[SlimDevices: Beta] SlimServer 7 sync updates

2007-08-30 Thread Andy Grundman
I've just checked in Alan Young's patch to improve sync between all models of players. It should now be possible to keep players in perfect sync, even while playing long radio streams. A large amount of code was changed to make this happen, so some extra testing is in order. If you've ever

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SlimServer 7 sync updates

2008-01-27 Thread phill
Let me add my voice to those noting the synch improvements in 7.0. I had been running SlimServer (since 5.4.1) on XP pro since I bought my first Squeezebox in late 2004. Some months back I decided to give Linux a shot on this dedicated server. All it does is run SlimServer (now SqueezeCenter) a

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SlimServer 7 sync updates

2008-01-27 Thread awy
My guess is the problem is the SB1s. In terms of maintaining synchronization, this is the hardest case - SliMP3s are actually better. And I must admit that I have done less testing with SB1s that with other player types. I would certainly not rule out a logic bug in this case. Do you always have

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SlimServer 7 sync updates

2008-01-29 Thread phill
Just created bug report 6864 and uploaded an (enormous) log file. To quickly answer your questions above: Do you always have both SB1s in the sync-group when the problems arise? Yes. Do you know if your configuration is using WAV or MP3 in this case? No idea -- it's doing whatever the default

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SlimServer 7 sync updates

2008-02-05 Thread gorman
First of all: an *enormous* thank you to all the people that have made this possible. Just tried it yesterday and I have to say that I've been moving from bedroom to living room with a big grin on my face, back and forth, for the good part of an hour... :D (I'm a child at heart, I know). Now the

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SlimServer 7 sync updates

2008-02-05 Thread awy
gorman;265705 Wrote: > > 1) How good is synching with Squeezebox 1? I have an extra one that i > might install in another room but I'd do that only if it would synch > properly. All three SBs would be wired connection. > Mostly it is fine so long as you only have one SB1 (or SliMP3) in the syn

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SlimServer 7 sync updates

2008-02-05 Thread gorman
awy;265714 Wrote: > Do you mean debug or adjust? There are player preferences (under > Settings / Players / / Audio) for setting the start-up delay > and play offset. Adjustment to these take effect immediately (within a > second or two), so you can just adjust the play offset until it sounds >

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SlimServer 7 sync updates

2007-08-31 Thread kweller
Is the 7 beta at a fairly reliable stage? I usually shy away from beta releases as, to be honest, I just want to listen to my music rather than play with new features but I have two squeezeboxes constantly in synchronisation (well, I try to) and the broken synchronisation in 6.5.4/5 is driving me

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SlimServer 7 sync updates

2007-08-31 Thread Michael Herger
Kevin, > Is the 7 beta at a fairly reliable stage? When it comes to core functionality, I'd say yes. There's still some work in progress, though, which may touch you or not: plugin API (if you want to run 3rd party plugins), the new skin (you can always use the now "Classic" skin), SQN integra

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SlimServer 7 sync updates

2007-08-31 Thread kweller
>> Is the 7 beta at a fairly reliable stage?[/color] > When it comes to core functionality, I'd say yes. There's still > some work in progress, though, which may touch you or not: > plugin API (if you want to run 3rd party plugins) Thanks for your prompt response Michael and I'm sorry to come ba

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SlimServer 7 sync updates

2007-08-31 Thread Michael Herger
> Thanks for your prompt response Michael and I'm sorry to come back with > another question. The only plug-ins I use are Audioscrobbler, > MusicInfoSCR and Random Mix. Are these also affected? RandomMix is a stock plugin - no problem. AudioScrobble and MIS are 3rd party. I do have a version for

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SlimServer 7 sync updates

2007-08-31 Thread max . spicer
Andy Grundman;224092 Wrote: > I've just checked in Alan Young's patch to improve sync between all > models of players. This is excellent news - I'll give it a go pronto. Could I ask what happens now when you sync to a player that is already playing? Does it still cause that player to restart

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SlimServer 7 sync updates

2007-08-31 Thread Andy Grundman
On Aug 31, 2007, at 7:00 AM, max.spicer wrote: > > Andy Grundman;224092 Wrote: >> I've just checked in Alan Young's patch to improve sync between all >> models of players. > > This is excellent news - I'll give it a go pronto. Could I ask what > happens now when you sync to a player that is alre

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SlimServer 7 sync updates

2007-08-31 Thread Stuart Hickinbottom
The CVS version of AudioScrobbler at SourceForge supports SS7. There's no direct download link to a packaged release, though, so it's to be considered a work in progress I think (like SS itself). Rest assured that Lazy Search works, too. I'm sure it was just a typing error that caused you to omit

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SlimServer 7 sync updates

2007-08-31 Thread Michael Herger
> Actually, isn't it still an Alpha? :-) "What's in a name? That which we call a rose By any other name would smell as sweet." Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/beta

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SlimServer 7 sync updates

2007-08-31 Thread plympton
kweller;224125 Wrote: > Is the 7 beta at a fairly reliable stage? > Kevin Actually, isn't it still an Alpha? :-) (it seems pretty usuable for an Alpha, though) -Dan -- plympton plympton's Profile: http://forums.slimde

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SlimServer 7 sync updates

2007-09-04 Thread awy
max.spicer;224150 Wrote: > This is excellent news - I'll give it a go pronto. Could I ask what > happens now when you sync to a player that is already playing? Does it > still cause that player to restart the current track or can it now join > in half way through? > > Max There is some discus

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SlimServer 7 sync updates

2007-09-04 Thread Cruzan
I started running 7.0 last week. I have 3 nodes to sync (2 SB's and a Softsqueeze.) All three are audible at the same time from some spots in the house. I have been syncing Pandora, mostly. So far, mostly good. Individual songs will go out of sync on the softsqueeze but subsequent songs will sync

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SlimServer 7 sync updates

2007-09-04 Thread awy
I guess that you do not yet have the sync changes for SoftSqueeze, as they have not been checked-in yet, so it will be getting resync-instructions that it does not act on. Also, my own measurments suggest that PC sound cards can drift at around 1ms/s, whereas an SB3 seems to manage 1ms/minute, or

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SlimServer 7 sync updates

2007-09-04 Thread awy
Cruzan;225046 Wrote: > I started running 7.0 last week. I have 3 nodes to sync (2 SB's and a > Softsqueeze.) Are those original SBs or SB2/3s? -- awy awy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7480 V

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SlimServer 7 sync updates

2007-09-04 Thread max . spicer
awy;225038 Wrote: > Of course, I am also interested in feedback on how well it works. So far so good. My SB3 is in a room which often suffers from poor wireless reception. I was listening to the SB3 and my Transporter synced together the other day and suddenly the SB3's buffer ran out (due to t

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SlimServer 7 sync updates

2007-09-04 Thread SadGamerGeek
max.spicer;225081 Wrote: > > Mid-track join would be a fantastic extra though - people often get > confused when their music suddenly restarts because someone in another > part of the house has just turned on a player. > I'd just like to add my voice to that. I use AlienBBC for Radio "Listen a

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SlimServer 7 sync updates

2007-09-04 Thread Cruzan
awy;225059 Wrote: > Are those original SBs or SB2/3s? They are SB3's. -- Cruzan Cruzan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=380

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SlimServer 7 sync updates

2007-09-05 Thread awy
Cruzan;225046 Wrote: > > So far, mostly good. Individual songs will go out of sync on the > softsqueeze but subsequent songs will sync again. The biggest problem > is that occasional songs are skipped completely - all the nodes will go > silent for a song and then restart the next. (This is true

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SlimServer 7 sync updates

2007-09-05 Thread Cruzan
awy;225181 Wrote: > Can you provide any more detail? Does everything go quite for > (approximately) the duration of the skipped track, or for some other > period? Is anything to be seen on the SB3 displays ('waiting to sync', > 'rebuffering', ...)? You could turn on info-level logging for > 'play

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SlimServer 7 sync updates

2007-09-06 Thread oreillymj
I'd love the FW82 and synch changes to get pushed back into the 6.5.5 release. Without seeming ungrateful, it's what I plan to remain on for some time. 7.0 seems to have been in development for quite a while so most of the useful fixes ported back into 6.5.x While 7.0 might be more useful for b

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SlimServer 7 sync updates

2007-09-06 Thread andyg
No, the sync fixes are only for 7.0. If you don't like the new skin (which is still being developed btw!) you can use /Classic. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thre

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SlimServer 7 sync updates

2007-09-07 Thread bradsjm
The new sync is great :) I used it yesterday and tried it on a combination that would normally not have worked well - one wired (ethernet) Squeezebox 3 and one SB3 on wireless. It kept them in sync both for playing individual music and also for streaming radio very well! I'll play more this weeke

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SlimServer 7 sync updates

2007-09-08 Thread Andy Grundman
On Sep 8, 2007, at 1:52 PM, Cruzan wrote: > > I have a new cosmetic bug - when syncing Pandora, if I start it up on > one sb and change the station on another, the original sb plays the > right songs but the display retains the original Pandora station. This > is repeatable. Thanks, good one. __

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SlimServer 7 sync updates

2007-09-10 Thread Hangleton
Cruzan;225046 Wrote: > The biggest problem is that occasional songs are skipped completely - > all the nodes will go silent for a song and then restart the next. I am seeing exactly this issue on SlimServer 6.5.4 with Softsqueeze 3.4.. That would seem to rule out the changes in SlimServer 7 as b

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SlimServer 7 sync updates

2007-09-25 Thread awy
The following preferences affect the operation of the synchronization algorithms (defaults in parenthesis): *syncPower* (0): Should turning the power of one player in a sync-group on or off effect the other players in the group? *syncVolume* (0): Should changing the volume of one player in a syn

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SlimServer 7 sync updates

2007-09-25 Thread awy
I am inclined to think that the defaults should be adjusted so that they work for most users most of the the time. This probably means increasing the syncBufferThreshold default to 10kB and the syncStartDelay to 250ms. These should be sufficient for most wireless environments, I guess. Feedback r

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SlimServer 7 sync updates

2007-10-15 Thread awy
I have just comitted a change to add setting of synchronization preferences via the Web-UI. I have also slightly edited the documentation post a couple of entries earlier in this thread to reflect the latest reality. Be warned, however, that if it is decided to change from using seconds to millis

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SlimServer 7 sync updates

2007-10-25 Thread awy
The sync preferences have now been changed to milliseconds. -- awy awy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7480 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38054 ___

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SlimServer 7 sync updates

2007-10-27 Thread mudlark
I've had a few problems setting this up (Me not you) however, Alien BBC now seems very stable and syncs fine over my wired LAN. This facility is the "must have" for me to buy extra SBs so I'm really pleased that it works. M. PS I am also really enjoying the default SqueezecentRE skin. -- mu

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SlimServer 7 sync updates

2007-11-15 Thread awy
There is a test version available on the wiki. See the thread at 39587. I have not had any recent feedback. -- awy awy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7480 View this thread: http://forums.slimdev

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SlimServer 7 sync updates

2007-11-15 Thread SlimDML
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: Kevin Weller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: beta@lists.slimdevices.com In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Awy wrote: > There is a test version available on the wiki. See the thread at > 39587. I have not had any recent feedback. Thanks. I've downloaded it and as soon as I've

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SlimServer 7 sync updates

2007-11-15 Thread kweller
IME the synchronisation of wired physical Squeezeboxes is spot on now and I'm really pleased about that. I suspect I'm pushing my luck but have the synchronisation patches been applied to Softsqueeze? It's not an easy configuration change for me to just try it as I need to re-run speaker wires s

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SlimServer 7 sync updates

2007-12-09 Thread peterw
awy;225038 Wrote: > There is some discussion of these issues at 203463. The > current situation is as before: no mid-track join and no gapless. I am > interested in views about priorities. I'd like to see mid-track joining -- including, if possible, joining on Internet Radio streams. Personally,