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Thanks to everyone - I got lots of great feedback to my query about
alternate breeds to berners. Remember, these were PPO's who called me
initially wanting a berner, but who ultimately changed their minds due
to berner size, shedding. PPO primary considerations were 1)sweet
temperament and 2)fai
Our puppy was 43 lbs. just shy of 6 months by a week.
The vet said she looks great!
She has long legs, so I'm assuming she'll eventually
fill out.
So, don't worry about the weight-some dogs can just be
smaller! :) At least for now!
Nicole & Willow
Kelly,
Does she have a chip implanted in her? In case a shelter
or rescue does find her . . .
I'm so sorry-this is a horrific thing-I had to fight
back tears when I saw her picture.
Nicole & Willow
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In a message dated 10/10/2002 8:53:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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> This was fun. I think I may do a little write up on this and include it
> in my PPO packet.
>
Great idea, Mary. Maybe it could even be on the BMDCA site somewhere as
"alternative" breeds???
So, did the vet ever figure out what her problem was??
--Tracey
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:07:42 AM
To: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List
Subject: best news about Tatiana
Thanks to everyone for support and advice. We
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I have a young dog who has a strong tendency to pace and was wondering if
anyone had any information to share. This is a 16 month old neutered male
rescue who had OFA prelims of good hips and clear elbows. Charm is small and
very light boned but actually fairly well proportioned, weighing only
>From: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: BERNER-L digest 4060
>Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 00:01:10 CDT
>
>
> BERNER-L Digest 4060
>
>Topics covered in this issue include:
>
> 1) Tatiana
Hi Eileen
We feed only necks, wings or backs, not legs and thighs. The support bones
"legs & thighs" could splinter as I have been told.
I'm by no means an expert on this subject but this is what works for us and
many other, many others.
In the past we have used support bones but we took a large
In a message dated 10/10/2002 10:29:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> Just getting a Berner puppy and not sure what to feed for treats. I am
> intrested in recipes for homemade healthy treats and cookies.
Baby carrots, frozen green beans, apples, bannana pieces, C
Well go figure, my computer truncated my digests and I didn't get the announcement.
But according to this follow up post I guess excitement is in order and of course no
matter
how much we have raised a big huge humungous thank you goes to Joye for all her
hard work and help and also tremendous th
Hi everyone,
It could help the malignant histiocytosis study at
Fred Hutchinson's if we could provide them with our
best guess as to what % of berners greater than or
equal to 10 years old pass away due to malignant
histiocytosis. I realize that necropsies are normally
not done on older dogs so
I was wondering if anyone had some advice to cure my male of jumping up.
Now don't picture a 110 lb male trying to bowl me over, he does it with
great finesse.he litterally stands up in front of me and then gently
places his paws on my chest. I frequently take him to the local nursing
home an
Just remember that a dog cannot do a "bad" behavior if he is also doing a
"good" behavior -- so teach him to always sit nicely in front of you and
reward him incessantly for doing this. Usually what we try to do to get the
dog off is reinforcing -- like pushing or other "playing" behaviors -- so
y
In a message dated 10/10/02 12:11:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Just remember that a dog cannot do a "bad" behavior if he is also doing a
"good" behavior -- >>
So what would y'all consider THE PAW!!! LOL - Do all Berners use their paw as
one of the main sources of
My guys do "the paw" too, but somewhat half-heartedly. The real strength
of the paw move is when Cessi is in bed for her nighttime cuddle, when she
uses the paw to redirect attention to her if one of us stops petting
her. She generally reserves her strength for "the nose". She is a master
a
Is this a Berner quirk or is just my dog neurotic? Maggie like to bring a
toy out with her every time she goes out to pee. She holds it in her mouth
until she is done and then she drops it outside & comes back in without it.
Next pee time, another toy. If she can't find a toy handy to the door,
I knew a golden who liked to take his "man" (stuffed gingerbread man type
toy) for walks with him. He'd pick up his man, and hold it for the entire
walk.
This was surefire way to have quick walks in inclement weather! If it was
raining or bitterly cold, we'd encourage Bowie to bring the man
Does anybody have a really short, one or two line ready response to this one?
My dogs travel with me a fair bit - to work, away on weekends etc, and we
meet a lot of people. It seems that as soon as people learn that one is
male, and one is female, this is the first question they ask, and when
That does sound cute!
Maggie also likes to carry things on a walk, but she prefers plastic soda
bottles that she finds discarded on the road. One day she carried a
half-full 16oz bottle of Diet Coke. It was pretty heavy for a puppy. She
carried it by the cover end, so it looked like she was dr
"Are you going to breed them"?
"No"
"Why not?"
"Because that is not my intention at the moment"
or
"Because we don't know if he will be fit for breeding yet"
or
"Because you can't breed a spayed female"
Or you combine them: "Because we don't know if the male is fit for breeding
yet and bre
Hello Everyone,
I've been a negligent Mom and have not sent in Tanners
AKC registration, mostly because I am stumped on a
name.
His kennel is Ryans Pride,
Dam: Ryan's Pride The Real Thing (Call name Kola)
Sire: Sugarfoots Never Say Die (Call name Jolly)
(It would be so much easier if they gave y
good ideas - also, as hard as it may be, as soon as your dog is
diagnosed with histio, PLEASE contact Heidi Parker at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
so she may get you a blood collection kit. This is so important to not
only our beloved berners but also to other breeds suffering from this
fatal disease.
Or, h
Hi all,
Last night I took Chance to the first session of the
Attention & Focus class. In many ways it is what I
expected, and definitely feel that this class will
help both of us in creating a foundation for further
training in multiple disciplines. However
I am a bit uneasy about the exer
Hi All,
I cannot gain access to the older archives for some reason, the new link
works fine, but it is farther back. Anyway, I am looking for the post with
the link about the puppymill raid in Alaska & lack of animal welfare
laws/organizations.
Could someone please send it to me?
Thank you very
Hi Folks-
Here's some pictures that I took at the Watchung Club's show this last
Sunday.
http://www.hotdogfx.com/watchung/gallery1.htm
I feel a bit bad about just leaving everybody without proper captions. Any
help with names would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Hugh
Rose wrote:
>now am more concerned about giving raw chicken to a
>dog with health issues ie challenged immune system. Probably okay with a
>vigorously healthy dog but not so good for one with challenges.
Agree here completely with Rose, especially as we do have salmonella problem
here with chic
In a message dated 10/10/2002 3:06:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> Last night I took Chance to the first session of the
> Attention & Focus class. In many ways it is what I
> expected, and definitely feel that this class will
> help both of us in creating a found
Jackie,
I've collected all the back digest posts of recipes for treats and
things, see the archive page of www.berner.org - and have fun!
Pat Long (& Luther)
Berwyn PA
Lucy & Yogi wrote:
>Does anybody have a really short, one or two line ready response to this one?
"Because the only reason to breed two dogs is to contribute to the future
strength of the breed, and I and my breeder don't feel these dogs wll do
that."
For those that still want more of an answer
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Mary-
I missed this discussion, but I have to comment on several of the breeds
that you have on your list. I would NEVER call a Portuguese Water Dog
mellow...brilliant, energetic, sweet, but not mellow. The PWD owners
that we know (and train with) call them perpetual motion machines! Ditto
fo
Why not use this as a mini-ed oportunity?
"Perhaps, once I have all the results back from hip & elbow xrays, eye
screening, vWd blood tests, and heart checks. And if my male turns out to
be of breeding quality, as very few do."
Either they will be interested and ask more questions, or they will
Coleen,
Using the 2000 Health Survey data, out of 45 deaths from histio, the age
range was:
45 months - 125 months, or not quite 4 years to just over 10
years.
The percentage of dogs over the age of 10 years was 13.9%
Looking at just the ones that were autopsied, there were 29 histio
dea
I e-mailed the person from MA who wrote to the list regarding MA Berners.
The post got returned to me as undeliverable.
When you get your Berner, you are very fortunate to have a most wonderful
veterinarian in your town, Walpole, someone who is VERY familiar with the
health problems of the bre
Hello my name is Catrina and I'm presently dogless.
I was once owned by a sweet Rottweiler names Sassy. I
lost her 4 years ago and haven't owned a dog since.
I'm going to be purchasing a new puppy soon in my
future. I'm hoping to have a set plan in dec/jan.
I've always been curious about burnes
hehehe I found this interesting. I have two "pawers" (both girls) and
one "leaner" (male). My pup didn't take too long at all to learn how to
"paw" to communicate. Both my girls are "crutch" dogs too but my boy is much
more polite and a heavy lean is more his style or a full body hug for
speci
***sounds like MY house!
RRuth
> Is this a Berner quirk or is just my dog neurotic? Maggie like to bring a
toy out with her every time she goes out to pee. She holds it in her mouth
until she is done and then she drops it outside & comes back in without it.
Next pee time, another toy. If she
Hi All,
In the Tibetan Mastiff world, we call it the "paw that defleshes". It's a very
effective technique, especially when you're wearing shorts. You generally give them
what they want (usually food) rather than have your flesh removed. My TM girl, Taku,
is very good at it but my berner has ye
When Greta was young I was in an obedience class where they taught the
"controlled" play and the pinching technique too, which I wasn't comfortable
with either. I just didn't do it.
Greta does not need to be "forced" to play, but yes, she could be
distracted, she was very young at the time. She
Dear Emma and "Tatiana"
Have been following your story of Tatiana and how she is coming along.
Just want you know that both of you are in our berner-prayers and that Tatiana has a
healthy recovery and soon she will be out running and playing with all this behind her!
Please keep us updated on he
If anyone is into Stephen Huneck's work, his new book Dog Chapel, is out. I
just received in the mail the signed copy I ordered when I was in his store
in Woodstock, VT this Summer. It tells the story of how he came to build the
Dog Chapel in St. Johnsbury and then has a selection of his work
Hi Barb,
I've only been assisting at family dog training classes since summer
started and I'm no expert on training, but I can certainly understand
your concerns. I hope that Vilma's post helped to clarify some things
for you. As for the jumping up -- one of things that behaviorists may
recommen
I am wondring what berner owners feel is the highest quality dog food to
raise a berner on. I am not looking for an advertisement only what BMD
owners feed their own pooches. Also, do berner owners feel giving a dog
(pup) raw meat is healthier than cooked meat?
Is it safe to give a puppy raw hide
I just got a new magazine in the mail today, called Fido Friendly. It's
a great resource for you happy travelers out there! The magazine comes
out 4 times a year, and 20% of the subscription price will go to the
Light One Candle fund, by special arrangement. It's $18 a year in the
US, $23 in Cana
Cindy Beckman wrote:
>I've asked for no pre-meds with a relatively calm dog, and have
>always requested inhalant anesthesia
For those of you who are requesting no premeds and ONLY inhalant
anesthesia (ie no induction agent using an injectable anesthetic) you
should know that MANY animals will go
>From your description, I would not take my dog to this class and trainer.
Just because disobedience is not optional (sit stay) does NOT mean you may
not use a clicker. Personally, my dogs which were positive rewards trained
are *more* attentive, consistent, and obedient than dogs I trained prior
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From: "Terry & Cathy Bering" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I am wondring what berner owners feel is the highest quality dog food to
> raise a berner on.
I feed high quality table scraps (rice, potato, meat chunks, bread, pasta,
etc) and either California Natural or Innova.
To cure the "stand up and get in your face" syndrome, I withdraw all
attention the minute the dog is preparing to stand up. Cross your arms,
close your body language, and turn your back firmly on him. Have him sit
politely before you will greet him or pet him or whatever.
Eileen Morgan
The Mare's
Hi, all. Been reading with interest, but not writing for awhile. I am
looking for advice from folks on the list as you have all been extremely
helpful to me in the past.
I know that our food choices for our pampered furry pals is often a
heatedly discussed item. but I am looking for advice f
In a message dated 10/10/2002 6:41:17 PM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< I would suggest that you request your vet to use Propofal (hope I spelled
that correctly) for induction and then maintained on the inhalant of choice.
>>
Great Advice Angela. For most dogs, Propofal
"I'm not going to add to the surplus dog problem for shelters and I don't
have a waiting list started for puppies I breed."
Pamela and Dick
with Allegra, (the Beautiful!)
and Monty (the mischievous pup)
> Does anybody have a really short, one or two line ready response to this
one?
It does seem
Vilma,
I have a 15 month old female that paces with the slightest pull on the
leash. As long as I can keep her beside me she will gait...so for now I use
a prong collar to keep her under control..no flames please. There is a good
article in The Whole Dog Journal 11/01 on pacing and the anatomica
I live in Baltimore, MD, but have traveled in Pennsylvania a lot
and don't mind driving if I could help for any part of the route.
I do have a question, though - there appear to be two Milfords -
one near Scranton and one near Chambersburg. But, I assume
it is the one near Scranton, since you sai
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I always enjoy these "fun" posts ! Hannah does the paw thing all the time
:-). But she adds a few tricks of her own. The PAW is genetic , as is the
LEAN and the SIT on the feet. I'm thinking the "between the legs" is maybe
genetic , also :-). Hannah does ALL of them at the same time !! She crawls
Oh Deb ... I soo feel for you ... my bitch did the same thing, no change of
food ... super cute, but super stinky ...
I called it more than "clear the room" gas ... but "clear the HOUSE" gas ...
Unfortunately, she stopped on her own ... I wonder (in retrospect) if it was
part of changing hor
i am looking to buy a copy of nose to nose, but i can't seem to find the
source. does anyone know it?
thanks
andrea
I need help. Smokey has become really afraid of new
people in the house. He is fine with people outside
(on the street, the dog park, etc.) but inside the
house he is simply terrified of new people. He likes
women better than man, and often just eyes women
suspiciously for awhile and eventually
I'm not sure I'd classify the PWD as mellow. The AKC breed description calls
them "spirited" and the PWD club of America says this on their website:
<> and
<>
I have a good friend who has 2 PWD's- her 8 year old is pretty mellow but
the 2 year old is h**l on wheels.
D. Pearson and the Ber
on 10/10/02 11:22 PM, Radha Iyengar at <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> g wrote:
He
> doesn't try to bite the people he is afraid of, just
> barks and and backs away.
> HELP ME PLEASE!
>
> Thank you,
> Radha and Smokey (I'm friendly, I swear)
I don't know if this will be helpful because Bob's problem was o
Hi all,
<>
Angela makes a very good point here. The "excitement phase" can be quite
violent and dangerous for dog and humans, especially with the large dogs.
After having worked several years ago for a vet that only "masked down" with
no benefit of premeds, I personally will *always* make s
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>should know that MANY animals will go through what we call an
>"excitement phase" that can last 5 minutes or so while the dog is
>"masked down" to a good plane of anesthesia.>>
>
>Angela makes a very good point here. The "e
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