Re: [Bloat] [LibreQoS] [Rpm] [Starlink] On FiWi

2023-03-14 Thread rjmcmahon via Bloat
I am old fashioned this way, also, but I think most modern users would not care, any more about this. They are used to pretty much having all their data exposed to the internet, available via cellphone, and used to having their security cameras and other personal information, gone, out there.

Re: [Bloat] [LibreQoS] [Rpm] [Starlink] On FiWi

2023-03-14 Thread Dave Taht via Bloat
On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 12:18 PM dan via Bloat wrote: > > end users are still going to want their own router/firewall. I am old fashioned this way, also, but I think most modern users would not care, any more about this. They are used to pretty much having all their data exposed to the internet,

Re: [Bloat] [LibreQoS] [Rpm] [Starlink] On FiWi

2023-03-14 Thread rjmcmahon via Bloat
The design has to be flexible so DIY w/local firewall is fine. I'll disagree though that early & late majority care about firewalls. They want high-quality access that is secure & private. Both of these require high skill network engineers on staff. DIY is hard here. Intrusion detection

Re: [Bloat] [LibreQoS] [Rpm] [Starlink] On FiWi

2023-03-14 Thread dan via Bloat
end users are still going to want their own router/firewall. That's my point, I don't see how you can have that on-prem firewall while having a remote radio that's useful. I would adamantly oppose anyone I know passing their firewall off to the upstream vendor. I run an MSP and I would offer a

Re: [Bloat] [LibreQoS] [Rpm] [Starlink] On FiWi

2023-03-14 Thread Robert McMahon via Bloat
It's not  discrete routers. It's more like a transceiver. WiFi is already splitting at the MAC for MLO. I perceive two choices for the split, one at the PHY DAC or, two, a minimalist 802.3 tunneling of 802.11 back to the FiWi head end. Use 802.3 to leverage merchant silicon supporting up to 200

Re: [Bloat] [LibreQoS] [Rpm] [Starlink] On FiWi

2023-03-14 Thread dan via Bloat
> You could always do it yourself. > > Most people need high skilled network engineers to provide them IT services. > This need is only going to grow and grow. We can help by producing better and > simpler offerings, be they DIY or by service providers. > > Steve Job's almost didn't support the