Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Placement of AppGalery-menu on SBC

2009-09-13 Thread Phil Meyer
But they aren't extras. They are built-in functionality. They have always lived under Settings. ...which has always been ridiculous. As you say: they are functionality. Why should they be under Settings, you don't put functionality in Settings, no one does that. I'm not saying I

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Placement of AppGalery-menu on SBC

2009-09-13 Thread Phil Meyer
I like the idea of a Players menu, that would make it a lot easier to find player related functionality which you use often. It's effectively what Settings is - I think the suggestion is just a name change to that menu? ___ beta mailing list

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Placement of AppGalery-menu on SBC

2009-09-13 Thread bluegaspode
I don't like 2 'Apps' menus in the main menu as well. pippin;457220 Wrote: My Apps-App Gallery sounds like a good compromise to me. This sounds good to me too. Maybe even 'My Apps-Discover new Apps ...' I agree to anyone who thinks, that settings isn't the right place to put the menu,

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Placement of AppGalery-menu on SBC

2009-09-12 Thread pippin
Philip Meyer;457299 Wrote: The first thing I do when I get new software or consumer products is to go through Settings to see what is available I can assure you that you are kind of special in that respect. _I_ might do that after I tried the obvious stuff My mother, my GF, ... will never

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Placement of AppGalery-menu on SBC

2009-09-12 Thread Phil Meyer
I can assure you that you are kind of special in that respect. I doubt I am that special. Everyone I know that has ever bought a TV has gone into settings to configure brightness, contrast, etc. And Squeezebox Radio is aimed as a bedroom player, so people will want to access Alarms, which are

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Placement of AppGalery-menu on SBC

2009-09-12 Thread bhaagensen
pippin;457572 Wrote: I can assure you that you are kind of special in that respect. _I_ might do that after I tried the obvious stuff My mother, my GF, ... will never ever look into Settings. In conclusion; it depends on the user (type). But I'm convinced that having it at the root is *not*

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Placement of AppGalery-menu on SBC

2009-09-12 Thread pippin
Philip Meyer;457599 Wrote: I can assure you that you are kind of special in that respect. I doubt I am that special. Everyone I know that has ever bought a TV has gone into settings to configure brightness, contrast, etc. Well, I admit I have never bought a TV but I know quite a few

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Placement of AppGalery-menu on SBC

2009-09-12 Thread bhaagensen
pippin;457623 Wrote: I stick to my suggesting: put it in MyApps. The proposal does have the merit of avoiding crowding the Settings-page (more than it already is)... -- bhaagensen bhaagensen's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Placement of AppGalery-menu on SBC

2009-09-12 Thread Phil Meyer
And Squeezebox Radio is aimed as a bedroom player, so people will want to access Alarms, which are also under settings. Which is as absurd as putting the App Gallery there. So what things are within Settings that you consider incorrectly placed? Move them all to the Home menu? Maybe

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Placement of AppGalery-menu on SBC

2009-09-12 Thread Phil Meyer
I stick to my suggesting: put it in MyApps. The proposal does have the merit of avoiding crowding the Settings-page (more than it already is)... But then it wouldn't really be My Apps would it. Would require a name change. Ultimately, I don't think My Apps is all that great. Once an app is

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Placement of AppGalery-menu on SBC

2009-09-12 Thread pippin
Philip Meyer;457652 Wrote: And Squeezebox Radio is aimed as a bedroom player, so people will want to access Alarms, which are also under settings. Which is as absurd as putting the App Gallery there. So what things are within Settings that you consider incorrectly placed? Move them

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Placement of AppGalery-menu on SBC

2009-09-12 Thread Phil Meyer
Did I suggest to place anything in the home menu? No, actually you didn't, but I thought that's what you meant. Alarms and Shuffle belong under Extras and on the NowPlaying screen respectively. But they aren't extras. They are built-in functionality. They have always lived under

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Placement of AppGalery-menu on SBC

2009-09-12 Thread pippin
Philip Meyer;457668 Wrote: Did I suggest to place anything in the home menu? No, actually you didn't, but I thought that's what you meant. read again. I explicitly said the opposite Alarms and Shuffle belong under Extras and on the NowPlaying screen respectively. But they

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Placement of AppGalery-menu on SBC

2009-09-11 Thread Michael Herger
The Home menu should really just contain items which you access on daily basis and App Gallery isn't one of these things. While this is true, we have to expose it clearly to the user. If it was hidden somewhere deep in some settings menu, most users probably would never discover what

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Placement of AppGalery-menu on SBC

2009-09-11 Thread Phil Meyer
While this is true, we have to expose it clearly to the user. If it was hidden somewhere deep in some settings menu, most users probably would never discover what possibilities they had. We want the user to discover new apps. This allows us to have a clean main menu to start with and let

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Placement of AppGalery-menu on SBC

2009-09-11 Thread aubuti
Philip Meyer;457166 Wrote: If App Gallery is permanently on the Home menu, and it always has the full list of all apps, then a user may visit the list a couple of times, but then not revisit again, and maybe even work out how to disable it, and thus never find new apps in the future. But

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Placement of AppGalery-menu on SBC

2009-09-11 Thread pippin
My Apps-App Gallery sounds like a good compromise to me. If you don't know about apps and want to discover some, that's where you will look for them since it will be the only item there, won't it? -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Placement of AppGalery-menu on SBC

2009-09-11 Thread erland
Philip Meyer;457166 Wrote: If you want users to discover new apps, then have a New Apps gallery on the Home menu, ONLY when there are newer apps available. I kind of like the idea of having some kind of indication when there is a new or upgraded application. The only problem is how to

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Placement of AppGalery-menu on SBC

2009-09-11 Thread erland
mherger;457156 Wrote: It is possible to hide it by configuring the Home menu to not show it but then it gets completely hidden as there isn't any way to enabled it under My Apps or Setting. Might be worth a bug report/enhancement request. Would you mind?... Thanks!

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Placement of AppGalery-menu on SBC

2009-09-11 Thread Phil Meyer
I kind of like the idea of having some kind of indication when there is a new or upgraded application. The only problem is how to detect that something is new ? I was thinking not so much automatically removing something when it has been viewed, but when it has either been installed, or the

[SlimDevices: Beta] Placement of AppGalery-menu on SBC

2009-09-10 Thread bhaagensen
again a small detail. Shouldn't said menu be placed under Settings rather than at the root. It seems to me that its purpose is to allow for new apps to be installed, i.e. a setting-kind of thing. -- bhaagensen

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Placement of AppGalery-menu on SBC

2009-09-10 Thread erland
bhaagensen;457061 Wrote: again a small detail. Shouldn't said menu be placed under Settings rather than at the root. It seems to me that its purpose is to allow for new apps to be installed, i.e. a setting-kind of thing. I have to agree with this. The Home menu should really just contain