Re: [Bitcoin-development] Revisiting the BIPS process, a proposal

2013-10-21 Thread Martin Sustrik
On 21/10/13 21:47, Luke-Jr wrote: > On Monday, October 21, 2013 7:38:37 PM Jean-Paul Kogelman wrote: >> 1) Should the protocol specification page also be codified into BIP(s)? > > Probably wouldn't hurt, but it'd likely need a rewrite in a more modular and > formal form. I wanted to have a look at

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Revisiting the BIPS process, a proposal

2013-10-21 Thread Benjamin Cordes
I believe a better solution would to use a github clone such as gitlab, which sits on top of the git repo, and allows for custom code around the BIP process. Potentially one could even build Bitcoin into such a BIP system. If somebody wants to support a BIP he donates Bitcoins to that proposal. Som

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Revisiting the BIPS process, a proposal

2013-10-21 Thread Benjamin Cordes
I believe a better solution would to use a gitlab clone such as gitlab, which sits on top of the git repo, and allows for custom code around the BIP process. Potentially one could even build Bitcoin into such a BIP system. If somebody wants to support a BIP he donates Bitcoins to that proposal. Som

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Revisiting the BIPS process, a proposal

2013-10-21 Thread Luke-Jr
On Monday, October 21, 2013 7:38:37 PM Jean-Paul Kogelman wrote: > 1) Should the protocol specification page also be codified into BIP(s)? Probably wouldn't hurt, but it'd likely need a rewrite in a more modular and formal form. > 2) Should the current wiki pages be taken down / forwarded to the

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Revisiting the BIPS process, a proposal

2013-10-21 Thread Jean-Paul Kogelman
I have some more questions.1) Should the protocol specification page also be codified into BIP(s)?2) Should the current wiki pages be taken down / forwarded to the git repo or be auto updated from the git repo?3) Even though the information in BIP 50 is valuable, should it really be considered a BI

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Revisiting the BIPS process, a proposal

2013-10-21 Thread Jeff Garzik
Added: I'm happy with gmaxwell as BIP editor as well, as he is apparently the current BIP-number-assigner-in-chief. :) The goal is to improve the process, hash-seal our specs, and create an easy way for anyone with at least an email address to participate. On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Jeff

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Revisiting the BIPS process, a proposal

2013-10-21 Thread Jeff Garzik
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Andreas Schildbach wrote: > I accept the nomination as a backup (-: Cool. > So the duty of the editor is merging pull requests and/or proxying > between email and git for those who do not use git? Correct. And assigning BIP numbers. Ideally a boring administr

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Revisiting the BIPS process, a proposal

2013-10-21 Thread Andreas Schildbach
On 10/21/2013 04:34 PM, Jeff Garzik wrote: > I'll volunteer as the BIPS editor. > > There needs to be some backups with commit access to bips.git, in case > the BIPS editor is hit by a bus or goes crazy or on vacation. This > can be some core devs, but I would like at least one or two folks who >

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Revisiting the BIPS process, a proposal

2013-10-21 Thread Jeff Garzik
Continuing. (grumble gmail grumble) As with the IETF, there will be a great many drafts that do not make it to BIPS status. That is normal, and a sign of a healthy process. I'll volunteer as the BIPS editor. There needs to be some backups with commit access to bips.git, in case the BIPS editor

[Bitcoin-development] Revisiting the BIPS process, a proposal

2013-10-21 Thread Jeff Garzik
This summarizes some rambling on IRC about revising the BIPS process. Right now, the BIPS process is a bit haphazard. Previously, BIPS were in a git repo, and the BIPS on the wiki were locked against editing. The BIPS editor at the time started off well, but was eventually M.I.A. So the BIPS "ho

Re: [Bitcoin-development] A critique of bitcoin open source community

2013-10-21 Thread Jorge Timón
I think it's great to move BIPs to github. I also agree with the states -> directories mapping. Git manages moved files well. On 10/21/13, Jean-Paul Kogelman wrote: > > On 2013-10-21, at 2:44 AM, Arto Bendiken wrote: > >> >> Indeed. The BIP analogs that immediately come to mind would be the >>

Re: [Bitcoin-development] A critique of bitcoin open source community

2013-10-21 Thread Jean-Paul Kogelman
On 2013-10-21, at 2:44 AM, Arto Bendiken wrote: > > Indeed. The BIP analogs that immediately come to mind would be the > enhancement proposal processes for Python, XMPP, and BitTorrent: Bitcoin's BIP process is directly based off of Python's PEP process. Quote from BIP 1, History: This docu

Re: [Bitcoin-development] A critique of bitcoin open source community

2013-10-21 Thread Arto Bendiken
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Melvin Carvalho wrote: > > I've followed quite a few FLOSS projects over the years. Overall, I've been > amazingly impressed with the BIP process (dont forget it's used in other > systems too -- python?). It seems an agile process, that strikes an great > balanc

Re: [Bitcoin-development] A critique of bitcoin open source community

2013-10-21 Thread Melvin Carvalho
On 21 October 2013 09:03, Martin Sustrik wrote: > On 21/10/13 08:52, Jean-Paul Kogelman wrote: > > How about putting them into sub directories that map onto the status of > the BIP? > > > > Reading BIP 1, that would make: > > > > Accepted > > Active > > Draft > > Deferred > > Final > > Rejected >

Re: [Bitcoin-development] A critique of bitcoin open source community

2013-10-21 Thread Martin Sustrik
On 21/10/13 09:07, Jean-Paul Kogelman wrote: > The list comes from BIP 1. Sorry, I haven't meant you personally. It was just a generic question about using existing process instead of inventing a new one on the go. >> Have it been considered to do this via IETF? The process there is hardened >>

Re: [Bitcoin-development] A critique of bitcoin open source community

2013-10-21 Thread Martin Sustrik
On 21/10/13 08:52, Jean-Paul Kogelman wrote: > How about putting them into sub directories that map onto the status of the > BIP? > > Reading BIP 1, that would make: > > Accepted > Active > Draft > Deferred > Final > Rejected > Replaced > Withdrawn Have it been considered to do this via IETF? The

Re: [Bitcoin-development] A critique of bitcoin open source community

2013-10-21 Thread Jean-Paul Kogelman
The list comes from BIP 1. On 2013-10-21, at 12:03 AM, Martin Sustrik wrote: > On 21/10/13 08:52, Jean-Paul Kogelman wrote: >> How about putting them into sub directories that map onto the status of the >> BIP? >> >> Reading BIP 1, that would make: >> >> Accepted >> Active >> Draft >> Deferre