Re: [Bf-committers] The future of FBX and/or other formats in Blender

2016-02-12 Thread Owen Hogarth II
Would there be anyone against using the pixar USD format: http://graphics.pixar.com/usd/ After looking at it, it seems pretty robust, the format is open like what was said previously and best of all it looks like it can fit right on top of blender's in my opinion. So will this list continue to

Re: [Bf-committers] The future of FBX and/or other formats in Blender

2016-02-12 Thread Ton Roosendaal
Hi William, Your message arrived loud and clear! Of course we stick to keeping FBX IO to work, the discussion is mostly about: - How to keep it maintained well, should we limit the scope a bit (design issue) - Who could be found to work on it (we have a dev fund to support that) What you (and

Re: [Bf-committers] The future of FBX and/or other formats in Blender

2016-02-12 Thread Fabio Pesari
On 02/12/2016 09:42 AM, Owen Hogarth II wrote: > Would there be anyone against using the pixar USD format: > http://graphics.pixar.com/usd/ > > After looking at it, it seems pretty robust, the format is open like what > was said previously and best of all it looks like it can fit right on top >

Re: [Bf-committers] The future of FBX and/or other formats in Blender

2016-02-12 Thread Juan Linietsky
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 11:29 AM, William Culver wrote: > > I know the format sucks and we have to reverse it to the point it could > break tomorrow anyway. I think you greatly underestimate its necessity.. I > can point straight to more than 5 teenagers I know that

Re: [Bf-committers] The future of FBX and/or other formats in Blender

2016-02-12 Thread metalliandy
It would be a great start for sure, but other engines and clients/studios would have to follow suit too for the move to be successful. The problem is that the entire games industry is using FBX as the de facto interchange format, so even if we do get flawless Collada support for all 3 major

Re: [Bf-committers] The future of FBX and/or other formats in Blender

2016-02-12 Thread Ton Roosendaal
Hi all, Please let's end the thread now. This list is to help getting Blender developed, not to agree on everything in detail. Both FBX and COLLADA are being supported in Blender, nobody suggests to drop this. We are only interested in getting the best IO possible. We'll check on Juan's

[Bf-committers] Blender 2.77 Testbuild1 AHOY

2016-02-12 Thread Sergey Sharybin
Hi, The time has time to do 2.77 Testbuild 1. Information for platform maintainers: - Build from master branch, SHA 4b42a4908633989969f1f266c36c9cbca9fd9a99 - Use latest locales and addons revisions for this build Suggested name: blender-2.77-testbuild1- Notes: - Keep Cycles CUDA binaries

Re: [Bf-committers] The future of FBX and/or other formats in Blender

2016-02-12 Thread William Culver
I love you guys. I've spent 8 years invested in Blender with my company. I fight so hard as an advocate, all interns come to me with Maya/Max training and I make them learn Blender. I'm constantly on job sites and 99% of the time there I'm the only employer in the whole of the UK looking for

[Bf-committers] error building with mingw-cmake

2016-02-12 Thread Yousef Harfoush
git 4b42a4908633989969f1f266c36c9cbca9fd9a99 error: E:\code\blender\blender-patched\intern\cycles\util\util_path.cpp: In function 'std::string ccl::path_make_compatible(const string&)': E:\code\blender\blender-patched\intern\cycles\util\util_path.cpp:509:10: error: 'std::string' has no member

Re: [Bf-committers] error building with mingw-cmake

2016-02-12 Thread Sergey Sharybin
Hi. Seems i used c++0 feature which does not exist in your compiler. Will commit a fix soon (in the middle of other change atm, so wouldn't happen immediately). On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:25 PM, Yousef Harfoush wrote: > git 4b42a4908633989969f1f266c36c9cbca9fd9a99 > > error: >

Re: [Bf-committers] The future of FBX and/or other formats in Blender

2016-02-12 Thread Bastien Montagne
Hi all, Sorry for all the commotion, I really did not expect that when writing the original mail! I needed to vent some frustration about FBX, but I had no intention of dropping support. I’m still maintaining current FBX add-on, and will keep doing this. Further more, I’m obviously available

Re: [Bf-committers] error building with mingw-cmake

2016-02-12 Thread Sergey Sharybin
Committed fix, please try again! On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:32 PM, Sergey Sharybin wrote: > Hi. > > Seems i used c++0 feature which does not exist in your compiler. Will > commit a fix soon (in the middle of other change atm, so wouldn't happen > immediately). > > On Fri,

Re: [Bf-committers] The future of FBX and/or other formats in Blender

2016-02-12 Thread Brian Savery
> > > Right now I'm a bit scared by the binary blob they offer in the USD > homepage, but if they truly make it free like they promised, why not? > > How does it relate to COLLADA and to the other proposed alternatives > (like glTF)? Does it fit the main use case for FBX (videogames)? > > If I

Re: [Bf-committers] The future of FBX and/or other formats in Blender

2016-02-12 Thread Owen Hogarth II
@Brian That's definitely good news, I am sure there are more devs like you out there who could help get this done. I looked tat the opengl format but like @Juan said it's pretty opengl specific so would be pretty useless for things outside of opengl world. Does Ton or Campbell or anyone else have

Re: [Bf-committers] Proposal: include Python's distutils

2016-02-12 Thread Jens Vewrwiebe
Install script ? Simply remove the filter for distutils in the install patterns, python is ad hoc featurecomplete after c being compiled, just blender install does not take it over ;) Jens Am 12.02.2016 um 22:16 schrieb Xavier Thomas: > Hi, > > +1 for this on my side. It would simplify greatly

Re: [Bf-committers] Proposal: include Python's distutils

2016-02-12 Thread Xavier Thomas
Hi, +1 for this on my side. It would simplify greatly distributing some of the add-on I make to my clients by including a small install script. Here falling back to system python works even with minor version number mismatch. Maybe you suffer from a 32/64bit mismatch problem, you absolutely

Re: [Bf-committers] Proposal: include Python's distutils

2016-02-12 Thread Alex Fraser
On 13 Feb 2016 9:33 a.m., "Jens Vewrwiebe" wrote: > Install script ? I think Xavier was talking about running `pip`. > Simply remove the filter for distutils in the install patterns Yes, if I understand correctly that's all it would take: a one-line patch for Blender to