Re: [board-discuss] LOOL user experience

2020-05-22 Thread Cor Nouws
Cor Nouws wrote on 22/05/2020 23:57: > So please let's investigate how it works out in practice ;) Ah well, sure, but maybe it's better to wait for the information, write up, that has been promised by Paolo, Michael, Franklin and Thorsten in today's meeting. So let me shut up for now :) Cheers,

Re: [board-discuss] LOOL user experience

2020-05-22 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Daniel, Daniel Armando Rodriguez wrote on 22/05/2020 23:33: > El 2020-05-22 17:26, Cor Nouws escribió: >> It would be good to hear what you think of today's board meeting, and >> what has been presented there about community health and ecosystem. >> (Well, we tried to chat later, but kitchen

Re: [board-discuss] LOOL user experience

2020-05-22 Thread Daniel Armando Rodriguez
El 2020-05-22 17:26, Cor Nouws escribió: Hi Daniel, Daniel Armando Rodriguez wrote on 22/05/2020 22:49: What makes my worry is the response you got about C'bora under TDF's IRC It would be good to hear what you think of today's board meeting, and what has been presented there about

Re: [board-discuss] LOOL user experience

2020-05-22 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Daniel, Daniel Armando Rodriguez wrote on 22/05/2020 22:49: > What makes my worry is the response you got about C'bora under TDF's IRC It would be good to hear what you think of today's board meeting, and what has been presented there about community health and ecosystem. (Well, we tried to

Re: [board-discuss] LOOL user experience

2020-05-22 Thread Daniel Armando Rodriguez
El 2020-05-22 16:05, Andras Timar escribió: Hi, On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 8:40 PM Marco Marinello - Mailing lists wrote: This was totally a pain. The lack of any consistent documentation (until May 5 in the INSTALL file there was just written "Left as an exercise to the reader") was one

Re: [board-discuss] LOOL user experience

2020-05-22 Thread Simon Phipps
On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 9:56 PM Andras Timar wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 10:29 PM Simon Phipps wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 9:06 PM Andras Timar wrote: >> >>> I disagree. It's a myth. Yes, it can be hard, when firewalls, load >>> balancers, 5 users etc. are

Re: [board-discuss] LOOL user experience

2020-05-22 Thread Andras Timar
Hi, On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 10:29 PM Simon Phipps wrote: > Hi! > > On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 9:06 PM Andras Timar wrote: > >> I disagree. It's a myth. Yes, it can be hard, when firewalls, load >> balancers, 5 users etc. are involved. It's the case when one needs >> professional support. But

Re: [board-discuss] LOOL user experience

2020-05-22 Thread Daniel Armando Rodriguez
El 2020-05-22 15:22, Ilmari Lauhakangas escribió: Cor Nouws kirjoitti 22.5.2020 klo 22.15: Hi Marco, Marco Marinello - Mailing lists wrote on 22/05/2020 20:39: Therefore, I totally endorse Paolo's proposal. TDF should, in my opinion, definitely release working stable binaries of online. Many

Re: [board-discuss] LOOL user experience

2020-05-22 Thread Daniel Armando Rodriguez
El 2020-05-22 14:39, Marco Marinello - Mailing lists escribió: Hi all, in September 2019, to get another project up and running (in which the main component is NextCloud), I found myself working on LibreOffice Online. This was totally a pain. The lack of any consistent documentation (until

Re: [board-discuss] LOOL user experience

2020-05-22 Thread Daniel Armando Rodriguez
El 2020-05-22 12:30, Simon Phipps escribió: On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 4:37 PM Daniel Armando Rodriguez wrote: El 2020-05-22 10:33, Heiko Tietze escribió: On 22.05.20 16:09, Simon Phipps wrote: A survey form would be the best way to go a about it Happy to support this but no idea how to

Re: [board-discuss] LOOL user experience

2020-05-22 Thread Simon Phipps
Hi! On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 9:06 PM Andras Timar wrote: > I disagree. It's a myth. Yes, it can be hard, when firewalls, load > balancers, 5 users etc. are involved. It's the case when one needs > professional support. But for the hobbyist, how hard is it to install CODE > with a few clicks

Re: [board-discuss] LOOL user experience

2020-05-22 Thread Andras Timar
Hi, On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 8:40 PM Marco Marinello - Mailing lists < li...@marcomarinello.it> wrote: > This was totally a pain. The lack of any consistent documentation (until > May 5 in the INSTALL file there was just written "Left as an exercise to > the reader") was one of the biggest

Re: [board-discuss] LOOL user experience

2020-05-22 Thread Ilmari Lauhakangas
Cor Nouws kirjoitti 22.5.2020 klo 22.15: Hi Marco, Marco Marinello - Mailing lists wrote on 22/05/2020 20:39: Therefore, I totally endorse Paolo's proposal. TDF should, in my opinion, definitely release working stable binaries of online. Many many associations out there don't have the money

Re: [board-discuss] LOOL user experience

2020-05-22 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Marco, Marco Marinello - Mailing lists wrote on 22/05/2020 20:39: > Therefore, I totally endorse Paolo's proposal. TDF should, in my > opinion, definitely release working stable binaries of online. Many many > associations out there don't have the money or simply don't need a > professional

Re: [board-discuss] LOOL user experience

2020-05-22 Thread Marco Marinello - Mailing lists
Hi all, in September 2019, to get another project up and running (in which the main component is NextCloud), I found myself working on LibreOffice Online. This was totally a pain. The lack of any consistent documentation (until May 5 in the INSTALL file there was just written "Left as an

Re: [board-discuss] LOOL user experience

2020-05-22 Thread Simon Phipps
On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 4:37 PM Daniel Armando Rodriguez < drodrig...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > El 2020-05-22 10:33, Heiko Tietze escribió: > > On 22.05.20 16:09, Simon Phipps wrote: > >> A survey form would be the best way to go a about it > > > > Happy to support this but no idea how to

Re: [board-discuss] LOOL user experience

2020-05-22 Thread Daniel Armando Rodriguez
El 2020-05-22 11:52, Thorsten Behrens escribió: Hi Heiko, all, Heiko Tietze wrote: So what I'd need for a survey is a couple of simple questions that everybody can answer. My preferred type of question is multiple-choice with additional "Other" option. Thus my (perhaps unintuitive)

Re: [board-discuss] LOOL user experience

2020-05-22 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi Heiko, all, Heiko Tietze wrote: > So what I'd need for a survey is a couple of simple questions that > everybody can answer. My preferred type of question is > multiple-choice with additional "Other" option. > Thus my (perhaps unintuitive) suggestion to start discussing the details on the

Re: [board-discuss] LOOL user experience

2020-05-22 Thread Daniel Armando Rodriguez
El 2020-05-22 10:09, Simon Phipps escribió: A survey form would be the best way to go about it. Also note that - regardless of package availability - as conceived Libreoffice Online is beyond the scope of most individuals as it requires access to cloud infrastructure, familiarity with

Re: [board-discuss] LOOL user experience

2020-05-22 Thread Daniel Armando Rodriguez
El 2020-05-22 10:33, Heiko Tietze escribió: On 22.05.20 16:09, Simon Phipps wrote: A survey form would be the best way to go a about it Happy to support this but no idea how to start. Ordinary users cannot answer "What's the best solution for you to get LOOL?" neither "Which kind of

Re: [board-discuss] LOOL user experience

2020-05-22 Thread Daniel Armando Rodriguez
El 2020-05-22 09:34, Thorsten Behrens escribió: Hi Daniel, all, Daniel Armando Rodriguez wrote: I believe we should know what people expects when downloading a docker img, if it fits the needing or what do they have to deal with. Depends on who's the target audience of that question, I

Re: [board-discuss] LOOL user experience

2020-05-22 Thread Heiko Tietze
On 22.05.20 16:09, Simon Phipps wrote: > A survey form would be the best way to go a about it Happy to support this but no idea how to start. Ordinary users cannot answer "What's the best solution for you to get LOOL?" neither "Which kind of authentication do you prefer? [OpenFoo, LibreBar,

Re: [board-discuss] LOOL user experience

2020-05-22 Thread Simon Phipps
A survey form would be the best way to go about it. Also note that - regardless of package availability - as conceived Libreoffice Online is beyond the scope of most individuals as it requires access to cloud infrastructure, familiarity with certificates and a willingness to manage web security.

Re: [board-discuss] LOOL user experience

2020-05-22 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi Daniel, all, Daniel Armando Rodriguez wrote: > I believe we should know what people expects when downloading a > docker img, if it fits the needing or what do they have to deal > with. > Depends on who's the target audience of that question, I guess. Possibly the design, or the website list

[board-discuss] LOOL user experience

2020-05-22 Thread Daniel Armando Rodriguez
I'd like to collect experiences on deployment LOOL as it's offered right now and what people think need to be improved. I believe we should know what people expects when downloading a docker img, if it fits the needing or what do they have to deal with. -- Daniel Armando Rodriguez --

Re: [board-discuss] Update to today's call agenda

2020-05-22 Thread Simon Phipps
On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 9:40 AM Florian Effenberger < flo...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > > > * Wrt. item #4 (vote proposal), this item will be turned into a > discussion item. The rationale for this is that more input from the > community is sought, before the item can be turned into a vote.

Re: [board-discuss] Update to today's call agenda

2020-05-22 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Florian, It looks as if you missed my mail from this morning. That's unfortunate. But, can you please help me: Florian Effenberger wrote on 22/05/2020 10:39: > * Additionally, a conflict of interest accusation was made. The board Who made that accusation, where and when? Thanks a lot for

[board-discuss] Update to today's call agenda

2020-05-22 Thread Florian Effenberger
Dear community, find below a quick update to today's call agenda: * Wrt. item #4 (vote proposal), this item will be turned into a discussion item. The rationale for this is that more input from the community is sought, before the item can be turned into a vote. We will in parallel get input