On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 6:19 AM, Daniel Kraft wrote:
> 2) Divide the range of all blocks into intervals with exponentially
> growing size. I. e., something like this:
>
> 1, 1, 2, 2, 4, 4, 8, 8, 16, 16, ...
>
Interesting. This can be combined with the system I suggested.
A node broadcasts 3 p
Hi all!
On 2015-05-12 21:03, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
> Summarizing from memory:
In the context of this discussion, let me also restate an idea I've
proposed in Bitcointalk for this. It is probably not perfect and could
surely be adapted (I'm interested in that), but I think it meets
most/all of t
This is exactly the sort of solution I was hoping for. It seems this is the
minimal modification to make it work, and, if someone was willing to work
with me, I would love to help implement this.
My only concern would be if the - - max-size flag is not included than this
delivers significantly les
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 8:03 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
>
> (0) Block coverage should have locality; historical blocks are
> (almost) always needed in contiguous ranges. Having random peers
> with totally random blocks would be horrific for performance; as you'd
> have to hunt down a working pe
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 8:10 PM, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> True. Part of the issue rests on the block sync horizon/cliff. There is a
> value X which is the average number of blocks the 90th percentile of nodes
> need in order to sync. It is sufficient for the [semi-]pruned nodes to keep
> X blocks,
I suppose this begs two questions:
1) why not have a partial archive store the most recent X% of the
blockchain by default?
2) why not include some sort of torrent in QT, to mitigate this risk? I
don't think this is necessarily a good idea, but I'd like to hear the
reasoning.
On May 12, 2015 4:11
True. Part of the issue rests on the block sync horizon/cliff. There is a
value X which is the average number of blocks the 90th percentile of nodes
need in order to sync. It is sufficient for the [semi-]pruned nodes to
keep X blocks, after which nodes must fall back to archive nodes for older
d
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> One general problem is that security is weakened when an attacker can DoS a
> small part of the chain by DoS'ing a small number of nodes - yet the impact
> is a network-wide DoS because nobody can complete a sync.
It might be more interesting
Yet this holds true in our current assumptions of the network as well: that
it will become a collection of pruned nodes with a few storage nodes.
A hybrid option makes this better, because it spreads the risk, rather than
concentrating it in full nodes.
On May 12, 2015 3:38 PM, "Jeff Garzik" wrot
One general problem is that security is weakened when an attacker can DoS a
small part of the chain by DoS'ing a small number of nodes - yet the impact
is a network-wide DoS because nobody can complete a sync.
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 12:24 PM, gabe appleton
wrote:
> 0, 1, 3, 4, 5, 6 can be solv
0, 1, 3, 4, 5, 6 can be solved by looking at chunks chronologically. Ie,
give the signed (by sender) hash of the first and last block in your range.
This is less data dense than the idea above, but it might work better.
That said, this is likely a less secure way to do it. To improve upon that,
a
It's a little frustrating to see this just repeated without even
paying attention to the desirable characteristics from the prior
discussions.
Summarizing from memory:
(0) Block coverage should have locality; historical blocks are
(almost) always needed in contiguous ranges. Having random peers
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Peter Todd wrote:
>
> Lots of people are tossing around ideas for partial archival nodes that
> would store a subset of blocks, such that collectively the whole
> blockchain would be available even if no one node had the entire chain.
>
A compact way to describe
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 09:05:44AM -0700, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> A general assumption is that you will have a few archive nodes with the
> full blockchain, and a majority of nodes are pruned, able to serve only the
> tail of the chains.
Hmm?
Lots of people are tossing around ideas for partial archi
Yes, but that just increases the incentive for partially-full nodes. It
would add to the assumed-small number of full nodes.
Or am I misunderstanding?
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> A general assumption is that you will have a few archive nodes with the
> full blockchain
A general assumption is that you will have a few archive nodes with the
full blockchain, and a majority of nodes are pruned, able to serve only the
tail of the chains.
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 8:26 AM, gabe appleton wrote:
> Hi,
>
> There's been a lot of talk in the rest of the community about h
Hi,
There's been a lot of talk in the rest of the community about how the 20MB
step would increase storage needs, and that switching to pruned nodes
(partially) would reduce network security. I think I may have a solution.
There could be a hybrid option in nodes. Selecting this would do the
follo
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