Re: [Announce] BBCD -- a CD player for BlackBox

2002-05-03 Thread Duret Bertrand
On Friday 03 May 2002 04:44, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: On 03-May-2002 Duret Bertrand wrote: Hello, ... nice work. We have a guinea pig for the blackbox library when it is ready (-: Thank you very much. Yes, I am looking forward the BlackBox library ;-) As for the dock app problem,

Re: [OT]: Cygwin Blackbox

2002-05-03 Thread Chris Grossmann
Does this work under NT? I've been trying to figure it out, and I think the answer is no. I've been trying to change the default shell for NT, but without any luck. I'm considering embarking on installing 2k.. Fortunately, booting to my windows partition happens less and less frequently.

Re: 2nd set of questions/comments

2002-05-03 Thread Ciprian Popovici
Thursday, May 02, 2002, 03:46:30, thelupine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fourth: everyone see that themes.org has moved to Freshmeat? Happy, Sad or Indifferent? As long as it's working again and has an usable interface, it's great by me. It's nice to have a place to gather all themes for all

Fixed size slit apps?

2002-05-03 Thread Ciprian Popovici
Just off the top of my head: would it be nice if slit-bbtools makers would agree on a graphical standard? Like, say, 60x60 squares, or scale to fixed user custom AxA. It would look nicer when you bundle them together in the slit, whereas now you have all kinds of sizes which are sometimes hard to

Re: selecting and traversing menu's with keys

2002-05-03 Thread Ciprian Popovici
Thursday, May 02, 2002, 12:26:20, Mr. Brigham Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bbkeys seems to work well in spite of the QT vs. Gtk debate. As hardware gets faster, software should run faster, but hey, that is only my opinion. Well made software, that is. Some programmers twist this theory the

Re: Fixed size slit apps?

2002-05-03 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 02-May-2002 Ciprian Popovici wrote: Just off the top of my head: would it be nice if slit-bbtools makers would agree on a graphical standard? Like, say, 60x60 squares, or scale to fixed user custom AxA. It would look nicer when you bundle them together in the slit, whereas now you have all

[ 550451 ] latest cvs version mozilla crash...still present in 5/3/20 CVS

2002-05-03 Thread dan radom
Sean, I just checked the sf tracker this morning, and noticed you've closed the bug. AFter building CVS blackbox it still crashes consistantly when mozilla is uniconified. dan

Re: [ 550451 ] latest cvs version mozilla crash...still present

2002-05-03 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 03-May-2002 dan radom wrote: Sean, I just checked the sf tracker this morning, and noticed you've closed the bug. AFter building CVS blackbox it still crashes consistantly when mozilla is uniconified. dan That doesn't happen here or on a few other people's setup. Please, give the

Re: [Announce] BBCD -- a CD player for BlackBox

2002-05-03 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
As for the dock app problem, I know what the problem is just not the solution. I noticed two points (may be, you already know?): - if wmhints.icon_window is set to None, that works perfectly. - if Blakbox is restarted, all dock apps are back to the slit. I think it is the case when

Re: Fixed size slit apps?

2002-05-03 Thread Derek Cunningham
On Fri, May03,02 07:21, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: On 02-May-2002 Ciprian Popovici wrote: Just off the top of my head: would it be nice if slit-bbtools makers would agree on a graphical standard? Like, say, 60x60 squares, or scale to fixed user custom AxA. It would look nicer when you

Re: Fixed size slit apps?

2002-05-03 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
PS: One thing that does need to happen though... is bbkeys, bbappconf, and other bbtools that don't actually need an interface should have a daemon mode! because of the way blackbox works the programs are required to map a window. Blackbox uses a listener (subscriber, whatever) protocol.

Re: Fixed size slit apps?

2002-05-03 Thread Derek Cunningham
On Fri, May03,02 09:16, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: PS: One thing that does need to happen though... is bbkeys, bbappconf, and other bbtools that don't actually need an interface should have a daemon mode! because of the way blackbox works the programs are required to map a window.

what are GNOME, KDE, GNUstep hints?

2002-05-03 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
What does it mean when a window manager supports GNOME hints? What are some examples of GNOME, KDE, and/or GNUstep hints? I am curious, because I use a variety of gtk-based and some qt-based apps and I am wondering if I am missing some functionality. I remember there were some patches for KDE

Re: what are GNOME, KDE, GNUstep hints?

2002-05-03 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 03-May-2002 Jeremy C. Reed wrote: What does it mean when a window manager supports GNOME hints? What are some examples of GNOME, KDE, and/or GNUstep hints? In the past there were hints set by each of the desktop groups. Each set of hints was proprietary to that desktop. GNOME hints

alpha3 released

2002-05-03 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
New in alpha3: a fix for menu flicker and moving multiple open child menus slit client which have icon_window == client_window work again when decor is toggled off the decor is destroyed. This fixes the phantom decor bug when switching workspaces. prevent a crash in iconify from accessing a

Window list

2002-05-03 Thread Brian Alexander Todd
Dear blackboxers, Is there anyway to have the Blackbox window list (the menu I get if I do root-Workspace List-Workspace 1 that contains a list of the windows) popup automatically when I start blackbox? I like having it open all the time to navigate the windows on my screen but it is a little

Re: [Announce] BBCD -- a CD player for BlackBox

2002-05-03 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 03-May-2002 Duret Bertrand wrote: Hello, I have just released a beta version of BBCD: it's a new bbtool (as far as I know), and it's yet another CD player. It is still in development, but it may be used to play CDs. If you are interested, go there:

Re: Window list

2002-05-03 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 03-May-2002 Brian Alexander Todd wrote: Dear blackboxers, Is there anyway to have the Blackbox window list (the menu I get if I do root-Workspace List-Workspace 1 that contains a list of the windows) popup automatically when I start blackbox? I like having it open all the time to

Re: [ 550451 ] latest cvs version mozilla crash...still present

2002-05-03 Thread dan radom
i happen to be using my laptop today, and just built cvs and do not see this mozilla problem. i'll try to do some more testing and go from there. what type of info would be helpful? blackbox was built with --enable-debug. dan:wq * Sean 'Shaleh' Perry ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On

Re: [ 550451 ] latest cvs version mozilla crash...still present

2002-05-03 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 03-May-2002 dan radom wrote: i happen to be using my laptop today, and just built cvs and do not see this mozilla problem. i'll try to do some more testing and go from there. what type of info would be helpful? blackbox was built with --enable-debug. CXXFLAGS=-g -O2 ./configure is a

Re: [Announce] BBCD -- a CD player for BlackBox

2002-05-03 Thread Jan Schaumann
Duret Bertrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tranber1.free.fr/bbcd.html H, linux only, it seems (cdrom.h). (Maybe when I find the time...) -Jan

Re: [ 550451 ] latest cvs version mozilla crash...still present

2002-05-03 Thread dan radom
LOL. mozilla 0.9.9, i do use tabs, but i'm not sure if this happens with multiple tabs open, or the single window. my favorite colour is green of course, and my mom's dog died recently. his name was mork. I'll rebuild blackbox and play around with it tonight. after building CVS version

Re: [Announce] BBCD -- a CD player for BlackBox

2002-05-03 Thread Jan Schaumann
Jeremy C. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * As of Linux 2.1.x, all Linux CD-ROM application programs will use this * (and only this) include file. :( I thought the whole world was Microsoft. And now others are trying to make it all be Linux. I know. Blah. (Maybe when I find the

Re: [Announce] BBCD -- a CD player for BlackBox

2002-05-03 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
On Fri, 3 May 2002, Jan Schaumann wrote: On your NetBSD box, try using /usr/src/sys/compat/linux/common/linux_cdrom.h (Haven't tried yet) Wouldn't that mean, that I'd have to run the whole app in linux-emulation (!= desirable)? No, I don't think so. (You'll build it native.) It just

Re: Fixed size slit apps?

2002-05-03 Thread Es Bee Ex
On Fri, 3 May 2002 12:21:28 -0400 Derek Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May03,02 09:16, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: because of the way blackbox works the programs are required to map a window. Blackbox uses a listener (subscriber, whatever) protocol. The app has to register

Re: alpha3 released

2002-05-03 Thread Chris Grossmann
I'm still getting apps not swallowed on the slit.. It appears to be intermittant. For instance, asmon and wavemon are always swallowed into the slit, but sometimes artifacts appear from where they were before they were swallowed. (most interesting, is that these artifacts are active, and

Re: alpha3 released

2002-05-03 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 03-May-2002 Chris Grossmann wrote: I'm still getting apps not swallowed on the slit.. It appears to be intermittant. For instance, asmon and wavemon are always swallowed into the slit, but sometimes artifacts appear from where they were before they were swallowed. (most interesting,

Re: Fixed size slit apps?

2002-05-03 Thread Marc Wilson
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 03:18:38PM -0500, Es Bee Ex wrote: Sometimes I notice that even though bbappconf is started iconified, it displays a small backplate in the corner of the screen. This disappears if I click it. It started doing this sometime after blackbox 0.60... since it's been

Re: Fixed size slit apps?

2002-05-03 Thread Ciprian Popovici
Friday, May 03, 2002, 19:10:38, Derek Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm... gkrellm has a user-configurable width, which works fine for me, and it looks pretty damn good in the slit. I know. However, I personally have a problem with gkrellm's vertical-only display, since I'd like to have

Fatal Feature-itis

2002-05-03 Thread Mr. Brigham Young
There is a standard at play here and unless I hear someone say it doesn't matter then that also matters even though the quote received no comment. As far as the point about sloppy coding that is certainly true, but my point is that if you just want a window system to run X, then you just want a

Re: Fatal Feature-itis

2002-05-03 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 04-May-2002 Mr. Brigham Young wrote: There is a standard at play here and unless I hear someone say it doesn't matter then that also matters even though the quote received no comment. As far as the point about sloppy coding that is certainly true, but my point is that if you just want a

Re: Fatal Feature-itis

2002-05-03 Thread Mr. Brigham Young
Great Job Sean, I'm making points more for other readers I suspect. I have noticed that other users like blackbox so much that they want it to do the things that most other wms do. I like those features too but I understand what makes bb elite and I'd like others to understand where I am coming

Re: Fixed size slit apps?

2002-05-03 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
PS: I get choked up when I think that after BB switches over to the bblib, I'm gonna loose bbappconf... however, I may find some other tool that does the same thing via netwm, or I'll just have to hack something together. :) bbappconf will need to be ported to the netwm. Blackbox will

click to focus bug when in sloppy focus

2002-05-03 Thread Marco Fonseca
I thought I remember seeing a thread about this bug, but I don't see it on the bug tracker(I know it atleast exists still in pre3). Was there ever a bug filled out for it? (this is the one where if you click anywhere on a window it will bring it to the foreground, when it should only be