On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 04:00, Brian Fraser wrote:
> Please people. I urge you all to kindly fuck off.
>
> This is getting ridiculous. You are arguing about *tone*. Who gives a flying
> fuck about tone if the post has substance? Are we fucking two? Are our egos
> so fragile that we can't take the
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 10:27:07AM -0400, galeb abu-ali wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to parse a table containing information about genes in a
> bacterial chromosome. Below is a sample for one gene, and there's about 4500
> such blocks in a file:
> My problem is that some genes have 2 entries for
On 04/19/2011 06:26 PM, David Christensen wrote:
So, my next question is "has the complaint resolution process broken
down?".
It's been 4 days, and I haven't seen a reply to the above question.
Right now, per the "Beginning Perl mailing list FAQ" (FAQ) [1], this
list is controlled by "modera
Hi Shawn,
moving to advoc...@perl.org .
On Saturday 23 Apr 2011 20:24:36 Shawn H Corey wrote:
> On 11-04-23 12:53 PM, Casey West wrote:
> > 1. What did you do that doesn’t fit with our Lincoln School Rules? (Be
> > specific and start with “I”)
>
> Wow. The very first thing they have to think ab
On 11-04-23 06:37 PM, Shlomi Fish wrote:
Emotions are nature's guidelines, and should not be repressed, and one should
not feel guilty for feeling anything (Sermon on the Mount/etc. put aside),
including not a desire for murder and mayhem. But acting based on these
emotions by words or deed may n
Hi Brian, and all.
please read my entire response.
On Saturday 23 Apr 2011 22:22:13 Brian Fraser wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Marilyn Sander, Ken Armstrong <
>
> marilyn-san...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > The F-bomb is totally unnecessary. Such language is for teenagers who do
> > no
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Tiago Hori wrote:
> Hi List,
>
> Howdy. Before we start, instead of using wikipedia, if you can get your
hands on it and feel like spending a few hours of your time, Perl Best
Practices[0] is the way to go.
However, assuming that you are a busy person (and, as a
On 11-04-23 02:54 PM, galeb abu-ali wrote:
using it do homework is considered abuse
Using to do your homework is abuse. Using it to ask about homework
isn't. The difference how much effort you put in. Some guidelines:
1. Say it's homework from the start.
2. Include the code you have so
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Marilyn Sander, Ken Armstrong <
marilyn-san...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> The F-bomb is totally unnecessary. Such language is for teenagers who do
> not yet know how to communicate displeasure effectively. Please grow up.
> Personally, I am finding this discussion f
The F-bomb is totally unnecessary. Such language is for teenagers who do not
yet know how to communicate displeasure effectively. Please grow up.
Personally, I am finding this discussion fascinating. I have often wondered
why the "academics" at IBM would attack each other's presentations. It
Please people. I urge you all to kindly fuck off.
This is getting ridiculous. You are arguing about *tone*. Who gives a flying
fuck about tone if the post has substance? Are we fucking two? Are our egos
so fragile that we can't take the slightest of drubbings? So sensitive that
a word in caps can
On Apr 23, 2011, at 10:01 AM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
> I just realized something this morning. If
> you go back through my "complaints" here and elsewhere over the years,
> they fall into two main camps:
>
> (1) people who answer someone else's question badly
[snip]
This raises for me the q
i guess the sensitivity stemmed from reading random snippets from the thread
'the nature of this list' and how using it do homework is considered abuse,
so i didn't want to fall in that category.
thanks again
galeb
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 12:51 PM, shawn wilson wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Lali wrote:
> I agree with you Ray, a nasty reply in a professional setting is easy to
> fend with a well thought answer.
> Having a thick skin, what does that mean? I don't run and throw myself on
> my bed and cry my eyes out when I get a harsh critique, but I w
I agree with you Ray, a nasty reply in a professional setting is easy to
fend with a well thought answer.
Having a thick skin, what does that mean? I don't run and throw myself on
my bed and cry my eyes out when I get a harsh critique, but I won't lie and
say that it sits well on me right away, af
> I'm not so sure about this last point. Yes there are nasty scientific
> reviewers out there and the reason is that no one is taught to review
> nicely. They've learned to be nasty either from someone they worked
> with or, more than likely, from someone else who was nasty to them.
>
> Perhaps p
On 04/23/2011 01:14 AM, Sean Murphy wrote:
> The perl script must generate plain 4.0 HTML code. I am not after any
bells or whistles on the page.
> The Perl script will go through all my Audio books and group them by
author, title and titles in series. I was thinking a table with the
below colu
Hi Tiago,
On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 01:33, Tiago Hori wrote:
> No, no one needs to be rude, but some people are. Some people are rude
> because they are just stupid, but I like to believe that the vast majority
> is rude because they don't know any better. I just think that getting a
> thick skin
On Apr 23, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Shlomi Fish wrote:
> Just a note about etymology and semantics - it is a good idea to *never*
> accuse someone of "lying" in an online forum.
But Shlomi - don't you remember? He "#ifdef'd" it out! :-p
Hee hee.
Chap
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On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 23:53, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
>> "Raymond" == Raymond Wan writes:
>
> Raymond> But, if both sides (both of you) and third-party-people like me still
> Raymond> remember exchanges on this list from almost 2 years ago,
>
> I didn't remember it at all. I had to google
On 11-04-23 12:53 PM, Casey West wrote:
1. What did you do that doesn’t fit with our Lincoln School Rules? (Be
specific and start with “I”)
Wow. The very first thing they have to think about is their contempt
for the school authorities and not their victims' feelings. No wonder
why they tou
On Saturday 23 Apr 2011 17:53:30 Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
> > "Raymond" == Raymond Wan writes:
> Raymond> But, if both sides (both of you) and third-party-people like me
> still Raymond> remember exchanges on this list from almost 2 years ago,
>
> I didn't remember it at all. I had to googl
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Chap Harrison wrote:
> That's all just to say that, while the traditional sci/tech culture may
> still be rife with big shots and ass-hattery, it's worth summoning the guts
> to look straight into someone's eyes and quietly insist upon being treated
> with common
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 11:56 AM, galeb abu-ali wrote:
> BTW, it's not homework, It's supporting metadata for my research and I'm
> trying to parse it in a format that will be easier to lookup later.
>
it was a joke. i figured you were either a graduate student,
researcher, or hacking around wit
I met some stupid people and they're a not rude. In fact, they're often
nicer than most people with more brains.
>
> The problem is that some people see things that irritate them and decide to
> take out their angry and frustration on complete strangers. But there's no
> excuse for their beha
On 11-04-23 12:33 PM, Tiago Hori wrote:
Some people are rude
because they are just stupid, but I like to believe that the vast majority
is rude because they don't know any better.
I met some stupid people and they're a not rude. In fact, they're often
nicer than most people with more brains.
Tangential to the topic, but related to the "traditional" programming culture
some have described -- I've programmed professionally since 1978, although I
haven't come anywhere close to Randal's heights. In the early '90s I was a
developer at a DBMS vendor in Kendall Square, Cambridge, which wa
> People complain; it's the nature of the beast. But that doesn't mean they
> have to be rude about it. Calling someone stupid is rude. Calling their
> best efforts stupid is an indirect way of calling them stupid and if
> anything, even ruder. Generally, I just ignore the rudeness and if it
>
On 11-04-23 11:55 AM, Tiago Hori wrote:
And Lali, you better get a thick skin, because weather you like or not, in
science you going to get nastiness all of the time. I don think it is the
correct way to be, but it is the way it is. It will help you stay sane,
specially during your quals:)
One
thank you for the advice Shawn, I'll try what you suggest!
BTW, it's not homework, It's supporting metadata for my research and I'm
trying to parse it in a format that will be easier to lookup later.
thanks again
galeb
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 11:10 AM, shawn wilson wrote:
> now, here's a homew
Hi All,
Initially I didn't feel like getting into this discussion, because for
starters I am really new here, but I also I generally don't like to argue. I
spend most of days arguing about some or other scientific question, that
when I come home I just want to learn perl. I think one think that I
On 11-04-23 11:01 AM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
Therefore, you're safe from "my wrath" since you'd only be asking
questions and not trying to answer someone else.
Anyone can be safe from your wrath simply by setting up a message filter
that deletes your posts unread.
Or they can unsubsrcibe
now, here's a homework question!! :)
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 10:27 AM, galeb abu-ali wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to parse a table containing information about genes in a
> bacterial chromosome. Below is a sample for one gene, and there's about 4500
> such blocks in a file:
>
> gene_oid Locus T
> "Lali" == Lali writes:
Lali> So please, think about this before answering harshly and being
Lali> patronizing. Not all of us Perl Beginners have a programming
Lali> background, anyone who is a beginner to programming needs to learn
Lali> how to read the documentation/manuals first, someti
> "Raymond" == Raymond Wan writes:
Raymond> But, if both sides (both of you) and third-party-people like me still
Raymond> remember exchanges on this list from almost 2 years ago,
I didn't remember it at all. I had to google for my name and his. I
*moved on*. I had to re-read the entire t
Hi,
I'm trying to parse a table containing information about genes in a
bacterial chromosome. Below is a sample for one gene, and there's about 4500
such blocks in a file:
gene_oidLocus TagSourceCluster InformationGene
InformationE-value
642745051SeSA_B0001COG_category
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 13:39:15 -0400, Casey West wrote:
> Shortly after this mailing list got off the ground I wrote an article
> trying to instigate the Perl community to embrace the idea of a safe
> place for newcomers, both to Perl and programming. It's been pointed out
> I was marginally hyperbol
Hi,
I'm trying to parse a table containing information about genes in a
bacterial chromosome. Below is a sample for several genes, and there's about
4500 such blocks in a file:
gene_oidLocus TagSourceCluster InformationGene
InformationE-value
642745051SeSA_B0001COG_cat
Hi,
I'm trying to parse a table containing information about genes in a
bacterial chromosome. Below is a sample for several genes, and there's about
4500 such blocks in a file:
gene_oidLocus TagSourceCluster InformationGene
InformationE-value
642745051SeSA_B0001COG_cat
Hi,
I'm trying to parse a table containing information about genes in a
bacterial chromosome. Below is a sample for several genes, and there's about
4500 such blocks in a file:
gene_oidLocus TagSourceCluster InformationGene
InformationE-value
642745051SeSA_B0001COG_cat
On 11-04-23 09:09 AM, Peter Scott wrote:
It was very popular at one time although
templating makes a lot more sense.
It was very popular at one time because at one time, it was all there
was. :)
--
Just my 0.0002 million dollars worth,
Shawn
Confusion is the first step of understand
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 18:14:46 +1000, Sean Murphy wrote:
>
> I am starting another project and I wish to know the best method of
> creating a web page via Perl. I don't want to reinvent the wheel here.
> The perl script must generate plain 4.0 HTML code. I am not after any
> bells or whistles on the
>>
>> I have been trying to follow one of code indentation guidelines from
>> wikipedia, but I have some questions that I can find answers, I would
>> appreciate if someone could help me or point me towards better references.
>>
> No. The indentation should provide a visual clue as to where the loo
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 04:56, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
>> "Ian" == Ian writes:
> Ian> Randal is arrogant and a bully and is the reason why I moved on from this
> Ian> list years ago.
>
> You misunderstood something I said, which when taken in context, was
> appropriate then and I would say
Hi Sean,
On Saturday 23 Apr 2011 11:14:46 Sean Murphy wrote:
> Hi all.
>
> I am starting another project and I wish to know the best method of
> creating a web page via Perl. I don't want to reinvent the wheel here. The
> perl script must generate plain 4.0 HTML code. I am not after any bells or
Hi all.
I am starting another project and I wish to know the best method of creating a
web page via Perl. I don't want to reinvent the wheel here. The perl script
must generate plain 4.0 HTML code. I am not after any bells or whistles on the
page.
The Perl script will go through all my Audio b
HI Shlomi
Thanks, I will check that out. Peace on the land is the best of course. :-)
Sean
- Original Message -
From: "Shlomi Fish"
To:
Cc: "Sean Murphy"
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: Scripting problem when launching links using mech.
Hi Sean,
On Saturday
Hi everyone,
Sorry for intruding, I just recently joined this list, I have the list
messages usually skip my inbox, but somehow this one did not and as I read,
I thought I might contribute by letting you know that there are different
"types" of Perl beginners, particularly one type, which is not a
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