Re: [bitcoin-dev] Playing with full-rbf peers for fun and L2s security

2022-06-27 Thread Greg Sanders via bitcoin-dev
One key difference seems to be that properly punishing someone based on mempool behavior seems much more difficult. As we all know there is no "the mempool". On Sun, Jun 26, 2022, 8:43 PM Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Playing with full-rbf peers for fun and L2s security

2022-06-27 Thread Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev
On June 27, 2022 8:03:38 AM EDT, Greg Sanders wrote: >One key difference seems to be that properly punishing someone based on >mempool behavior seems much more difficult. As we all know there is no "the >mempool". No, that's not relevant here: the DoS condition is the existence of a (mined)

[bitcoin-dev] [BIP proposal] Private Payments

2022-06-27 Thread Alfred Hodler via bitcoin-dev
Hi, There have been attempts to create static payment codes that function as a way for transacting parties to create "private" addresses, where private stands for "known only to transacting parties". BIP47 was one such standard. The standard suffered from a number of problems: 1. The standard

Re: [bitcoin-dev] [BIP proposal] Private Payments

2022-06-27 Thread Bryan Bishop via bitcoin-dev
Hi, On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 2:14 PM Alfred Hodler via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > 2. Notification transactions still exist but no longer leave a privacy > footprint on the blockchain. Instead, a notification transaction is simply > a single OP_RETURN containing

Re: [bitcoin-dev] [BIP proposal] Private Payments

2022-06-27 Thread Ruben Somsen via bitcoin-dev
Hi Alfred, Thanks for taking the time to write a proposal. >The inability of payment codes to explicitly state which address types they derive places a burden on more resource constrained wallets I agree it's not as efficient as it could be, but how big is this problem in practice? Expecting

Re: [bitcoin-dev] [BIP proposal] Private Payments

2022-06-27 Thread Ruben Somsen via bitcoin-dev
Hi Bryan, >just publishing on a tor hidden service that other wallets check The problem is that this data is critical to access the funds. By putting it on-chain you're guaranteeing that it's always available when you restore your funds from backup. Cheers, Ruben On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 10:21