[bitcoin-dev] On The Drama

2022-05-01 Thread Jeremy Rubin via bitcoin-dev
Developers, I know that some of you may be interested in hearing my perspective on what happened and why. I still do not know exactly what happened and why. However, I can offer a brief explanation of what I perceived my main actions to be and the response to them: 1. I published and shared to

[bitcoin-dev] Working Towards Consensus

2022-05-01 Thread Jeremy Rubin via bitcoin-dev
Developers, There is much to say about the events of the last two weeks and the response to them. I've been searching for the right words to share here, but I think it best that short of a more thoughtful writeup I start with a timely small step with the below comments. First, let me be clear: I

Re: [bitcoin-dev] What to do when contentious soft fork activations are attempted

2022-05-01 Thread Billy Tetrud via bitcoin-dev
+1 alicexbt We of course want knowledgeable bitcoiners who aren't knowledgeable about a certain proposal to be skeptical. But what we don't want is for that natural skepticism-from-ignorance to be interpreted as opposition, or really a strong signal of any kind. Any thoughts from ignorance,

Re: [bitcoin-dev] What to do when contentious soft fork activations are attempted

2022-05-01 Thread Jorge Timón via bitcoin-dev
On Sun, May 1, 2022, 09:22 alicexbt via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > Hi Michael, > > Maybe the whole thing worked as designed. Some users identified what was > going on, well known Bitcoin educators such as Andreas Antonopoulos, Jimmy > Song etc brought additional

[bitcoin-dev] Password-protected wallet on Taproot

2022-05-01 Thread vjudeu via bitcoin-dev
It seems that Taproot allows us to protect each individual public key with a password. It could work in this way: we have some normal, Taproot-based public key, that is generated in a secure and random way, as it is today in Bitcoin Core wallet. Then, we can create another public key, just by

Re: [bitcoin-dev] ANYPREVOUT in place of CTV

2022-05-01 Thread Nadav Ivgi via bitcoin-dev
> via `sha_sequences` Since you cannot expect txid stability with >1 inputs either way[0], it should be sufficient to commit just to the current input's nSequence/scriptSig to get txid stability for single input transactions. I chatted with Jeremy about this and he appears to agree. Not

Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP proposal: Timelocked address fidelity bond for BIP39 seeds

2022-05-01 Thread ZmnSCPxj via bitcoin-dev
Good morning again Chris, I wonder if there would be an incentive to *rent* out a fidelity bond, i.e. I am interested in application A, you are interested in application B, and you rent my fidelity bond for application B. We can use a pay-for-signature protocol now that Taproot is available, so

Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP proposal: Timelocked address fidelity bond for BIP39 seeds

2022-05-01 Thread Chris Belcher via bitcoin-dev
Hello ZmnSCPxj, This is an intended feature. I'm thinking that the same fidelity bond can be used to running a JoinMarket maker as well as a Teleport (Coinswap) maker. I don't believe it's abusable. It would be a problem if the same fidelity bond is used by two makers in the _same_

Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP proposal: Timelocked address fidelity bond for BIP39 seeds

2022-05-01 Thread ZmnSCPxj via bitcoin-dev
Good morning Chris, Excellent BIP! >From a quick read-over, it seems to me that the fidelity bond does not commit >to any particular scheme or application. This means (as I understand it) that the same fidelity bond can be used to prove existence across multiple applications. I am uncertain

[bitcoin-dev] BIP proposal: Timelocked address fidelity bond for BIP39 seeds

2022-05-01 Thread Chris Belcher via bitcoin-dev
See https://gist.github.com/chris-belcher/7257763cedcc014de2cd4239857cd36e for the latest version of this BIP. BIP: TBD. Preferably a two-digit number to match the bip44, bip49, bip84, bip86 family of bips Layer: Applications Title: Derivation scheme for storing timelocked address

Re: [bitcoin-dev] What to do when contentious soft fork activations are attempted

2022-05-01 Thread alicexbt via bitcoin-dev
Hi Michael, > Maybe the whole thing worked as designed. Some users identified what was > going on, well known Bitcoin educators such as Andreas Antonopoulos, Jimmy > Song etc brought additional attention to the dangers, a URSF movement started > to gain momentum and those attempting a