Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SBS Nightly Fedora 15 - Albums list?

2011-07-30 Thread mozzie
Still dies unexpectedly though. -- mozzie mozzie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48599 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89193

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Could we get a 7.6.1 firmware directory ?

2011-07-30 Thread erland
bonze;645278 Wrote: > Do we need a 7.7 also ?? > Eventually I'd suspect that will be needed, for LMS beta testers, but since LMS is alpha and it's added functionality is related to UPnP interface and not player interface, it's probably acceptable that users that want to try LMS and connect a Squ

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] What's happening with LMS?

2011-07-30 Thread erland
nicolas75;645460 Wrote: > I do agree with almost everything you wrote in previous posts. > I actually do agree with most of what you said in this post. :-) nicolas75;645460 Wrote: > > - Logitech is not a software company and cannot achieve a competitive > SBS allowing them to go on building s

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6.1 not available for Debian?

2011-07-30 Thread aubuti
Yeah, the debian repo for SBS isn't up to date. You can go to http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/ to download the 7.6.1 deb package. Then install via: sudo dpkg --install [path and filename to deb file] It's a couple more steps, but it works. One thing I recommend is stopping your current

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] What's happening with LMS?

2011-07-30 Thread sebp
nicolas75;645460 Wrote: > - I see no other option than making squeezeboxes hardware something like > "network sound cards" and providing drivers so that much better software > than SBS can allow people to use them. Logitech has already gone that road: 'Wireless DJ Music System' (http://www.logite

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] What's happening with LMS?

2011-07-30 Thread JackOfAll
nicolas75;645460 Wrote: > > I consider being a member of the community, and probably owned > squeezeboxes before people who have probably never serioulsy used other > software if they think SBS performs well, and probably don't know a lot > about serious software development if they don't unders

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SBS 7.6.1 for FreeBSD

2011-07-30 Thread NeverSimple
Just a quick thanks, I'm admittedly a new FreeBSD user (started with 8) but i've build a few boxes being used for different tasks, and never had any real problems (very nice OS!). But trying to get Squeezeboxserver to play nice with FreeBSD was beyond me. I've tried different SBS versions (7.5.3

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] What's happening with LMS?

2011-07-30 Thread nicolas75
erland;645380 Wrote: > Matches my main point pretty well, because that system doesn't require a > computer to be powered on to listen to music :-) > > I agree that: > - All Squeezeboxes beside the Touch is uninteresting for mass market > users because they require a computer > - The Touch is uni

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] playlist display broken?

2011-07-30 Thread pallfreeman
Some of my playlists are built by scripts basically listing the contents of several album directories. I've only recently become interested in cover art, and didn't realise my scripts were including the artwork files in the playlists. This is from clicking the "cover" field in the first of the i

[SlimDevices: Beta] playlist display broken?

2011-07-30 Thread pallfreeman
In another thread I commented that I'd taken a peek at my playlists. Ugh! Some examples are attached. These are from 7.6.1, screenshots via Safari OSX. Where are my album and artist names? I have showartist set. Something else need setting? If artwork is to be displayed, it should be spaced out

[SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6.1 not available for Debian?

2011-07-30 Thread Mitch Harding
I am running 7.6.0 on Ubuntu. I have the following line defined in my sources.list file: deb http://debian.slimdevices.com testing main No errors are being generated when I try to update using apt, but no updates are being reported for squeezeboxserver. I can see on the nightly download page tha

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] What's happening with LMS?

2011-07-30 Thread sebp
erland;645380 Wrote: > The Pure-Fi system on the other hand: > - Works without a computer > - Is integrated with the mass market music library application (iTunes) > since you sync the iPod with iTunes > - It has a reasonably low price to make it interesting for mass market > users - won't wake m

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6.1 scanning -- one happy camper

2011-07-30 Thread prob
7.6.1 also working well for me. I had almost given up on squeeze and was resigned to using my boom as a radio. -- prob prob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30998 View this thread: http://forums.s

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] What's happening with LMS?

2011-07-30 Thread erland
aubuti;645371 Wrote: > We can debate what constitutes "mass market", but I would say that > neither the current SB line or even a Touch that is fully capable of > running without an external is destined for the mass market. I was just > at my massage therapist, and here's the mass-market Logitech

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Google TV box costs Logitech $34m

2011-07-30 Thread erland
pallfreeman;645357 Wrote: > > Serious outsiders would do well to consider the complexity of the > current code, and perhaps contribute rather than fork. > I know there are people who have considered to fork but so far everyone has realized that it's too complex to just fork because you want to

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] What's happening with LMS?

2011-07-30 Thread aubuti
We can debate what constitutes "mass market", but I would say that neither the current SB line or even a Touch that is fully capable of running without an external is destined for the mass market. I was just at my massage therapist, and here's the mass-market Logitech music device she was using: h

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] What's happening with LMS?

2011-07-30 Thread erland
nicolas75;645272 Wrote: > > So if this is easier for you let's find another word for this "thing", > and keep your definition, and provide them another word so they can > express their feelings in a way which may be understood ... > For a customer > - SBS = software I manually download and insta

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Google TV box costs Logitech $34m

2011-07-30 Thread pallfreeman
Yebbut codecs aren't part of "slimserver". It's all open source. Serious outsiders would do well to consider the complexity of the current code, and perhaps contribute rather than fork. -- pallfreeman I will always cherish the initial misconceptions I had about you. -

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Google TV box costs Logitech $34m

2011-07-30 Thread bluegaspode
To my knowledge most code is free (GPL) but some codecs are closed source (and of course all integration stuff to streaming services, which is hosted on mysb.com). There is no dedicated license about all the images, so they must be considered Logitechs property as well. -- bluegaspode Did you

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] What's happening with LMS?

2011-07-30 Thread pallfreeman
SliMP3? I'm still using two of them! And the reason I bought them: open source server, runs on everything and not written in Java. -- pallfreeman I will always cherish the initial misconceptions I had about you. pallfreem

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Google TV box costs Logitech $34m

2011-07-30 Thread jmschnur
How much of slimserver open source now? -- jmschnur Joel jmschnur's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89161 ___

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6.1 scanning -- one happy camper

2011-07-30 Thread pallfreeman
slate;645296 Wrote: > Do you recall how long a full scan took on 7.5?! > Afraid not. I've been running 7.6 for a long time, with few problems. I remember not being terribly impressed with it, though. :) > > And are your library all FLAC? > No, all fairly high bitrate MP3. I'd love to be an a

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Google TV box costs Logitech $34m

2011-07-30 Thread DaveWr
+100 the writing's on the wall -- DaveWr DaveWr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9331 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89161 _

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6.1 scanning -- one happy camper

2011-07-30 Thread pallfreeman
browellm;645293 Wrote: > Wow, that looks extraordinarily good. Obviously that's a combination of > things, but what is the overriding factor that is making your scans so > fast? > > I have a 67,000 track library on a HP EX490 running WHS v1. A full > rescan takes about 2hrs 15m on 7.6.0 > > Wo

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] What's happening with LMS?

2011-07-30 Thread sebp
bits;645284 Wrote: > nicolas75, you would do well to sit back and consider that Squeezebox > has been doing fine before you decided that you need to explain that > everything up to this point was done entirely wrong. Exactly. The fun part being that I've discovered the SB's ancestor *because* it

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6.1 scanning -- one happy camper

2011-07-30 Thread pallfreeman
mario21;645288 Wrote: > Did you check if all your playlists are complete? On my side, the > scanner found my playlists but they are incomplete (songs are missing). > I'm using 7.6.1 v. 32935 i386-readynas.bin with iTunes integration. We > almost reach our goal. Thank you Andy! The playlists look

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Run two SBS instances on same machine

2011-07-30 Thread gharris999
Philip Meyer;645201 Wrote: > I thought this would be trivial. > > I have allocated two IP addresses to a server, and configured each SBS > to pick up a different IP address in the preferences: > > e.g: server.prefs contains: > bindAddress: 192.168.1.3 > > However, when I run SBS 7.6: > > [11:

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6.1 scanning -- one happy camper

2011-07-30 Thread slate
pallfreeman;645267 Wrote: > System: dual-core E5500 @2.8GHz, 2G RAM, local OCZ Vertex 30G SSD, music > collection via Jumbo 1Gbs, NFS mounted ZFS. > > Looks pretty good to me. Do you recall how long a full scan took on 7.5?! -- slate Main: Receiver (Audiocom) -> Beresford Caiman+ (Gatorize

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6.1 scanning -- one happy camper

2011-07-30 Thread browellm
pallfreeman;645267 Wrote: > System: dual-core E5500 @2.8GHz, 2G RAM, local OCZ Vertex 30G SSD, music > collection via Jumbo 1Gbs, NFS mounted ZFS. > > Looks pretty good to me. Wow, that looks extraordinarily good. Obviously that's a combination of things, but what is the overriding factor tha

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6.1 scanning -- one happy camper

2011-07-30 Thread mario21
Did you check if all your playlists are complete? On my side, the scanner found my playlists but they are incomplete (songs are missed). I'm using 7.6.1 v. 32935 i386-readynas.bin with iTunes integration. We almost reach our goal. Thank you Andy! -- mario21 -

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] What's happening with LMS?

2011-07-30 Thread bits
nicolas75;645262 Wrote: > > All code may be in SBS, meaning that everything for every platform is > in it ? > All right : big development mistake leading to severe performance > drawbacks, explaining why no SBS version on any platform can really > compare with efficient popular softwares. > S

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Could we get a 7.6.1 firmware directory ?

2011-07-30 Thread bonze
Do we need a 7.7 also ?? -- bonze TranquilPC T2-WHS-A3 - Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.0 3 x wireless SB3, and 2x Touch bonze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6150 View this thread: http://f

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] What's happening with LMS?

2011-07-30 Thread nicolas75
read my previous post ... -- nicolas75 nicolas75's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15823 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89143

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] What's happening with LMS?

2011-07-30 Thread aubuti
nicolas75;645262 Wrote: > Still looking for Touch interface in Windows SBS version. > Can I use it with a Windows 7 tactile screen ? > If it is in it and I cannot use it, it is a mistake. > Squeezeplay = SBS ? yes or no ? Squeezeplay != SBS One is the client, the other is the server. The Touch, R

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] What's happening with LMS?

2011-07-30 Thread nicolas75
epoch1970;645256 Wrote: > There is no freaking TinySBS code. Same lines of code as plain SBS, > compiled for ARM. Is that clear enough? Is it clear enough that it is technical developer definition of current implementation, compiling SBS for ARM, letting user interface apart ? Is it clear enoug

[SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6.1 scanning -- one happy camper

2011-07-30 Thread pallfreeman
System: dual-core E5500 @2.8GHz, 2G RAM, local OCZ Vertex 30G SSD, music collection via Jumbo 1Gbs, NFS mounted ZFS. Looks pretty good to me. +---+ |Filename: scandet.jpg | |Download: h

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] What's happening with LMS?

2011-07-30 Thread nicolas75
aubuti;645255 Wrote: > The slimproto language that SBs use has been "opened up" for years, and > someone with the programming skills and interest could write a SB > frontend using that software. Someone already has written a foobar2k > package for controlling Squeezeboxes, and I believe something

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] What's happening with LMS?

2011-07-30 Thread nicolas75
Still looking for Touch interface in Windows SBS version. Can I use the it with a Windows 7 tactile screen ? All code may be in SBS, meaning that everything for every platform is in it ? All right : big development mistake leading to severe performance drawbacks, explaining why no SBS version on

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] What's happening with LMS?

2011-07-30 Thread pallfreeman
nicolas75;645250 Wrote: > There is a TinySBS, definition : existing software developped to run on > Touch Hardware Standalone. > It doesn't have all the features of full SBS. > The fact that TinySBS is "currently implemented" as a stripped version > of SBS, "somewhat" mixed with Squeezeplay (it i

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] What's happening with LMS?

2011-07-30 Thread epoch1970
nicolas75;645250 Wrote: > There is a TinySBS, it is the SBS version for Touch hardware platform > and specific processor. > It doesn't have all the features of full SBS. > The fact that TinySBS (definition : existing software developped to run > on Touch Hardware standalone) is currently implemen

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] What's happening with LMS?

2011-07-30 Thread aubuti
nicolas75;645217 Wrote: > The fact is a lot of people use popular software like foobar, > mediamonkey, Jriver. > If you support those software adding a simple plugin, all this already > existing market opens up, without forcing users to choose one specific > software, namely SBS, which most of th

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] What's happening with LMS?

2011-07-30 Thread nicolas75
sebp;645247 Wrote: > Can't you understand there's no such thing as TinySBS? > It's plain full Squeezebox Server. There is a TinySBS, it is the SBS version for Touch hardware platform. It doesn't have all the features of full SBS. The fact that TinySBS (definition : existing software developped t

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] What's happening with LMS?

2011-07-30 Thread sebp
nicolas75;645217 Wrote: > TinySBS is developped for Logitech internal proprietary hardware. > This means you can forget almost any crossplatform development. Can't you understand there's no such thing as TinySBS? It's plain full Squeezebox Server. -- sebp 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/se

[SlimDevices: Beta] players powering on when SBS restarted

2011-07-30 Thread pallfreeman
I upgraded my production server to the latest nightly 7.6.1 (r32935) by stopping SBS, installing the new software and restarting. Wandering around the house I noticed that all three SB Radio's had switched themselves on and were sitting showing "Nothing" on the now playing screen. Likewise one SB

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6.1 scanning problems

2011-07-30 Thread testmatch
Well I've made a little progress, but it's still not working - this time with 7.6.1 r32935. I've deleted the path to the old artwork folder in case that was a problem, and also removed the tick to use iTunes. After a clear and rescan all goes well until the artwork scan starts - and immediately

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] What's happening with LMS?

2011-07-30 Thread Jokke
nicolas75;645205 Wrote: > - The solution without computer is a TinySBS (no SBS, no LMS). Ok the > hardware is not powerful enough, but if you forget about SBS/LMS, you > can tune it better. You will have to forget geek hype and a lot of > plugins, but the team cannot work on everything. A good th

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] What's happening with LMS?

2011-07-30 Thread Jokke
nicolas75;645217 Wrote: > TinySBS is developped for Logitech internal proprietary hardware. > This means you can forget almost any crossplatform development. > QA and tests are WAY EASIER and cheaper > And yet it doesn't work. -- Jokke

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] What's happening with LMS?

2011-07-30 Thread nicolas75
erland;645213 Wrote: > The issue with your suggestion, is that when I announce it to my friends > they are going to say things like: > - But my computer is in another room, why should I have to go to > another room to change what's playing ? > - But I don't own a stationary computer, I only have

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] What's happening with LMS?

2011-07-30 Thread erland
nicolas75;645205 Wrote: > You would obviously need a PC to control Squeezeboxes with popular > software plugins. > What I mean is that > > - developping SBS LMS for Linux (not speaking about Touch hardware, > which is TinySBS, not SBS) seems pointless to me if Windows/OSX is not > acceptable, an

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] What's happening with LMS?

2011-07-30 Thread nicolas75
erland;645199 Wrote: > Could you please describe how I would control the system with any of > these nice applications when the computer is powered OFF ? > Because as I understand, we both agree that most people would prefer to > have the computer powered off when listening to music in their livin

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] What's happening with LMS?

2011-07-30 Thread erland
nicolas75;645195 Wrote: > > The point is to control Squeezeboxes without any SBS or LMS, but with > Foobar, MediaMonkey, Jriver, etc ... plugins > Could you please describe how I would control the system with any of these nice applications when the computer is powered OFF ? Because as I underst

[SlimDevices: Beta] Run two SBS instances on same machine

2011-07-30 Thread Phil Meyer
I thought this would be trivial. I have allocated two IP addresses to a server, and configured each SBS to pick up a different IP address in the preferences: e.g: server.prefs contains: bindAddress: 192.168.1.3 However, when I run SBS 7.6: [11:16:13.5784] main::init (498) UDP init... [11:16:13

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] What's happening with LMS?

2011-07-30 Thread nicolas75
erland;644961 Wrote: > > ... > The normal non geek users, will instead: > - Attach a USB drive directly to the Squeezebox Touch (which is running > Linux by the way) and accept the poor performance and reliability. > Or > - Run a Windows machine and continue being annoyed that they have to > wai

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SBS 7.6 Priority: Fix the scanning problems

2011-07-30 Thread Kuben72
erland;645184 Wrote: > There aren't any formal test plan but I think the best we can do at the > moment is to either: > - Look though the issues mentioned in the forum and try to reproduce > them and make sure to register a bug report for them if there isn't > already one registered. > or > - Loo

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6.1 scanning problems

2011-07-30 Thread testmatch
Thanks for the reply. I mean a totally empty library. The 20322 scanned files that were found during the scan were no longer available after it finished, and the library stats reported zero files. In addition there was no Playlists entry on the web UI. I'm determined to get this running over

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] What's happening with LMS?

2011-07-30 Thread nicolas75
bits;644962 Wrote: > I run a NAS because its on 24/7 and idles at about 14w usage. > My PC idles at about 75w usage. > > I dont know who pays your power bill, but I pay mine and that is why I > use a NAS over a Windows box. > > I have 2 desktops and 2 laptops in the house using Windows. That is

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SBS 7.6 Priority: Fix the scanning problems

2011-07-30 Thread erland
Kuben72;645179 Wrote: > > So if I have to do any further testing I need a plan. What do you want > me to test? And how? > In short is there a testplan we can follow, so we can get this bird of > the ground? > There aren't any formal test plan but I think the best we can do at the moment is to e

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SBS 7.6 Priority: Fix the scanning problems

2011-07-30 Thread Kuben72
erland;645136 Wrote: > I finally got tired of repeating the same things over and over again, so > I've created a wiki page with known problems and troubleshooting > guidelines which we can refer people to, I announced it in the > "Squeezebox Server" section here: > http://forums.slimdevices.com/s

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] finding artwork during new/changed scan?

2011-07-30 Thread frank1969
JJZolx;642278 Wrote: > > Squeezebox Server 7.6 > - does NOT find newly added cover/folder.jpg file > - does NOT find newly added embedded artwork > Just did some tests and found out something new which might help the developers to find the bug - maybe someone could check if he experiences the

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Could we get a 7.6.1 firmware directory ?

2011-07-30 Thread erland
rolski;645174 Wrote: > You don't mean the nightlies do you ? 7.6.1 is already showing-up there > :- > http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=7.6 > I know, but it's missing firmware: http://update.slimdevices.com/update/firmware/ The result is that the system won't find any firmware and

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.6.1 scanning problems

2011-07-30 Thread rolski
Do you mean no files at all present after the scan, or just (iTunes) playlists ? -- rolski rolski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23776 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Could we get a 7.6.1 firmware directory ?

2011-07-30 Thread rolski
You don't mean the nightlies do you ? 7.6.1 is already showing-up there :- http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=7.6 -- rolski rolski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23776 View this thre