Hi Ilmari, all,
Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote:
> I'm thinking of what will be written in the job posting. If the
> title contains "mentor" and mentoring will be central in the job
> description, it will scare devs away.
>
Yeah, I agree that past job postings were perhaps over-specific there.
The docum
On 23.5.2022 20.42, Jan Holesovsky wrote:
Ilmari Lauhakangas píše v Po 23. 05. 2022 v 20:08 +0300:
* Hire a Targeted Developer, with primary focus on mentoring
If mentoring is put in the center, it seriously limits the pool of
applicants. Most devs who could apply will simply skip it. We know
Hi Ilmari,
Ilmari Lauhakangas píše v Po 23. 05. 2022 v 20:08 +0300:
> > * Hire a Targeted Developer, with primary focus on mentoring
>
> If mentoring is put in the center, it seriously limits the pool of
> applicants. Most devs who could apply will simply skip it. We know
> this
> from the exp
On 23.5.2022 19.36, Michael Meeks wrote:
* So I propose:
* Hire a Targeted Developer, with primary focus on mentoring
If mentoring is put in the center, it seriously limits the pool of
applicants. Most devs who could apply will simply skip it. We know this
from the experience in 2017-2021 an
Hi everyone,
Let me try to provide a simpler proposal that combines several
ideas from the thread and focuses on clarifying the management
aspect. Hopefully as an E-mail it is easier to interact with the
content.
* Rationale
A selection of points from Paolo's discussion on the l
Hi Olivier,
Olivier Hallot wrote on 17/05/2022 18:03:
I have updated the tender document with the valuable inputs received.
My gratitude to C. Strobbe, S. Mohn and T. Vajngerl for their comments.
The tender document file is now
https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/Gxw82TWcCWiXRBq
for m
HI,
On 23/05/2022 14:01, Cor Nouws wrote:
Hi Paolo,
Paolo Vecchi wrote on 23/05/2022 13:07:
On 23/05/2022 12:57, Cor Nouws wrote:
It is not the responsibility of the board to micromanage the team.
To evaluate the quality of your proposal.
It would have been the responsibility of other f
Hi Xisco,
Xisco Fauli wrote on 11/05/2022 16:50:
The board would like to work together in public with all of you on this
job posting before it gets officially published. The current draft is
therefore shared at
https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/PsGnyGHBXmjzmqB
Thanks for that.
I'v
Hi,
On 23/05/2022 14:30, Thorsten Behrens wrote:
Can I repeat my request to get a small group (e.g. Paolo, Kendy as
representatives of the two opposing sides here) to first agree on a
workable process, to quickly iterate the proposal to something we can
all support?
First of all, why are you s
Hi all,
Florian Effenberger wrote on 23/05/2022 10:38:
Florian Effenberger wrote on 23.05.22 at 10:37:
thanks a lot for your feedback, everyone, and thanks a lot Ilmari for
driving this!
The latest version is available at
https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/CSzrtsKJt4GKY7P
For any
Hi Paolo, hi Kendy, all,
Paolo Vecchi wrote:
> > Hence my proposal for another approach, that can well result in a
> > similar situation, but that you sadly didn't respond to for the third or
> > fourth time.
>
> You stated that I should have answered questions, that in my opinion are
> answered
Hi Paolo,
Paolo Vecchi wrote on 23/05/2022 13:07:
On 23/05/2022 12:57, Cor Nouws wrote:
It is not the responsibility of the board to micromanage the team.
To evaluate the quality of your proposal.
It would have been the responsibility of other fellow members of the
board to contribute to
On 23/05/2022 12:57, Cor Nouws wrote:
It is not the responsibility of the board to micromanage the team.
To evaluate the quality of your proposal.
It would have been the responsibility of other fellow members of the
board to contribute to a proposal but you may have noticed that the
comm
Paolo Vecchi wrote on 23/05/2022 12:49:
Hi Cor,
On 23/05/2022 12:37, Cor Nouws wrote:
It is the boards responsibility to evaluate that.
It is not the responsibility of the board to micromanage the team.
To evaluate the quality of your proposal.
The board has an employees oversight group
Hi Cor,
On 23/05/2022 12:37, Cor Nouws wrote:
It is the boards responsibility to evaluate that.
It is not the responsibility of the board to micromanage the team.
The board has an employees oversight group which already conducts
appraisals which, when conducted in a fair and objective way, h
Hi Paolo,
Paolo Vecchi wrote on 23/05/2022 11:39:
part of the process of providing constructive feedback is to evaluate
objectively the information available and then propose improvements.
Then who says what is objective evaluation and what is not?
...
As described in the document I'm sure
Hi Cor,
On 23/05/2022 02:03, Cor Nouws wrote:
I think clarifying this is useful. From what I have read, I could
easily conclude that mails that give ideas on where developers could
work on, are considered to be 'constructive feedback', and that mails
with questions about how we the work of and
Hello,
Florian Effenberger wrote on 23.05.22 at 10:37:
thanks a lot for your feedback, everyone, and thanks a lot Ilmari for
driving this!
The latest version is available at
https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/CSzrtsKJt4GKY7P
For any last comments and edits, please send them in by F
Hello,
thanks a lot for your feedback, everyone, and thanks a lot Ilmari for
driving this!
The latest version is available at
https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/CSzrtsKJt4GKY7P
For any last comments and edits, please send them in by Friday this
week. We then will finalize the job p
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