Re: [bitcoin-dev] Speedy covenants (OP_CAT2)

2022-05-06 Thread ZmnSCPxj via bitcoin-dev
Good morning Jorge, > OP_CAT was removed. If I remember correctly, some speculated that perhaps it > was removed because it could allow covenants.I don't remember any technical > concern about the OP besides enabling covenants.Before it was a common > opinion that covenants shouldn't be

Re: [bitcoin-dev] What to do when contentious soft fork activations are attempted

2022-05-06 Thread Jorge Timón via bitcoin-dev
So, to be clear, you didn't design speedy trial "to make everyone unhappy" as Ryan claims, no? That's a really strange claim on his part. When the grace period for slower activation after lock in was added, I don't think it was added to make me or people like me who dislike that proposal unhappy.

[bitcoin-dev] Speedy covenants (OP_CAT2)

2022-05-06 Thread Jorge Timón via bitcoin-dev
OP_CAT was removed. If I remember correctly, some speculated that perhaps it was removed because it could allow covenants. I don't remember any technical concern about the OP besides enabling covenants. Before it was a common opinion that covenants shouldn't be enabled in bitcoin because, despite

Re: [bitcoin-dev] What to do when contentious soft fork activations are attempted

2022-05-06 Thread John Tromp via bitcoin-dev
On Fri, 6 May 2022 7:17PM Jorge Tim?n wrote > But let's not personally attack andreas for his opinions. > The only reason you don't like bip8 is because you're ignorant about it and > you haven't reviewed it enough. Can you see the irony in equating "clueless about BIP119" with a personal attack

Re: [bitcoin-dev] What to do when contentious soft fork activations are attempted

2022-05-06 Thread Russell O'Connor via bitcoin-dev
On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 2:01 PM Jorge Timón via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > > Russell O'Connor wrote the definitive explanation for how ST arose in >> the consensus process and how it was designed to make everyone >> unhappy. It's a great explanation of what we

Re: [bitcoin-dev] What to do when contentious soft fork activations are attempted

2022-05-06 Thread Jorge Timón via bitcoin-dev
On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 4:36 PM Ryan Grant wrote: > On Sun, May 1, 2022 at 8:49 PM Jorge Timón via bitcoin-dev > wrote: > > On Sun, May 1, 2022, 09:22 alicexbt via bitcoin-dev < > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > > >> [...] Andreas is clueless about BIP 119 and other covenant > >>