Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-19 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Ken == Ken Peng short...@gmail.com writes: Ken I am 33 years old. Can I have the chance to see Perl6's official Ken stable release in my left life? Nobody is ever going to declare Perl 6 Stable. It will always be a moving target. Much the same way that Perl 5 is now... Perl 5 is hardly

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-18 Thread Dr.Ruud
On 2011-12-15 22:53, Rajeev Prasad wrote: perl5 is dead end OTOH, Perl 5 is alive and kicking. See for example: http://www.perlfoundation.org/ http://www.slideshare.net/Tim.Bunce/perl-myths-200909 http://www.booking.com/hotel/de/sonnenhof-perl.en.html -- Ruud -- To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-16 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 13:53:33 -0800 (PST) Rajeev Prasad rp.ne...@yahoo.com wrote: Shlomi, all of you said is correct, but some may get a negative impression. it shows as if perl5 and perl 6 are two very different. Well, Perl 5 and Perl 6 are very different. perl5 is dead end (coz perl 6 is

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-16 Thread Ken Peng
2011/12/16 Shlomi Fish shlo...@shlomifish.org: Regarding Perl 6 - you are right that it is taking a long time, and that some people feel its implementations are not usable for them yet. But it doesn't mean you can't use Perl 5 now, or that Perl 6 will never be ready, or that it didn't have a

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-16 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Rob, On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 22:27:22 + Rob Dixon rob.di...@gmx.com wrote: Decades of programming in many languages have convinced me that Perl excels in every aspect. But I have to agree with Rajeev that Perl 6 has become a theory and needs evidence of practical application. In my mind

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-16 Thread Mark Tiesman
Not to sound like I am complaining, but aren't we kind of wondering of my original topic? I will say that Perl 5 is the road I need to travel since it is heavily utilized here at the University. I do want to say thank you for the links at other reading recommendations that have been provided

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-16 Thread John SJ Anderson
On Friday, December 16, 2011 at 09:18 , Mark Tiesman wrote: Not to sound like I am complaining, but aren't we kind of wondering of my original topic? I will say that Perl 5 is the road I need to travel since it is heavily utilized here at the University. Yes, parts of the discussion have

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-16 Thread Chankey Pathak
On Dec 16, 3:39 pm, short...@gmail.com (Ken Peng) wrote: 2011/12/16 Shlomi Fish shlo...@shlomifish.org: Regarding Perl 6 - you are right that it is taking a long time, and that some people feel its implementations are not usable for them yet. But it doesn't mean you can't use Perl 5

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-16 Thread David Christensen
On 12/15/2011 11:34 PM, abhay vyas wrote: Which book of Llama are you reading? pls tell me the title as I am also on same page as yors. I read Learning Perl, 2 e., ~13 years ago. David -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org For additional commands, e-mail:

Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-15 Thread Mark Tiesman
Hi all. I recently started a job that at some point is going to require me knowing and using Perl. I am pretty green as a programmer and need some guidance to get me going on the right foot. Currently I am reading the Llama book to grease the skids so to speak, but am looking for addition

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-15 Thread Mark Tiesman
Thanks Frank. I'll add that to my list. ;-) Mark On 12/15/2011 10:07 AM, frank cui wrote: I found Perl By Example 4th Edition book pretty help, and you may want to give a look on that one. Frank On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Mark Tiesman mark.ties...@doit.wisc.edu

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-15 Thread Torqued
perlmonks.org is a good site. regards... /om On Dec 15, 2011, at 21:38, Mark Tiesman mark.ties...@doit.wisc.edu wrote: Thanks Frank. I'll add that to my list. ;-) Mark On 12/15/2011 10:07 AM, frank cui wrote: I found Perl By Example 4th Edition book pretty help, and you may want to

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-15 Thread Tessio Fechine
2011/12/15 Mark Tiesman mark.ties...@doit.wisc.edu Hi all. I recently started a job that at some point is going to require me knowing and using Perl. I am pretty green as a programmer and need some guidance to get me going on the right foot. Currently I am reading the Llama book to grease

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-15 Thread Agnello George
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Mark Tiesman mark.ties...@doit.wisc.edu wrote: Hi all.  I recently started a job that at some point is going to require me knowing and using Perl.  I am pretty green as a programmer and need some guidance to get me going on the right foot.  Currently I am

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-15 Thread Chankey Pathak
*http://www.chankeypathak.com/search/label/Perl* * * On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Agnello George agnello.dso...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Mark Tiesman mark.ties...@doit.wisc.edu wrote: Hi all. I recently started a job that at some point is going to require me

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-15 Thread Dr.Ruud
On 2011-12-15 16:54, Mark Tiesman wrote: general information on learning to program and Perl How to Perl: http://learn.perl.org/ which mentions: http://learn.perl.org/books/ -- Ruud -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-15 Thread Madrigal, Juan A
The Learning Perl by Randal Schwartz Video series is a nice intro: http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920014430.do Along with the companion book Learning Perl (6ed): http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920018452.do Lynda.com also offers Perl 5 Essential Training by Bill Weinman:

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-15 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Mark, On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 09:54:17 -0600 Mark Tiesman mark.ties...@doit.wisc.edu wrote: Hi all. I recently started a job that at some point is going to require me knowing and using Perl. I am pretty green as a programmer and need some guidance to get me going on the right foot.

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-15 Thread Mark Tiesman
shlomi, Thanks for the link. I have bookmarked:-) On 12/15/2011 11:56 AM, Shlomi Fish wrote: Hi Mark, On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 09:54:17 -0600 Mark Tiesmanmark.ties...@doit.wisc.edu wrote: Hi all. I recently started a job that at some point is going to require me knowing and using Perl. I am

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-15 Thread Brendan Gilroy
Here are some new videos: http://szabgab.com/perl_tutorial.html The standard stuff is here: http://www.perl.org/learn.html http://learn.perl.org/first_steps/http://learn.perl.org/ And this is what I was originally looking for: http://perl-tutorial.org/ It's a curated list of tutorials. On

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-15 Thread Rajeev Prasad
Mark, i think with an eye on future, you should start by reading Rakudo etc. i.e. perl6 From: Mark Tiesman mark.ties...@doit.wisc.edu To: beginners@perl.org Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 9:54 AM Subject: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User Hi all

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-15 Thread Brendan
, you should start by reading Rakudo etc. i.e. perl6 From: Mark Tiesman mark.ties...@doit.wisc.edu To: beginners@perl.org Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 9:54 AM Subject: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User Hi all.  I recently started a job that at some

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-15 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Rajeev, On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 15:20:24 -0500 Brendan bdgil...@gmail.com wrote: How quickly Perl 6 knowledge can be put to good use probably depends on where you work. I don't think there are many businesses where they are looking to convert their Perl 5 code to Perl 6 in the immediate

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-15 Thread Rajeev Prasad
15, 2011 2:45 PM Subject: Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User Hi Rajeev, On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 15:20:24 -0500 Brendan bdgil...@gmail.com wrote: How quickly Perl 6 knowledge can be put to good use probably depends on where you work. I don't think there are many businesses where

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-15 Thread Anneli Cuss
for a New Programmer/Perl User Hi Rajeev, On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 15:20:24 -0500 Brendan bdgil...@gmail.com wrote: How quickly Perl 6 knowledge can be put to good use probably depends on where you work. I don't think there are many businesses where they are looking to convert their Perl 5 code

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-15 Thread Rob Dixon
Decades of programming in many languages have convinced me that Perl excels in every aspect. But I have to agree with Rajeev that Perl 6 has become a theory and needs evidence of practical application. In my mind there is no doubt of the benefits in Perl, but what place does it have? And what are

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-15 Thread Madrigal, Juan A
Have you looked at these MVC perl frameworks and alternatives to CGI? They definitely go beyond a simple print. mojolicious http://mojolicio.us/ dancer http://perldancer.org/ Catalyst http://www.catalystframework.org/ Web.pm https://github.com/masak/web psgi http://plackperl.org/

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-15 Thread David Christensen
On 12/15/2011 07:54 AM, Mark Tiesman wrote: Hi all. I recently started a job that at some point is going to require me knowing and using Perl. I am pretty green as a programmer and need some guidance to get me going on the right foot. Currently I am reading the Llama book to grease the skids so