Re: [blfs-support] More weirdness in this install

2019-11-23 Thread Paul Rogers via blfs-support
g--but then I can see 9 boxes from where I sit, touch 3, and if you don't have a spare, you couldn't. -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates." (I do not personally endorse any additions after this line. TANSTAAFL :-) --

Re: [blfs-support] Highly critical flaw/patch out for exim

2019-09-07 Thread Paul Rogers via blfs-support
> The book has exim-4.92.1, which is already patched. I'd suggest to install > this version: I do not think the build is different from 4.90.1. According to what I read 4.92.2 has the appropriate patch. -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everythin

[blfs-support] Highly critical flaw/patch out for exim

2019-09-06 Thread Paul Rogers via blfs-support
"Nothing ventured..." It seems to patch cleanly, if with some offset, in my BLFS-8.1 exim-4.90.1. Just discovered it, not rebuilt yet, but thought you'd want to know. -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates." (I

Re: [blfs-support] BLFS-8.1 with new kernel patches

2019-08-03 Thread Paul Rogers via blfs-support
ut again pio proved the X, GTK, Firefox chain had not been corrupted. Perhaps something in my user configuration? So, in short and for the benefit of anybody else making old kit work, more testing showed my suspicions were wrong, and 4.14.134 does seem to work. Later patches are _not_ incom

Re: [blfs-support] BLFS-8.1 with new kernel patches

2019-07-26 Thread Paul Rogers via blfs-support
between 62 & 134 that won't crash on this Conroe, then fork my release for different CPUs. Should only take 7 tries max. That's the worst reason ever for forking one of my distros! -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates.

Re: [blfs-support] BLFS-8.1 with new kernel patches

2019-07-25 Thread Paul Rogers via blfs-support
onroe would be compatible with my Bloomfield & Sandy Bridge. If that works I could fork this for i7's, and try an intermediate kernel patch for the Conroe. But it'd be nice to resolve this. -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicate

[blfs-support] BLFS-8.1 with new kernel patches

2019-07-25 Thread Paul Rogers via blfs-support
but don't recall something like this, perhaps because it didn't seem relevant at the time.) -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates." (I do not personally endorse any additions after this line. TANSTAAFL :-) -- http://

[blfs-support] X.Org RIP?

2019-06-28 Thread Paul Rogers via blfs-support
Red Hat Expecting X.Org To "Go Into Hard Maintenance Mode Fairly Quickly" https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=X.Org-Maintenance-Mode-Quickly -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates." (I do not per

Re: [blfs-support] Firefox 67 will use a new profile

2019-05-21 Thread Paul Rogers via blfs-support
ch system you're on, set xyzzy to be the appropriate for that system and make a separate profile for each particular system, and Bob' your Uncle. And thanks. I've never confuddled /home for exactly this reason--it's *got* to bite one in the nether regions sooner or later!

Re: [blfs-support] Make-ca errors

2019-02-23 Thread Paul Rogers via blfs-support
was the first time I noticed the effect, and it went away in a day or so. All I can offer is the suggestion to review any meds you've taken recently for mental side-effects. -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates." (I do

Re: [blfs-support] twm menu not working

2019-02-09 Thread Paul Rogers via blfs-support
ain. If you're used to something like even fluxbox, twm AIN'T that! It's really primitive! I'd move on. -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates." (I do not personally endorse any additions after this line. TANSTA

[blfs-support] Firefox 65 won't build on LFS 7.10

2019-01-30 Thread Paul Rogers via blfs-support
e advantages of building by a BLFS Book, the versions of things mesh. -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates." (I do not personally endorse any additions after this line. TANSTAAFL :-) -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs

Re: [blfs-support] pio [Was: On updating old systems]

2019-01-04 Thread Paul Rogers via blfs-support
posed criteria. > You just don't get it. That only works if pio builds such lists > correctly. And it does not build such lists correctly. It should be clear to everybody else now how pio works and how to use it. It's up to each of them to decide for themselves whether they ca

Re: [blfs-support] pio [Was: On updating old systems]

2019-01-03 Thread Paul Rogers via blfs-support
thought beforehand. And by the way, I've often built whole systems, using pio and loopback "virtual" filesystems in a chroot. That way I can be doing other things while pio is observing installations on what it perceives to be a "quiet system" with nothing else going

Re: [blfs-support] line-wrapping [Was: On updating old systems]

2019-01-01 Thread Paul Rogers via blfs-support
gt; lines and format just those lines. > > ==== > > ; use it. I will. I don't like long lines either. Lemme try it. Thanks. Seems to work. -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates." (I do not

Re: [blfs-support] On updating old systems

2018-12-31 Thread Paul Rogers via blfs-support
e.) pio works, if one understands how, and uses it in a manner that lets it see what the proper state of installation is. > > I understand about removal/--help/&c&c (incl did go and read the script > & related materials): but you say about listing of package contents; > and

Re: [blfs-support] On updating old systems

2018-12-30 Thread Paul Rogers via blfs-support
KG2 --restore PKG restore files from backup PKG --supports PKG2 note the exclusive use by PKG2 --uses PKG2 note the advantage because of PKG2 --version output version information and exit --watch DIRn paths to be watched during installation --xc

Re: [blfs-support] On updating old systems

2018-12-28 Thread Paul Rogers via blfs-support
ry to build everything with all internal dependencies and And I very much depend on, and am very grateful for, you doing that. What I do is because I do NOT want to "leave the reservation" and take on that job! -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers'

Re: [blfs-support] On updating old systems

2018-12-26 Thread Paul Rogers via blfs-support
ught I was being clear, but apparently not. I am a contrarian from your suggestion. I subscribe to the theory and rebuild everything every time I build a new LFS. It's just easier that way. Machine cycles are cheap, debugging time is expensive. -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Ro

Re: [blfs-support] On updating old systems

2018-12-25 Thread Paul Rogers via blfs-support
surprise, Wot?! Now we have to support GTK & QT BOTH?!?!?! > > This building everything rom source is a fun game, isn't it ? > > ĸen Not exactly, but it's the cost of having a chance at reasonable security, actually owning one's own computer. -- Paul Rogers pa

[blfs-support] Fluxbox abandonware?

2018-12-11 Thread Paul Rogers via blfs-support
atures of a WM are to be done, just many contributed "accretions". I build xfce, but rarely use a full DE, just the bare fluxbox WM, eye-candy isn't really my "thing". Where is LFS going on the subject of WMs? -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "

Re: [blfs-support] Xorg Intel Driver-20180223 Kernal Configuration.

2018-11-25 Thread Paul Rogers via blfs-support
on with make menuconfig. > > > > I'm not sure what happened to the I810, and not really interested - > it predated modern intel CPUs. Correct. Intel's 810 chipset was for early Socket-370 Pentium-III systems, which may have included an embeded graphics. -- Paul Rogers pau

[blfs-support] Mount & codepage 437

2018-11-20 Thread Paul Rogers via blfs-support
DOS HD that came off, and "tar tf ..." shows the files beginning with "!" in quotes. I can extract that and ls shows them in quotes too. -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates." (I do not personally endorse an

Re: [blfs-support] Compilation failures - missing header files

2018-10-04 Thread Paul Rogers via blfs-support
Thanks for all those who tried to help, much appreciated. > > Regards, > > Alex Alex, indeed, that would really bother me too! It really does suggest there are further problems in your system. I'd stop until I could figure out why this workaround is necessary. -- Paul Rogers pa

Re: [blfs-support] Compilation failures - missing header files

2018-10-04 Thread Paul Rogers via blfs-support
s and dead-ends. The becomes its own distraction that gets in the way. One must approach each foray with the same open mind, care, and essential optimism that it will all work once one finds where one went wrong. But on the very positive side, when I find where I made my mistake, I always find

Re: [blfs-support] logfile permission and logrotate

2018-10-03 Thread Paul Rogers via blfs-support
and mode in logrotate files, e.g. /var/log/secure { create 660 root root } -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates." (I do not personally endorse any additions after this line. TANSTAAFL :-) -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org

Re: [blfs-support] Compilation failures - missing header files

2018-10-03 Thread Paul Rogers via blfs-support
ent? You can do either initially, if you're careful. It's probably simplest to boot the new LFS--it's initally a PITA until you get some of the BLFS basics, but after that you should be in the new system. Also check that things like pkg-config are referencing the right files.

Re: [blfs-support] Common post install commands

2018-09-01 Thread Paul Rogers via blfs-support
ng opinions about having a very tight "internal" firewall on every system--if something nails one box on your LAN, you don't need to have everything else wide-open to everything! - nmap, along those same lines. -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Eve

Re: [blfs-support] Configuring the JAVA environment

2018-08-25 Thread Paul Rogers
y much a moving target, liable to "switch horses in midstream". You need to get svn to download a copy of what you started with. You're pretty far into it to start over, but next time go for the stable version of the book. -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Seco

Re: [blfs-support] *rxvt xft letter spacing PATCHED

2018-07-22 Thread Paul Rogers
ft:Monospace-9 I want letterSpace: 2. URxvt.font: xft:Monospace-9 URxvt.letterSpace: -2 In my playing around I discovered xft tries to apply letterSpace to all the fonts it has, whether in .Xresources or not. If a large number may be required for a widely spac

Re: [blfs-support] *rxvt xft letter spacing

2018-07-20 Thread Paul Rogers
l.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs-fonts.html - I would hope that > the legacy fonts in the book include some of those. There are links But XOrg is moving away from legacy fonts. Sooner or later... > > HTH Much appreciated. -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "

Re: [blfs-support] *rxvt xft letter spacing

2018-07-19 Thread Paul Rogers
ething misconfigured or misinstalled with xft to produce this wierd l e t t e r s p a c i n g, which certainly suggest two bytes being used. Probably better to fix my error, I don't see many others with this problem. I'm hoping somebody here recognizes it and knows what to

[blfs-support] *rxvt xft letter spacing

2018-07-19 Thread Paul Rogers
e r s. I'm not finding anything on Google. What do I need to fix, please? TIA. -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates." (I do not personally endorse any additions after this line. TANSTAAFL :-) -- http://lists.linuxfro

Re: [blfs-support] BLFS-Basic

2018-07-11 Thread Paul Rogers
ing support very troublesone. -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates." (I do not personally endorse any additions after this line. TANSTAAFL :-) -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscr

Re: [blfs-support] Reducing my contributions

2018-06-25 Thread Paul Rogers
Dang, well, good luck. You will be missed. -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates." (I do not personally endorse any additions after this line. TANSTAAFL :-) -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-su

[blfs-support] BLFS-8.1 & Firefox

2018-06-16 Thread Paul Rogers
pages. 60.0 is the next esr, but five of my 8.1 supporting packages are too far out of date--I tried that one too. So all I can say is, I wish I had the security patches but I just can't make the esr's work, so 55.0.3 it is. FBBG, eh? -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers&#

Re: [blfs-support] Browser vulnerabilities

2018-06-12 Thread Paul Rogers
several to Moz. No resolution yet. -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates." (I do not personally endorse any additions after this line. TANSTAAFL :-) -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linux

[blfs-support] Civility

2018-06-06 Thread Paul Rogers
I agree! Dial it back guys, or take it out to the parking lot. The rest of us don't want to know. We're all just people here. -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates." (I do not personally endorse any additions a

Re: [blfs-support] BLFS_8.1 libreoffice-5.4, was vsftpd-3.0.3

2018-06-06 Thread Paul Rogers
rned 1 exit status make[1]: *** [/usr/local/src/libreoffice-5.4.5.1/connectivity/Library_postgresql-sdbc-impl.mk:10: /usr/local/src/libreoffice-5.4.5.1/instdir/program/libpostgresql-sdbc-impllo.so] Error 1 make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs make: *** [Makefile:269: build] Error 2

Re: [blfs-support] BLFS_8.1 libreoffice-5.4, was vsftpd-3.0.3

2018-06-05 Thread Paul Rogers
ight to retry LibreOffice. "Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof." -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates." (I do not personally endorse any additions after this line. TANSTAAFL :-) -- http://lists.linuxfroms

[blfs-support] Going offline w/ S-100 correction

2018-06-05 Thread Paul Rogers
K. I had one of those. -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates." (I do not personally endorse any additions after this line. TANSTAAFL :-) -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfroms

Re: [blfs-support] BLFS_8.1 libreoffice-5.4, was vsftpd-3.0.3

2018-06-04 Thread Paul Rogers
y OpenSSL-1.0.2f *or* GnuTLS, but no such option is in the autoconfig options, nor is it clear that switching to "--without-system-openssl --with-system-gnutls" would prevent them from trying to find openssl, then failing download their own duplicate of 1.0.2. I don't want to go off on my o

Re: [blfs-support] BLFS_8.1 vsftpd-3.0.3

2018-06-04 Thread Paul Rogers
oor today--amazingly everythhing fitted spot on! > as a user, but I think that was to do with trying to catch dump > files when tests segfaulted. "C 0" I'm not young enough to use a core dump on somebody else's code! One of the things "life's

Re: [blfs-support] BLFS_8.1 vsftpd-3.0.3

2018-06-03 Thread Paul Rogers
o getting rid of vsftpd does not solve this problem. I'm going to checkout Hazel's report that OpenSSL-1.1.0g did not cause a problem with vsftpd, suggesting maybe SSL_library_init is back in that version? -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everythin

Re: [blfs-support] BLFS_8.1 vsftpd-3.0.3

2018-06-02 Thread Paul Rogers
. Dangerous? Not inherently, the sysadmin (me) took steps to preserve security, pulling plugs. Presume sysadmins know their job, have judged their risks. I'm stepping down from my soapbox now, not for want of arguments to make. All I'll do is leave a parting shot that

Re: [blfs-support] BLFS_8.1 vsftpd-3.0.3

2018-06-01 Thread Paul Rogers
ather than the patch. vsftpd should have the choice of one or the other as prereqs and instructions for installing either. And if you want to keep versioning, vsf-findlibs.sh still needs to be fixed for it. -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everything y

Re: [blfs-support] BLFS_8.1 vsftod-3.0.3

2018-06-01 Thread Paul Rogers
> > Paul might care to google for arch-linux vsftpd : their build file > shows a change to the conf to apparently enable SSL, and a sed to > link to openssl-1.1. Paul found a patch for it that looks good at suse. -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: &

Re: [blfs-support] BLFS_8.1 vsftpd-3.0.3

2018-06-01 Thread Paul Rogers
LFS devs compiled vsftpd-3.0.3 with openssl-1.1.0f as given in the book. > But fixing that means taking steps to fix make-ca. If Paul looked > at a recent version of the svn book with openssh-1.1.0h and > make-ca-0.7, the fix should be there, make-ca-0.8 should be ok. Paul has the 5/22 sv

[blfs-support] BLFS_8.1 vsftod-3.0.3

2018-06-01 Thread Paul Rogers
ime, too old to learn now (really! memory's shot). -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates." (I do not personally endorse any additions after this line. TANSTAAFL :-) -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-supp

Re: [blfs-support] Yelp-3.28.0 does not install

2018-05-31 Thread Paul Rogers
th the threading of > this reply. One of the replies comes through as a scrubbed attachment and > has totally messed the threading up. I've noticed that happens when someone sends an HTML encoded post. Some email clients never have heard of "text" it seems. "What? Who

Re: [blfs-support] blfs-support Digest, Vol 1057, Issue 1

2018-05-28 Thread Paul Rogers
7;ll come back to FF in Brass Monkey. Thank you very much for being a mentor on this! I'm judging 52.?esr somewhat better than the 55.0.3, with the Spectre mitigations you recommended. -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates."

Re: [blfs-support] BLFS-8.1 Build error for Firefox-55

2018-05-27 Thread Paul Rogers
terpolating the ones from 48 & 55. -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates." (I do not personally endorse any additions after this line. TANSTAAFL :-) -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http:/

Re: [blfs-support] BLFS-8.1 Build error for Firefox-55

2018-05-27 Thread Paul Rogers
find my libpng, with my PKG_CONFIG_PATH, etc., shown in my first report. Have I misinterpretted anything? -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates." (I do not personally endorse any additions after this line. TANSTAAFL :-) -- http://list

Re: [blfs-support] BLFS-8.1 Build error for Firefox-55

2018-05-26 Thread Paul Rogers
61 needed 3.37, but I'm sure 3.37.1 is likely to be needed when I > next try a beta. I'll see. I guess I'm ready to try a go at FF60. > > In general, whenever I update a system's firefox to a new release I > always update nspr, nss, sqlite - plus anything els

Re: [blfs-support] BLFS-8.1 Build error for Firefox-55

2018-05-25 Thread Paul Rogers
> On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 08:59:39AM -0700, Paul Rogers wrote: > > > However, I _have_ managed to upgrade to 60.0 (with stylo, pulse) on > > > two 8.1 systems > > > > I'll take that to mean I don't have to upgrade all its dependencies in the > >

Re: [blfs-support] BLFS-8.1 Build error for Firefox-55

2018-05-25 Thread Paul Rogers
et al, I saw go by, which may have new sets of flaws? -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates." (I do not personally endorse any additions after this line. TANSTAAFL :-) -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-support FA

Re: [blfs-support] BLFS-8.1 Build error for Firefox-55

2018-05-24 Thread Paul Rogers
ed system Ummm, you're not saying the exact order of the ac_add_options makes a difference, are you? I've never run into that before! I have an order used many times in the past that makes it easier for me to adjust between versions. > cairo, but recently that failed to build (some rus

Re: [blfs-support] BLFS-8.1 Build error for Firefox-55

2018-05-24 Thread Paul Rogers
el 4.14.26, building FF always does seem to have some issue. Having enough problem with 55! 8-[ -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates." (I do not personally endorse any additions after this line. TANSTAAFL :-) -- http://li

[blfs-support] BLFS-8.1 Build error for Firefox-55

2018-05-23 Thread Paul Rogers
und configuration files, then where the firefox make process fails, as an attached file. It seems mozi is ignoring my PKG_CONFIG_PATH? Someone see something I can't, please? TIA. -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates."

Re: [blfs-support] Building new versions of Pango

2018-05-20 Thread Paul Rogers
> On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 09:38:57AM -0700, Paul Rogers wrote: > > I found Hazel had the same problem. I'm going to try her fix. Thank you, > > Hazel. > > > I forget what Hazel's approach was, but IFF this is pango-1.40.9 > then I think the need for gtk

Re: [blfs-support] Building new versions of Pango

2018-05-20 Thread Paul Rogers
I found Hazel had the same problem. I'm going to try her fix. Thank you, Hazel. -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates." (I do not personally endorse any additions after this line. TANSTAAFL :-) -- http://lists.linuxfrom

[blfs-support] Building new versions of Pango

2018-05-20 Thread Paul Rogers
Building 8.1, GTKDOC is NOT optional--Pango fails autogen without it (which gtkdocize). I'm not going to drag it and all it's prereqs in--I don't want to know about its APIs & ABIs. -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everything yo

Re: [blfs-support] From Core 2 Duo to i7

2018-04-14 Thread Paul Rogers
ing is going to go haywire, you want to catch it before it can do damage to all your work--it's faster than having to do that all again! ;-) -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates." (I do not person

Re: [blfs-support] From Core 2 Duo to i7

2018-04-13 Thread Paul Rogers
You didn't mention if you'd made a 32- or 64-bit system. I agree with Bruce. Matter of fact, I believe I've done it--I had to get *something* running initially on my i7. Your i7 *should* support all the optimizations present in the Core-2. -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fas

Re: [blfs-support] CPU % significantly over 100 ?

2018-04-10 Thread Paul Rogers
sage in a multiprocessing system? Showing more than 100%, makes sense to me. Imagine what you could see during systemd startup. I've never used it, but I believe I've read about an argument to have top show all the subprocess a particular command may have spawned. -- Paul Rogers

Re: [blfs-support] CPU % significantly over 100 ?

2018-04-09 Thread Paul Rogers
fact, I'm disappointed that running LibreOffice it only ever seems to use one core. 8-( The one caution is that, with make running all 8, some jobs with comples sources can over-commit its 12GB of RAM when running compiles with each forking an embedded assembly, etc. -- Paul Rogers pau

Re: [blfs-support] Portability problems ?

2018-02-07 Thread Paul Rogers
bash script. It's been reliable and all I need, nothing I don't. You'll find it, and a sample script using it, in the LFS Hints. See that. (I admit, I could rewrite the hint better.) -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communi

[blfs-support] Portability problems ? SOLVED

2018-02-06 Thread Paul Rogers
fig.sub. > Then, I copied the files libgmpxx.so.4.5.2 and libgmp.so.10.3.2 to > /usr/lib in my system. > > This allowed me to compile, as a first test, the terminal emulator > "rxvt", as Paul Rogers adviced. Now, I have the "minimal" two > independent termina

Re: [blfs-support] Portability problems ?

2018-02-02 Thread Paul Rogers
le in > case your normal one ever goes down, preferably one with few > dependencies. I recommend rxvt: > > http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/xsoft/rxvt-unicode.html > More than that, I always have at least two systems on every box so if something happens to one, I

Re: [blfs-support] Portability problems ?

2018-01-30 Thread Paul Rogers
> Am 29.01.2018 um 23:21 schrieb Paul Rogers: > > I suggest you do as Bruce wrote. > Accepted, Paul. The problem is, that I can only perform "lscpu" on the > desktop  in March, as I am not at home. That *will* make it more difficult. ;-) How much do you know about th

Re: [blfs-support] Portability problems ?

2018-01-29 Thread Paul Rogers
CPU's may have different capabilities, among them not only the 32 vs 64 bit differences, but what's in the flags. It seems your desktop and laptop are more different than you suppose. I suggest you do as Bruce wrote. -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: &

Re: [blfs-support] blfs-support Digest, Vol 968, Issue 1

2018-01-12 Thread Paul Rogers
-support so anyone can see the conversation. I generally don't use a greeter, but in one case where it was necessary I installed slim because it is quite small and has quite minimal prereqs. It's running on a P3 equivalent! -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law

Re: [blfs-support] blfs-support Digest, Vol 961, Issue 1

2018-01-05 Thread Paul Rogers
microcode. You should consider both vulnerable and go for kernel updates. -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates." (I do not personally endorse any additions after this line. TANSTAAFL :-) -- http://lists.linuxfromscratc

Re: [blfs-support] Fluxbox styles

2017-12-06 Thread Paul Rogers
gt; and then I install a wm which is more to my taste in my next set of Which is? Fluxbox doesn't see to have had any activity in a long time. > for grey (unless I'm using xfce or kde, or potentially lxqt) ;-p > > ĸen I have XFCE installed, but KDE is way too bulky,

Re: [blfs-support] Fluxbox styles

2017-12-06 Thread Paul Rogers
e it has something to do with the state of the lastwallpaper file that's created before it's needed. Maybe when I move my style-kit to a different system I'll see it again and be able to find it. Thanks for giving me some ideas to try when I kept banging my head into the s

Re: [blfs-support] Fluxbox styles

2017-12-05 Thread Paul Rogers
to a simple style without one. I think this evening I'll try putting up one background, then call feh with another and see if it changes, or lastwallpaper takes precedence. (I'd call that a bug! Maybe there's a patch? I'll look.) Thanks for your followup. I'll try your idea

Re: [blfs-support] Fluxbox styles

2017-12-04 Thread Paul Rogers
enu.submenu.pixmap:menu-submenu-bullet.xpm menu.selected.pixmap: menu-option-selected.xpm menu.unselected.pixmap: menu-option-unselected.xpm ! -- Toolbar -- ! -- Slit -- ! -- Wallpaper -- background: aspect background.pixmap

[blfs-support] Fluxbox styles

2017-12-03 Thread Paul Rogers
ackground--I'm even exporting wpsetters=feh in .fluxbox/startup, lest it try IM's display--but I shouldn't have to. Google has not been my friend. -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates." (I do not personally en

Re: [blfs-support] About SBUs

2017-11-29 Thread Paul Rogers
s and there's no way to predict the user's case. I'd go with the suggestion to note on the larger packages, those using C++, (JAVA?), that predictions are just unreliable. (reminding me of some primitive peoples who count: one, two, many.) -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm R

[blfs-support] Fluxbox-1.3.7: fbsetroot fails

2017-11-14 Thread Paul Rogers
seems like a duplicate of Bug #1093, for which there was a patch. Tried it, no joy. There's a prerelease version 1.4.0. Tried it, no joy. Does anybody have a patch that works? -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates." (I do n

Re: [blfs-support] Tips for speeding up X startup?

2017-11-06 Thread Paul Rogers
> > Could a preloader like e4rat / e4rat-lite be a solution? I don't think so. By making it first thing in the rc5.d link farm I'm already getting it going as soon as the system is ready to start userspace, i.e. it's safe. -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers

[blfs-support] Tips for speeding up X startup?

2017-11-06 Thread Paul Rogers
ck screen as X starts--the C7 is a 1GHz Pentium-3 work-alike. (It's probably not longer than it'd take when I run startx, but it sure seems longer!) Are there any tips and tricks to make X start faster, or at least quickly throw up a copy of the background slimd would use? -- Paul Roger

Re: [blfs-support] XFCE Missed Icons in xfce4 panel and Thunar

2017-09-10 Thread Paul Rogers
> The question is that it seems that there are some missing icons in the > applications menu (xfce4-panel 4.12.1), like the ones for > "configuration", "accessories" or "system". The appear like a simple > little white box with a red x inside. > > Any help is welcome and congratulations for the LF

Re: [blfs-support] Xen 4.9 on LFS 8.0

2017-08-24 Thread Paul Rogers
> > If there's interest I'd be happy to write a hint on installing and > using the latest Xen Project hypervisor (4.9.0) on the latest LFS > (8.0). It is a lot easier than in years past, but still a few gotchas > that took awhile to work out. > > czep > Yes, please. -- http://lists.linuxfro

[blfs-support] "Green screen" problem with openchrome driver on VIA

2017-08-19 Thread Paul Rogers
attached patch to shut off the error message. This may be somewhat "historical" at this point, but it's a path I was forced to tread this week. Google will search this list, so perhaps it will help someone else in this position. -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' S

Re: [blfs-support] rsync

2017-08-04 Thread Paul Rogers
> > Maybe there should be a blurb on why you would use it? > > Ssh with user key authentication is the way to go for me. > > If anyone is interested, I can post my backup script which includes> > > > snapshots. > I'm glad you posted that Wayne, because I've been scratching my > head too> wonderin

[blfs-support] rsync

2017-08-03 Thread Paul Rogers
write access to in FS permissions? Would rsync not work without a writable directory? Realizing the file distribution point is perhaps primarily just a very basic example, I fear it may be a "tail wagging the dog" if it has prompted giving rsync a FS writable directory. -- Paul Rogers pa

Re: [blfs-support] BLFS-7.10, Firefox-48.0.2, video

2017-07-12 Thread Paul Rogers
OK, building x264, and rebuilding ffmpeg in case it needs to see but not firefox which "shouldn't", and now I have video with sound! YAY! May I suggest the book description, at least, say it's a decoder as well. It really would be helpful if the book were a little more explicit about which "opti

Re: [blfs-support] BLFS-7.10, Firefox-48.0.2, video

2017-07-12 Thread Paul Rogers
> > According to the recommended deps of ffmpeg in the book, you may miss: > - x264 > - x265 ... > > Most likely, the x* might be needed. Note that FF-48 does not use > gstreamer, > Pierre > > Yes, I would expect x264 to be essential for playing mp4 videos. > > ĸen Thanks, guys. Please do

Re: [blfs-support] BLFS-7.10, Firefox-48.0.2, video

2017-07-12 Thread Paul Rogers
On Wed, Jul 12, 2017, at 12:12 AM, Pierre Labastie wrote: > > Did I miss something, or get the order wring? > > > > According to the recommended deps of ffmpeg in the book, you may miss: > - x264 > - x265 > - opus > - libass > - fdk-aac > - lame > - libtheora > > Most likely, the x* might be need

Re: [blfs-support] BLFS-7.10, Firefox-48.0.2, video

2017-07-11 Thread Paul Rogers
gins-good-1.8.3 libvpx-1.6.0 gst-plugins-bad-1.8.3 gst-plugins-ugly-1.8.3 gst-libav-1.8.3 alsa-tools-1.1.0 ffmpeg-3.1.3 Did I miss something, or get the order wring? -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates." (I do not personally en

Re: [blfs-support] BLFS-7.10, Firefox-48.0.2, video

2017-07-11 Thread Paul Rogers
ects Firefox to ALSA? FFMPEG? Gstreamer? Where? How? Help! (TIA) -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates." (I do not personally endorse any additions after this line. TANSTAAFL :-) -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.

Re: [blfs-support] BLFS-7.10, Firefox-48.0.2, video

2017-07-07 Thread Paul Rogers
> > My startx alias specifies VT7, so I can CTRL-ALT-F1 and see my original > > terminal. > > I meant running it from an *x*term or equivalent, not a tty. > > ĸen I did that, and tried video: [11:54 ~]$ firefox TypeError: notificationCallbacks is null TypeError: notificationCallbacks is null

Re: [blfs-support] My finished LFS-7.10 x86-64 build

2017-07-06 Thread Paul Rogers
Just now, well, tomorrow morning, I'm wondering if the Iced-Tea plugin went to the right place. -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates." (I do not personally endorse any additions after this line. TANSTAAFL :-) -- http://lists

Re: [blfs-support] BLFS-7.10, Firefox-48.0.2, video

2017-07-06 Thread Paul Rogers
> ff48 was so long ago (my notes say August last year), but at the Whenever you guys finalized BLFS-7.10. I've been working on this since Feb 20th. But then I've got a whole infrastructure around my builds. > time it worked well for me with youtube (html5) and a local mp4 (the That's what I ha

[blfs-support] BLFS-7.10, Firefox-48.0.2, video

2017-07-06 Thread Paul Rogers
he mailing list, but found no smoking guns. I think I have everything, gstreamer-1.8.3, et al. Am I missing something? Recommendations? TIA -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates." (I do not personally endorse any additions a

Re: [blfs-support] Question about meaning of "default auto" in configure scripts

2017-06-21 Thread Paul Rogers
'll even see mention of options that aren't in the configure statement. IMO, it's not/never a bad idea to do a "./configure --help|less" before trying to install a package (so much so I have a "chl" alias that does just that.) -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm R

Re: [blfs-support] poweroff / reboot sequence of kill scripts

2017-06-19 Thread Paul Rogers
let it touch a network or vice-versa. The only runlevel I've never used IS 5. I always start X from the command line, after watching the boot, and many times never start it. -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates." (I do no

Re: [blfs-support] Runtime dependency? (It doesn't say.)

2017-06-19 Thread Paul Rogers
devices. So I don't know how much of this is done > > in software and what's in hardware. What is it I should know, or > > where can I find an understandable explanation? > > I think you need libsndfile for the au format. > >-- Bruce I didn't install it o

Re: [blfs-support] poweroff / reboot sequence of kill scripts

2017-06-19 Thread Paul Rogers
are now three. Both sysinit & shutdown are very much simplified versions of rc. And this design has simplified rc in turn. The one script had logic and exceptions for special processing. The three new scripts are nearly "straight-line code", basically with one job to do. Task sc

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