Re: [Bloat] [Ecn-sane] My (controversial) position paper on TCP

2019-03-20 Thread Dave Collier-Brown
Super, much appreciated! My thoughts about "effective lifetime" just got a long tail, possibly sufficient to wag the dog (:-)) Do you think we should be shifting to v6, and keeping v4 nearly invariant to address the long tail? --dave On 2019-03-20 6:28 p.m., Jonathan Morton wrote: > I still

Re: [Bloat] [Ecn-sane] My (controversial) position paper on TCP

2019-03-20 Thread David Lang
On Wed, 20 Mar 2019, David Collier-Brown wrote: On 2019-03-20 4:29 p.m., David Lang wrote: On Wed, 20 Mar 2019, David Collier-Brown wrote: On 2019-03-20 10:28 a.m., Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: This isn't a resource problem, it's a code problem. The IETF wants 10-15 year old hosts to be

Re: [Bloat] [Ecn-sane] My (controversial) position paper on TCP

2019-03-20 Thread Jonathan Morton
I still have a functioning "UFO"-style Apple Airport Base Station from about 2000. I no longer have a convenient means of reconfiguring it (relies on a real Mac within a certain range of vintages), let alone updating its firmware, if Apple bothered to do that any more. A lot of those died

Re: [Bloat] [Ecn-sane] My (controversial) position paper on TCP

2019-03-20 Thread David Collier-Brown
On 2019-03-20 4:29 p.m., David Lang wrote: On Wed, 20 Mar 2019, David Collier-Brown wrote: On 2019-03-20 10:28 a.m., Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: This isn't a resource problem, it's a code problem. The IETF wants 10-15 year old hosts to be able to connect to a network and perform basic

Re: [Bloat] [Ecn-sane] My (controversial) position paper on TCP

2019-03-20 Thread David Lang
On Wed, 20 Mar 2019, David Collier-Brown wrote: On 2019-03-20 10:28 a.m., Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: This isn't a resource problem, it's a code problem. The IETF wants 10-15 year old hosts to be able to connect to a network and perform basic networking. It might not be very optimized, but

Re: [Bloat] [Ecn-sane] My (controversial) position paper on TCP

2019-03-20 Thread David Collier-Brown
On 2019-03-20 10:28 a.m., Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2019, Dave Taht wrote: Another ietf idea that makes me crazy is the motto of "no host changes" in homenet, and "dumb endpoints" - when we live in an age where we have quad cores and AI coprocessors in everybody's hands. Dumb

Re: [Bloat] [Ecn-sane] My (controversial) position paper on TCP

2019-03-20 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Mon, 18 Mar 2019, Dave Taht wrote: Another ietf idea that makes me crazy is the motto of "no host changes" in homenet, and "dumb endpoints" - when we live in an age where we have quad cores and AI coprocessors in everybody's hands. This isn't a resource problem, it's a code problem. The