How do you handle the modification time stamps ? Some prefer to preserve
them to not muck up the new music list ( which really should hinge on
when added to the dB or creation time ).
If you are browsing with iPeng you may have to flush its own cache with
enough new and changed scan's
the git html preview is often endlessly loading for me and never shows
?
I usually sneak peaks at the commits , even if it's aimed at devs the
text is intelligible enough for non coding humans to read :) and code is
commented to if you get curious enough
Local artwork works randomly and often not at all ? Meaning endless
spinny that covers the page . sometimes it works if i reload the page
and go back to the album again a couple of times .
I even seem the web-UI shift player and go into the amazon plugin the
background on some occasions ?
...And a complete rescan fixes everything ? as usual now why is that
always so :)
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Yes , the now playing playlist is disappearing from the top down ,it
keeps the 3 last played songs ?
Cue up a bunch of albums and start playing . I think the pl should be of
some size before you see this .
Using my boom .
Can this be an interaction with the smartmix plugin ? I started of with
mherger wrote:
Can this be an interaction with the smartmix plugin ? I started of
with
Yes. If you've enabled the never stop the music option, then it'll
start
doing its magic once you're down to three tracks in your queue. And part
of its actions is removing tracks from the
mherger wrote:
:) he he , i just delete the whole pl and start over instead ,
appearently i's magic is going on the background even if all the
tracks
it added are deleted
That's correct. You'd have to stop it from doing its things using the
SmartMix menu. But as you'll start playing
Wirrunna wrote:
After changing the Title of a few albums during a recent pedantic tag
attack I ran a New and Changed scan and to my surprise the artwork
moved with the new title in the now lightning fast New Music display.
Only reference I can find is -Make sure /imageproxy is absolute in
Some QD testing .
WEB UI 50 items per page .
server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux (dual core atom
something 1Gb of ram )
BMF my music instantly pulls up the approximate 40 base folders .
Clicks one of those, the largest one with 667 sub-folders loads in 15,7
seconds .
Going into an artist folder with many albums are still definitely
sluggish compared to using the database .
Bizarley enough iPeng seems faster than the web-UI ?
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A little background to better understand the trade-offs: our UIs work
in
pages. The web UI shouws (roughly) 50 items per page
this is a setting I've noticed that setting this very high like 500
slows things down , any thougth omn a reasonable use case ?
Sorry wrong setting on my language , dang :) . I thinks that was some
kind of iPad spelling .
But the number on items per page in the web-UI affects all menus
including BMF so if I set it to show 200 items per page will this make
BMF even slower ?
Now i checked it .
The old 7.6.1 betas are about 46.7Mb the 7.8 betas are 93Mb
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Just out of curiosity why is the rpm nightly double the size it used to
be ? I have no problems with that it still small .
Not that I mind if you suddenly decided to pack all fw with it or
something else :)
But just to let you know if this change is unintended ?
Btw do stuff all fw including
mherger wrote:
Rather than firmwares it's the increasing numbers of perl versions for
which we provide binaries (5.8/10/12/14). And yes, the latest is still
missing.
What do you compare with when you say double the size?
I'll check when i get home , some 7.6 version i think . I save a
frank1969 wrote:
Thanks Michael, I'll try.
Sry, for cross-posting, I thought it got something to do with the new
image cache. Hope You know I usually NOT do this kind of thing!
With risk of being completely silly , have you tried the usual horse
medicine to nuke the whole dB and start over
frank1969 wrote:
Thanks again, Michael, for I use only 5 3rd Party-pligins (3 by erland,
1 by Andy, 1 by You) I could identify the stopper - it really is the
UPnP/DNLA Media Interface by Andy...
After deactivating this only, -464 is starting in 2 minutes again!
+1 great find :) I've had
Do you use any of erlands plugins ?
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Linux, there are too many variants ! :) on CC.4.2 it could never
restart even from the terminal only start and stop worked not restart .
This was never actually solved ,but I upgraded away from it to ClearOS 6
beta.
Sligth diferences in startup scripts and how user and gruops are handled
may
castalla wrote:
No effect - I get a popup saying to restart - but the usual restart
popup never appears.
The main gui page has an info icon saying a restart is required. No way
to restart from the gui.
Do you see it if you go to the plugins page in settings I have to ge
there to see it
SlimChances wrote:
I have also had this problem since updating to 7.8
I use Ubuntu and from Terminal sudo service logitechmediaserver
restart seems to work
Aha maybe the squeezeboxserver or logitechmedia server user (what ever
is created on your platform ) dont have the rigths to do this
frank1969 wrote:
I know, this might be only a temporary thing and I didn't even recognize
what the changes are about exactly.
But just to see some NIGHTLY updates at is was brings back hope in using
my Squeezebox for a long time.
Thanks to Michael and Andy!
+1 And even a visit into the
7.8.0 - 1362073842
runs fine
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I there any version beyond 7.8.0 - 1353679004
the build server seesm to build the same version over again , should i
just archive this one and call it final ?
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And it works , no problems at all .
It also was a release candidate so maybe it includes time hirez .
In general you don't have to build perl code you can instal the missing
parts via yum or CPAN . And LMS tells wich parts it misses .
Finchy wrote:
I've updated the LMS firmware to 7.8 now, but it's not updating my Touch
(which is still 7.7.2-r9663). Should it auto update?
It will get an auto update eventually it is not included in the
installer LMS gets them from logitech server after a while , you can try
to restart
mherger wrote:
Any hint if it ever will be another rpm build ?
There will. The machine is suffering from a simple out-of-diskspace
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Thanks I be watching out for it .
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Any hint if it ever will be another rpm build ?
I won't expect them on nigthly basis anymore please consider doing them
if you backport something or change anything .
A random release now and then would by nice gesture , that would be
appreciated :)
What I mean is the last version of 7.8 beta .
The distinction between released versions and beta versions have lost
their meaning in the squeeezebox concept a long time ago ;) just pick
the version that works out for you .
..and OSX c'mon where is the rpm ?
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Latest nightly is windows only ?
http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/7.8/sc/520ec9c/
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JJZolx wrote:
Is there any good reason to be worrying about LMS nightlies any more?
Good question , I think andy checked in a very minor thing lately an
actual change yes .
I do not check this on daily basis as I used to do , we can have a
monthly release with some of the trickle down changes
batka wrote:
Hi!
I have a question about about the LMS version versus firmware version,
whether they should match or not?
I have a Touch, and installed the LMS 7.8.0 Nightly build:
Logitech Media Server Version: 7.8.0 - 1346674706 @ Tue Sep 4 04:23:05
MDT 2012
Then I have noticed,
https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/commits/public/7.8
https://github.com/Logitech/squeezeplay/commits/public/7.8
As you see ijn the dropdowns ,you can change and look at the 10 version
to (or any other version)
https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/blob/public/7.8/Changelog7.html
but that
I still think some limited biugfixing is possible if it coincide with
functionality that is shared with the UE version , or a service that is
common with UE and mysqueezebox.com .
Shared functionality may be parts of the scanner code, but not the sort
modes that won't be used on the UE interface
erland wrote:
I don't think anybody knows at the moment, not even those working within
Logitech.
From what I've understood they plan to do some LMS related stuff in the
near future now when UE Smart Radio has been released, the UE Smart
Radio is likely what has kept them busy, silent and
frank1969 wrote:
Could someone tell me, which nightly was the last one to require a
database update, so that it forced a initial re-scan?
I want to update my NAS but I want to avoid a rescan for it lasts some
days - and last time it failed for it ran out of memory (300k songs).
Thanks!
Will there be a 7.8 release at all ? including firmwares ?
And further will there ever be an 7.8 version of radio firmware ?
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I usually have the cover art showing when playing music .
But after the players has been off or unused for a while ,I always have
manually cycle trough the aviable np screens to get the one I want is
this really normal ?
I usually uses iPeng to select music ( or web-UI ) when Touch comes out
of
I've fond that having the web-UI showing 500 items ( instead of the
default 50 ) makes most menus slower
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atz6975 wrote:
manual synching seems to beat the purpose of synchronized play... are
you serious?
Those settings serves a purpose , if the delay is always and constantly
the same, you only have to adjust it once .
Also ther is cases when sync can't work without the help of this. For
example
I reported this bug http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17964 6
votes un assigned.
2012-05-20 ? And it's probably just a setting and takes someone 30
seconds to figure out ? tells a bit to much about how well read bugzilla
is nowadays by Logitech ?
Or they don't want beta testers for
The nightly build process seems to run smoothly for once , so new builds
are churned out now and then .
But what is it building ? As far as I can see for weeks/months on ends
it building 1337855496 all over ?
Is it that absolutely nothing has been developed in weeks/months ? Git
does not
..and now when the bugmail is up again ? should we bump bugs added
the last 4 weeks or so ?
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The obvuis Q have done a complete clear and rescan in a while ?
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+1 bump .
Do the devs getting any mail , the activity of responding to bug reports
have seized to exist to ? At the same time.
You of purse file at bug for it :P but as it is bugzilla itself that is
broken it migth be futile ?
This morning my boom sounded the backup alarm ? And failed to WOL my
server .
When I pressed power on the boom just minutes later it had no problem
waking the server ??
So WOL is working but for some reason boom did not do it before the
alarm ?
And another old issue reoccured, the server just
Updated the bug report it is *.tgz and *.bin files that are not possible
to download
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I've seen similar things over the years ( extra albums etc ).
I think some of it are pure bugs and some of it are down to the
mechanism used to detect changes .
And I think some cleaning up inmthe dB does not work properly either ?
I think LMS mainly uses the timestamp, but some of us including
JJZolx wrote:
Are you using iTunes integration?
Not me not using iTunes for music, but is not iTunes integration
completely broken re changed files at the moment ?
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frank1969 wrote:
@mherger:
I've made an amazing test concerning the bug:
I got an old album with 14 tracks in my database.
Now I got a new edition with NEW artwork and 30 tracks on it!
So I DELETED the old folder includinge the old album and added the WHOLE
NEW album...
After an
Upgraded just fine ?
So the rpm build is functional .
But where is a humanly readable change log ? Like the one we had before
with version numbers and links to the changed stuff ? Like the viewVC
repository listing ?
In this view
http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/7.8/sc/1ffe300/
All builds this new weird numeration ?
I install whatever it's called :) but would not rpm or yum ( Linux
package managers ) get very confused ?
Regarding revisions making me force installs ?
frank1969 wrote:
Not quite sure, Michael, I think it happened some weeks ago, might be
33930 oder 33932 - I'll try to test with an old copy when I do my next
update.
Description:
Before: MP3 files of one album in one folder - embedded artwork and
folder.jpg in folder = artwork is shown
factory reset was not needed this time it wol'ed the second time around
? but I sure do that if it continues .
this sugest that ip3k players are a bit slow in adapting to these
changes, may take severa conections disconects to a new server for it to
adapt .
This must a complete hit and miss if
mherger wrote:
Stalled again? I see new check-ins, but the nightly build doesn't
update...
http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=7.7 seems up to date to
me.
What are you missing?
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http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=7.8
is only on 33939 7.7.3 seems
There is no 7.8 there either :-/ thanks anyway
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mherger wrote:
If you're running some unsupported Linux/Unix platform, please use
the
buildme.sh
script located here:
http://svn.slimdevices.com/repos/slim/7.7/trunk/vendor/CPAN/
Ahm... did you follow that advice?
Alternatively you might run:
perl -MCPAN -e'install
yum install perl-Time-HiRes was it ,and possibly perl-CGI .
Now it runs, finds players and scans complete without errors .
Note to self: cp does not preserve timestamps by default :-/ new music
is now a mess
Mnyb's
Before I file a bug, is this known ?
Background , my NIC on my old mobo broke a year ago, so I haven t used
WOL for a while..
Now I'm fiddling with my new server, that has it wol working fine .
To be really sure I connected all my players to the new server and
played music for a while, the
Moving about in the fw menu I saw that boom listed the option to
connectnto both my servers ?
That is weird as the old one is off, this option disappeared after I had
a look at the current settings ?
My preparation for this was to have the old server off and players using
the new server so they
yum eh squeezecenter
http://repos.slimdevices.com/yum/squeezecenter/
You get squeezecenter .
I'm installing a new server, that has yum my old server only has rpm ?
Suppose i use the rpm anyway..
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I'm trying to replace my antique ClarkConnect4.2 with the new and Shiny
ClearOS6.1 rc1 but i get an error .
[root@nostromo /]# service squeezeboxserver start
Starting Squeezebox Server: The following modules failed to load:
Time::HiRes
***
NOTE:
If you're running some unsupported
I have the blank or black screen, screen saver on my Touches when they
are off
.
This works fine while the server is running, when Touch is off the
screens are
completely black .
But if just restart LMS the backligths come on .
it has been like this for a while 7.6 I'm now using latest 7.8
adventurous beta with new untested features, this can be
more unreliable (as for example yesterdays version 333903 that did not
work at all) not granatueed to actually work at all.
The aim is a future major release .
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We have all firmwares except for the radio ?
But radio is updated in 7.7.3 ?
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Yep 33905 is working fine here to, back to normal again :)
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Bedroom
Yes no squeezeplay aka Radio,controller,Touch .
Sometimes it is for a reason, but it can be down to how well things
that is supposed to be automatic really behaves ?
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haven't set up the nightly builds for the firmwares
yet :-). I'm not sure why we're holding back, but they should be there
soon.
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Thanks , we soon discover if you held back for a good reasons :)
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Yes indeed no playback at all on any of my Touch or Boom .
Being on the latest build 33903 .
So just don't install this yet..
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This also makes the alarm silent on my boom, the bell symbol is flashing
and all but no sound not even the backup server mp3 or the internal 3
tone close encounter.. sound
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They do have a few of them.
http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/7.8/sc/
And
http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/7.7/sc/
I usually save a copy of the nightly for the build I use I have back to
7.6.x
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Is it not a beta build of ready NAS next fw release available ? I think
that's how others have done it.
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Is it not a similar bug for the comment field in tags already ? There
might be a common issue ?
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issue would be to stop family members from stealing each
others players :)
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There seems to be some action in the 7.8 /jive repo so there is
tinkering done in the player fw :)
But there is no fw available yet ?
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and repeat ) But no rush we seems to be on a
variable update freq these days once or twice a week until somethings
substantial is committed then it can come a burst of daily updates (
like it used to be ).
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of some kind ( is not that what Sonos
get away with ) no fan room for one 3TB 3,5 drive small, made in
cheerful designed plastic maybe in white.
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for more ?
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Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4
Misc
the agenda here .
But for example why must a plugin like playlist manager exist ? this is
core functions .
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Here is the artwork issue
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17634 FYI
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As the dev resources are as limited as they are can't we just scrap the
video and picture support and upnp/dlna thing ?
To make this actually work properly you must commit even more resources
than you sunk into the whole project already ? This seems extremely
costly to me .
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to external tagging operations and also location how would an external
file track that ?
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Yep r9627 arrived today
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Kitchen: Touch + powered
There is a version file accompanying the bin file have a look at this
one maybe download that to.
There have been cases where version file and bin file have been
mismatched due to error on their servers ?
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The problem may not be local to you it is likely something at thier end
?
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Lets hope Andy or Michael sees this tread , it must have broken recently
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It failed to get you a new version of Touch firmware 7.7.2-9601 did it
eventually succeed 10 minutes later ?
Fab4 was some kind of internal project name for it just as radio is
baby and controller is jive .
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Just wait and see if you don't get the update in the next days it migth
be something to worry about.
I have never actually monitored the success rate of this and how many
times LMS usually harass the server about it .
But I have had 9601 for a while now ?
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favour .
So it's energy vs investing in a new drive and actually the energy used
to manufacture it ?
Wonder if a drive actually ever uses as much energy in it's whole life
than it took to build it ?
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it but usually recover and continue the scan , but
after adding enough new stuff IE domne several new and changed scans,
it just stdon't work anymoore .
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://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17881
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Kitchen: Touch
between 0740 and
now ?
Servfer upgrades ?
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Kitchen
But retrieving from my server seems stuck with the rpm ?
Must i clear something if aborted a rpm -Uvh
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Not possible to upgrade i get this:
Retrieving
http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/7.7/sc/33843/logitechmediaserver-7.7.2-0.1.33843.noarch.rpm
error: /var/tmp/rpm-xfer.3EdG8V: V3 DSA signature: BAD, key ID
4123722a
error: /var/tmp/rpm-xfer.3EdG8V cannot be installed
[root@hal ~]#
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signature: BAD, key ID
4123722a
error: /var/tmp/rpm-xfer.3EdG8V cannot be installed
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OK it fixed itself ?
I'm so happy that I work with normal electronics that behaves
deterministically .
Computer stuff sometimes breaks the laws of cause and effect
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It's ok now.
It fixed itself ?
I'm so happy that I work with normal electronics that behaves
deterministically .
Computer stuff sometimes breaks the laws of cause and effect
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- r33843 @ Thu Feb 16 03:11:18 MST
2012
Hostname: hal.home.lan
IP: 192.168.1.5
HTTP Port: 9000
OS: Red Hat - EN - utf8
Platform: i686-linux
Perl Version: 5.8.8 - i686-linux-thread-multi
Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.34_01 (sqlite 3.7.7.1)
Total Players Recognized: 3
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