For any and all who want to contact me
(Japan, Nama audio recording software)\
jo...@pobox.com .
Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Hello Joel!
>
> thanks for you quick reply!
>
> Please, could you send me your eMail, or another contact method?
>
> This list
for blind general discussion napísal(a):
> Hiya,
>
> I'm not blind or native, but 18+, hanging around the list,
> and did live in Japan for many years. Ask away, if you dare!
>
> Joel
>
>> Hello everyone,
>> slightly off-topic, but I wonder, are there any blind fellow
Hiya,
I'm not blind or native, but 18+, hanging around the list,
and did live in Japan for many years. Ask away, if you dare!
Joel
> Hello everyone,
> slightly off-topic, but I wonder, are there any blind fellows from these
> countries hanging around on this list?
>
> I
Hello everyone,
slightly off-topic, but I wonder, are there any blind fellows from these
countries hanging around on this list?
I love travelling and would like to visit these countries sooner or
later, so it would be great to find someone native to ask few questions.
Thanks!
Best regards
The Fediverse is probably the best for what you want. I'm not sure
whether Pleroma does it yet, but I know Friendica has the concept of
forums, which are actually groups within the larger community that is
the individual server or the universe that is the Fediverse itself.
These forums or
TL; DR: mostly trying to clarify and perhaps resurrect the original topic...
Although I (accidentally!) caused this thread to take off in the direction of
"blind community" and now "blind culture", I've mostly kept out of the ensuing
discussion. However, I'd like to j
Okay, I missed most of this thread because I've never cared for
Facebook, Twitter, et al. and frankly hate how they've caused a
decline in more traditional web forums and tend to bring out the worst
in people, but my general thoughts on the "Blind Community" are as
such:
As a general
oysttyer cannot authorize with twitter and I expect all other 3rd party
apps can't authorize either. Got no reply from oysttyer on twitter so
downloaded the app and attempted an authorization and made no mistakes in
entering the authorization url either.
For those predominately using console when
The evidence I found surprising was blind community exists because of
government product orders?
as if only members of this blind community live in the States, and
that to belong some government must be providing your products?
Perhaps this is the "blind culture" mentioned her
applies to some IOS and Android products as well.
One need not be using a system to test that system.
On Mon, 30 Jan 2023, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Le 30/01/2023 à 02:31, Karen a wrot :
Hi,
Fine description.
But my speech is hardware entirely, with no known drivers written
Kyle,
Agreed...looking forward to this answer, though it may be off topic.
The evidence I found surprising was blind community exists because of
government product orders?
as if only members of this blind community live in the States, and that to
belong some government must be providing your
> On Jan 30, 2023, at 08:02, Kyle wrote:
>
> Not sure about Bonfire, but I know Pleroma runs its own Gitlab, so I find it
> absolutely awesome that I won't have to get an account on a Microsoft website
> to report such issues, unless Phoenix itself is hosted on Github or similar.
> ...
Both
boarding schools for the blind in the past and that made
marketing to that created community that much easier.
Jude "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
.
On Mon, 30 Jan 2
And if the blind community doesn't exist, then blind culture couldn't exist
either.
Devin Prater
r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 7:24 PM Linux for blind general discussion <
blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> If the blind community doesn't exist, no blindness ind
Le 30/01/2023 à 02:31, Karen a wrot :
> Hi,
> Fine description.
> But my speech is hardware entirely, with no known drivers written to support
> the synthesizer..or not for Linux
> given this topic started with Orca as the solution, such is even less likely
> to
> exist.
> Karen
Karen,
In
Some Mastodon alternatives (e.g., Bonfire, Pleroma) are based on Elixir and
Phoenix. Chris McCord, the main author of Phoenix, has said that a11y will be
a major focus of his current efforts. So, if anyone is using one of these
platforms and encounters a11y issues, be sure to report them!
-
Devin Prater staggered into view and mumbled:
Thank goodness for Mastodon lol
Problem is I heard that many of the Mastodon front ends were either
going away or being dropped as well. And Mastodon tends to suffer from
some pretty heavy-handed moderation that results in public servers being
Thank goodness for Mastodon lol
Devin Prater
r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
Https://devinprater.micro.blog
> On Jan 29, 2023, at 11:53 PM, Linux for blind general discussion
> wrote:
>
> I'm on twitter with an account so I asked the oysttyer people about their
> project status. S
I'm on twitter with an account so I asked the oysttyer people about their
project status. Something on one of their web pages claimed to have been
unmuzzled by twitter. No date on that post so don't know if that happened
after that article that generated all of the traffic on this list. If I
inclusion, still feels like a rich
direction.
Karen
On Sun, 29 Jan 2023, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
This question was brought up on another list with quite a long thread and
the answer appears to be no. Orca wasn't written to support hardware
synthesizers.
Jude
oysttyer written in perl rainbow-reader written in python and I can't
remember the name of the emacs client all work in console interface or
worked until having been blocked by twitter. It would be useful for any
interested to monitor these projects since one or more of them may
eventually make
owdershelt (Author, 1940)
.
On Sun, 29 Jan 2023, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Is there a way of using this, or any hardware synthesizer with orca?
> Orca is the baseline for these twitter alternatives after all.
> Karen
>
>
>
> On Sun, 29 Jan 2023, Linux for
Is there a way of using this, or any hardware synthesizer with orca?
Orca is the baseline for these twitter alternatives after all.
Karen
On Sun, 29 Jan 2023, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Isn’t it true that you can also use hardware synthesizers with Speech
Dispatcher? I
According to Ryan Mann
Isn’t it true that you can also use hardware synthesizers with Speech
Dispatcher? I thought I remembered seeing modules for synths such as Apollo.
I don't think so. I have seen hardware support in Speakup and available
as Emacspeak servers, but not in
Isn’t it true that you can also use hardware synthesizers with Speech
Dispatcher? I thought I remembered seeing modules for synths such as Apollo.
Ryan Mann
Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
rmann0...@gmail.com
386-383-5175
> On Jan 29, 2023, at 7:43 PM, Linux for bl
Hi,
Fine description.
But my speech is hardware entirely, with no known drivers written to
support the synthesizer..or not for Linux
given this topic started with Orca as the solution, such is even
less likely to exist.
Karen
On Mon, 30 Jan 2023, Linux for blind general discussion wrote
Le 30/01/2023 à 00:40, Karen wrote :
> Speech dispatcher is, to the best of my knowledge, a software speech source
> only.
No. Speech dispatcher takes as input the text sent by screen readers like orca
or fenrir or speechd-up or speechd-el or emacspeak and send it to a speech
synthesizer (like
with main line sources like Apple causes issues.
On Sun, 29 Jan 2023, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
According to Karen:
I cannot use Orca, because the speech synthesis chosen for the program at
the very least causes dizziness for me, and at worse risks episodes
that mirror those
.
many factors fortify why a person uses the technology they choose.
certainly not everyone is a programmer, i. e. develop your own tool for
access.
On Sun, 29 Jan 2023, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
There are different synthesizers that can be used with Orca. I’m assuming you
such a blanket statement somewhat concerning.
I made no blanket statements, and you are also not any kind of expert.
How does this differ from those speaking of a blind community?
Again, I made no blanket statements, I simply pointed out the fact that
use of a more versatile screen reading
of the web sites I
wanted/needed to use were either impossible or inefficient to use with this
browser.
Ryan Mann
Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
rmann0...@gmail.com
386-383-5175
> On Jan 29, 2023, at 5:46 PM, Linux for blind general discussion
> wrote:
>
> Onl
personifies, making
such a blanket statement somewhat concerning.
How does this differ from those speaking of a blind community?
as for the definition of accessible, its a w3c one. Specifically that
tools must be browser device, and user agent agnostic.
Karen
On Sun, 29 Jan 2023, Linux
According to Karen
Yes, the new Twitter owner fired the entire accessibility team, but
how are these services defining accessibility?
First of all, by having API's that allow the applications you choose to
interact with them.
by its actual meaning regardless of technology used, works from
Kyle,
Thanks for echoing some of my thoughts.
I honestly was confused, remain confused by the first posters question.
There is no such thing as a blind community, because blindness is not a
uniformed experience for anyone, at all.
References to quote the blind quote as a composite whole
According to Jude:
If the blind community doesn't exist, no blindness industry can or could
exist either. The marketing of products from that goes out all over and
interest from the community informs and drives Government purchasing
decisions on some very expensive technology.
Yet one more
According to Rich Morin:
I'm delighted to hear that Pleroma is working on improving a11y. I'm
already a big fan of the Elixir language (which Pleroma is based on), so
that's a double win for me...
Pleroma also runs their own Gitlab instead of relying on Microsoft to
host their code, which
If the blind community doesn't exist, no blindness industry can or could
exist either. The marketing of products from that goes out all over and
interest from the community informs and drives Government purchasing
decisions on some very expensive technology. This has been happening
since
I'm delighted to hear that Pleroma is working on improving a11y. I'm already a
big fan of the Elixir language (which Pleroma is based on), so that's a double
win for me...
- Rich Morin
> On Jan 27, 2023, at 16:28, Kyle wrote:
>
> ... [Pleroma](https://pleroma.social) is another that is
Well, first I would say that I am not in "the blind community."
Naturally, I belong to some communities that include or are specific to
people who are blind or visually impaired, but "the blind community"
taken as a whole largely does not exist, nor would I be interested in
The reddit platform is older than twitter and has been accessible for
quite a long time. Android users can get and use red reader which so far
as I know is the best of the reddit clients especially once the
accessibility option in the app gets enabled. I don't know what's
available on windows
023, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Unfortionetly, that is what a twitter client does or used to do. they have
> disaboled thirdparty access to twitter as a resauolt, you could not even get a
> weeb browser to d9o it unless it was the twiter web interface. My windows
> clie
, is the day I will delete my account. I am on mastodon
which a lot of blind users are gravitating to since the CEO has removed
the accessibility team over there.
Matthew
On 1/27/2023 1:58 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
The pity of it is that twitter used to be blind accessible
The pity of it is that twitter used to be blind accessible. Once upon a time I
could use it
with command line scripts and access it with the lynx (the cat) browser.
But all that changed as the web evolved more and more towards hiding links
behind javascript machinations.
The problem
was: [TechTalk] Twitter Bans Third-Party Apps (fwd)
I'm neither blind nor much of a Twitter user, so YMMV. That said...
I wonder what Twitter alternatives (could) exist for blind users. Obviously,
there are mailing lists (such as this one :-), but these mostly appear to be
quite specialized
used in
defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
.
On Tue, 29 Nov 2022, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> As a side noote,
>
>
> If you use workstation, you will need to do some tweeking and switch to x
it is
using, but it is still in testing. Thanks.
Matthew
On 11/28/2022 7:44 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
It is supposed to work. Just press alt+super+s about a minute after
you boot it. You should hear it say "Screen reader on" and everything
should start talking at
It is supposed to work. Just press alt+super+s about a minute after you
boot it. You should hear it say "Screen reader on" and everything should
start talking at that point.
~Kyle
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, convenient keystrokes, not depending on a
desktop environment being set up, etc.
As far as I recall, some blind Linux users including me have been
wanting such a browser for more than ten years, yet such software has
never been developed, which in turn demonstrates one thing I've read in
an article
I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm personally using a Vintage
2016, possibly 2015 flip phone and the only reason I ever connect it
to my computer is because that's the only convenient place to plug in
a USB A to microB cable for charging... and I'd have text messaging
blocked on my phone
Answers inline
So you don't want to be able to connect your phone to your computer and
be able to manage texts, notifications, calls and what ever else from
the computer then?
I can do that. There are fre and open source apps on F-Droid that do
exactly this, that is if I wanted it, though
on even midranged hardware. But I did
join this list to have Linux questions hopefully addressed. The last question I
asked didn't get any answers, boo!
Cheers:
Aaron Spears, AKA Valiant8086 General Partner at Valiant Galaxy Associates "we make
(VERY GOOD AUDIOGAMES) for the blind com
Meh, every other list I'm on, more than a dozen, can show my name
without my email address, so I'm feeling like this is overkill.
Cheers:
Aaron Spears, AKA Valiant8086 General Partner at Valiant Galaxy Associates "we make
(VERY GOOD AUDIOGAMES) for the blind comunity" http://valiant
locations.
Karen
On Thu, 14 Apr 2022, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
That actually makes a lot of sense when it's put like that. See I don't think
showing names or adresses would solve that issue, if anything it'd just rear
its ugly head again. Plus the scraping of email addresses
LOL you knew what I was gonna say before I even read the message. Yeah I
guess all that stuff can be turned off, but even the slowest Linux with
as much stuff installed and running by default as is possible, probably
even tons of docker applications running on it, is much less sluggish
than
Yeah, it's slow and clunky until you run a tweaker tool to turn off a lot of
garbage. And you shouldn't have to do that, before you say so Kyle lol.
- Original Message -
From: Linux for blind general discussion
To: Linux for blind general discussion
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 17:15:22
I could. I'll probably try that at some point again, since I know I'm not
going to want to be installing and uninstalling desktos and such, pretty
much settled on Mate. But Fedora shouldn't be *that* bad.
Devin Prater
r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 4:25 PM Linux for blind
Well Devin, Fedora being a way for RH to test new versions of software before
they include them in RH and provide new release often, no wonder if you find
some issues.
Maybe you could try Debian?
Didier
Le 14/04/2022 à 21:56, Linux for blind general discussion a écrit :
> Because Fed
Yeah, lots of stuff like that, trying to regain the web 1.0 vibe. I do wish
NeoCities had used SSH/SFTP or something, that would have been a bit easier
to get into. But I have WSL so it's all good.
Devin Prater
r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 4:16 PM Linux for blind general
I thought Geocities itself came back, or got forked and came back, or,
something like that? There's at least two or three, oocities, neocities,
geocities.ws, et al really...
On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 04:11:46PM -0500, Linux for blind general discussion
wrote:
> Win11 uses less system resour
Years since I used it on a regular basis, but it's only been a couple of
weeks since I used it for any purpose at all, and it's slow. Very slow,
especially compared to what I'm used to using. I still don't want to
have anything to do with Microsoft and their shady business practices,
but the
that Windows hasn't fixed. But my thing is accessibility; I
just can't let idiology override the need for good, solid accessibility.
Usually. Android is another story, and is actually improving.
Devin Prater
r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 4:05 PM Linux for blind general discussion
For what it's worth, I did find Windows XP far more stable than any of
the Win9x family... and Windows 2000 more stable than XP when I threw
it on the family computer around the time Vista came out... and the
few times I've had to use a Win 7 machine it didn't give me any
trouble... though
Oh, well yeah I don't use Outlook, I use the Gmail web app.
Devin Prater
r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 3:53 PM Linux for blind general discussion <
blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> We have a machine here running Windows 10. It can be flaky--not so much
> the oper
for blind general discussion wrote:
Wow. None of that happens anymore. It's been years since you've used
Windows, it seems.
Devin Prater
r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 3:08 PM Linux for blind general discussion <
blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
Also Windows just works. Nothin
ot; I can only
hope and try to work at it.
Al
On 4/14/22 14:11, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Al, to be fair I'm not sure when you last tried Mutt, ut I've run across a lot
of sample configs that are just copy into a text file and plug your info in and
save as .muttrc in your home
On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 04:45:03PM +0200, Linux for blind general discussion
wrote:
> I beg to differ. I am registered to several mailing lists, none of them hide
> the
> names or addresses in the messages themselves (but they do hide part of the
> email address in the archives).
Wow. None of that happens anymore. It's been years since you've used
Windows, it seems.
Devin Prater
r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 3:08 PM Linux for blind general discussion <
blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> Also Windows just works. Nothing just crashes out o
Also Windows just works. Nothing just crashes out of nowhere,
When did that start happening? I always found just sitting down at a
Microsoft computer to be a wrestling match. Random crashes usually at
just the wrong time, many hoops to jump through just to do things I took
for granted even
it's annoying how many services insist on using a person's e-mail
address or phone number as a unique
identifier... its one thing if they have legitimate reason to contact you
outside of their platform, but there's plenty that would function just fine
knowing nothing about me beyond my
a
subsystem for Android now so I can run Android apps like Pocketcast. Of
course, if Linux worked for me I could just use GPodder. Ah well.
Devin Prater
r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 12:05 PM Linux for blind general discussion <
blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> Kyle and I
to several sample ones to
use. Thoughh I'm still unsure if anyone's made sensible modern keybinds or
emaccs/emacspeak however, I've no clue where to even begin with that with the
sheer amount of keys/keystrokes that'd need changing up
On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 02:01:27PM -0400, Linux for blind general
, Linux for blind general discussion
wrote
> Forgot to mention, but yeah, it's annoying how many services insist on
> using a person's e-mail address or phone number as a unique
> identifier... its one thing if they have legitimate reason to contact
> you outside of their platform,
, and possibly Mutt, but now I don't feel like such a dummy for
having had trouble with this software in my early and even later days
with Linux.
Best!
Al
On 4/13/22 19:34, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
These debates can be both informative and useful for those new to linux
who
Forgot to mention, but yeah, it's annoying how many services insist on
using a person's e-mail address or phone number as a unique
identifier... its one thing if they have legitimate reason to contact
you outside of their platform, but there's plenty that would function
just fine knowing nothing
In that case, take your attention-loving self to a Microsoft list
instead of trying to advertise for them here. This is a Linux-related
list, not a Microsoft list. We don't want or need the commercial
advertisements here.
~Kyle
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as a
conditioned counter balance to all the people on the Internet who over
quote... and my annoyance with over quoting likely was older when I
went blind than my blindness is now, though the inability to just tune
out the quotes and scroll past has only reinforced said annoyance.
As for being "
Kyle and I get good, stable Linux systems however though Devin. What happened
to you being the voice for oh just install Fedora, and use emacs. Why the
sudden shift to MS's side of things then?
On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 11:14:29AM -0500, Linux for blind general discussion
wrote:
> Sir,
to
change from whatever it is you're using. Like when I talked about Gemini
and such. Also I don't *love* Microsoft. I get from them a good, stable
system with community support by blind users and developers. And in return,
they get whatever data they can out of my computer use. Personally
Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 11:05:50AM
-0400, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Please try this in a VM first. I tried to dualboot once, it didn't work,
>
>
> That's because Microsoft still thinks they're the shizz and they overwrite
> your sensible bootloader with their o
Please try this in a VM first. I tried to dualboot once, it didn't work,
That's because Microsoft still thinks they're the shizz and they
overwrite your sensible bootloader with their own. The virtual machine
is in fact your best bet, and I would take this one step further and say
just
OK enough with the Microsoft commercials. We are past tired of them by
now. We see more than enough of them on TV. What happened to your
beloved EMACS? You will not convince anyone here that your new-found
love of Microsoft is any good for anyone. Go crawl back into your
microsoft hole and
They can use their phone number instead.
What? You want me to give my phone number to Microsoft? That'll be the
damn day for sure. My cell phone number is something I won't give out to
companies I don't trust, and the companies I don't trust don't like
disposable ones. Forget that. I'll
I'd like to know why identities are not revealed, I have my guesses,
privacy, security, avoiding harvesting by bots and being suddenly
swarmed with spam just for posting on a list...but it'd be good to know
the reason why from the horse's mouth, so to speak.
Well, I'm not the horse, but I
unsubscribe.
Have a good day,
Didier
Le 14/04/2022 à 16:06, Linux for blind general discussion a écrit :
> That actually makes a lot of sense when it's put like that. See I don't think
> showing names or adresses would solve that issue, if anything it'd just rear
> its ugly head again. Plus the
That actually makes a lot of sense when it's put like that. See I don't think
showing names or adresses would solve that issue, if anything it'd just rear
its ugly head again. Plus the scraping of email addresses, too.i
On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 06:53:59AM -0700, Linux for blind general
Many years ago, whenever myself-and-others would post here, almost immediately
a graphic language reply from a spammer would get sent. So eventually hiding
our mail addresses solved those issues.
Chime
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You don't draw a line anywhere. People are going to use their computers however
they want and trying to segregate them by category doesn't make much sense.
Deaf people need specialized phones. Quadroplegic people need specialized
hardware. Deaf Blind people need braille. So what? Getting upset
, Linux for blind general discussion
wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 08:37:19AM +0200, Linux for blind general discussion
> wrote:
> > I am Didier Spaier, Slint maintainer and sighted.
>
> hello Didier.
>
> > I am frustrated not to be able to follow this
Also true as far as that goes, so where do you draw that line then?
On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 08:03:38AM -0500, Linux for blind general discussion
wrote:
> That can be said for any specialized software. High end photo editing
> software is really only good for that special niche group for e
On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 08:37:19AM +0200, Linux for blind general discussion
wrote:
> I am Didier Spaier, Slint maintainer and sighted.
hello Didier.
> I am frustrated not to be able to follow this discussion as I would like, as
> in
> most cases I do not know who speaks, answe
That can be said for any specialized software. High end photo editing software
is really only good for that special niche group for example. And they have to
go out of their way to buy it and install it.
- Original Message -
From: Linux for blind general discussion
To: Linux for blind
See to me, I see Orca as part of the installed system, not some special app you
have to go install a laJaws or NVDA on Windows however.
So to me, no, Orca's a part of the distro that helps out disabled (Not just
blind) users however. Something like Fenrir that you have to go out of your
Hmmm, interesting, about "the blind" and being human.
I have no problem with it anyway, because I just wonder: "The blind" has
and will always refer to humans and not some animals.
Then about blind-specific products: the Orca you are using on the
computer is certainly a
however.
Now I just need to quit being lazy and set up a signature for my messages.
On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 02:05:39AM -0700, Linux for blind general discussion
wrote:
> Well, Didier, I am Chime-and-I-and-a majority of folks identify at an end of
> messages, before the list headers. I for one
Well, Didier, I am Chime-and-I-and-a majority of folks identify at an end of
messages, before the list headers. I for one almost never quote, as for me,
listening to several lines of text which I've already heard are seemingly a
waste of time. In alpine I have quoting set at a loest level, but
, Apr 14, 2022 at 01:32:19AM -0500, Linux for blind general discussion
wrote:
> They can use their phone number instead.
> Devin Prater
> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 5:20 PM Linux for blind general discussion <
> blinux-list@redh
uff. But nope.
Devin Prater
r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 9:32 PM Linux for blind general discussion <
blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> I don't have anything against projects specifically targetting blind
> end users, or any other niche for that matter, but
Thankfully, the place I work at teaches NVDA unless JAWS is absolutely
needed. We don't want our students going home and not even being able to
afford JAWS if they're not going into college or something.
Devin Prater
r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 8:03 PM Linux for blind
on these things, because it gives us some of the speed that a
sighted person gets from widgets and such.
Devin Prater
r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 7:31 PM Linux for blind general discussion <
blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> Kyle, I'm unsure on something. Not anything you said...
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