Re: [Bloat] Fixing bufferbloat: How about an open letter to the web benchmarkers?

2014-09-12 Thread Jesper Dangaard Brouer
On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 20:13:19 -0400 Rich Brown richb.hano...@gmail.com wrote: I'll sign too. (And I like the 98th percentile measure for each direction to give a single number that represents what's happening. It could include ping loss rate, as well...) I'll sign too. The 98th percentile

Re: [Bloat] Fixing bufferbloat: How about an open letter to the web benchmarkers?

2014-09-12 Thread Rich Brown
On Sep 12, 2014, at 3:17 AM, Jesper Dangaard Brouer jbro...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 20:13:19 -0400 Rich Brown richb.hano...@gmail.com wrote: I'll sign too. (And I like the 98th percentile measure for each direction to give a single number that represents what's happening. It

Re: [Bloat] Fixing bufferbloat: How about an open letter to the web benchmarkers?

2014-09-12 Thread Jesper Dangaard Brouer
On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 08:16:46 -0400 Rich Brown richb.hano...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 12, 2014, at 3:17 AM, Jesper Dangaard Brouer jbro...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 20:13:19 -0400 Rich Brown richb.hano...@gmail.com wrote: [...] The 98th percentile latency is of-cause

[Bloat] Fixing bufferbloat: How about an open letter to the web benchmarkers?

2014-09-11 Thread Dave Taht
The theme of networks being engineered for speedtest has been a common thread in nearly every conversation I've had with ISPs and vendors using every base technology out there, be it dsl, cable, ethernet, or fiber, for the last 4 years. Perhaps, in pursuing better code, and RFCs, and the like,

Re: [Bloat] Fixing bufferbloat: How about an open letter to the web benchmarkers?

2014-09-11 Thread Pedro Tumusok
Would it be possible to create this alternative test site, to show end users that speed is not everything. If you get a result with some comments, ala netalyzr, most people would probably be happy with that? Or just a netalyzr lite maybe? Pedro On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Dave Taht

Re: [Bloat] Fixing bufferbloat: How about an open letter to the web benchmarkers?

2014-09-11 Thread Rich Brown
Dave, I'll sign too. (And I like the 98th percentile measure for each direction to give a single number that represents what's happening. It could include ping loss rate, as well...) But more importantly, an open letter would likely be more powerful than the results I got from sending a note