Will close the list and proceed with the migration after posting this.
The new discussion platform should eventually show up at
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On Sat, 1 Apr 2023 at 18:15, Andreas Mantke wrote:
> also in Germany. And this common sense law includes e.g. the rule that
> nobody could be a judge in own cases, which covers the whole process
> including the discussion of the case inside the decision-making body.
>
>
No, this is not the law. P
tion.
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instruct an impartial and objective CoI evaluation for
all the members of the board and the adoption of clear fiduciary
duties that all board members must follow to remove the doubts that
members of the board of trustees are expressing.
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On 31/03/2023 16:35, Cor Nouws wrote:
Hi Andreas, all,
Andreas Mantke wrote on 30/03/2023 14:28:
Am 29.03.23 um 15:58 schrieb Cor Nouws:
A personal interest is not a conflict of interest which in general is
not a reason to abstain from discussing topics.
sorry to be very c
g process about the three topics you declared an
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ways and it's a source of frequent frictions as threads show on
board-discuss and elsewhere.
By stating that a director which declared a personal interest can
participate to the discussion and influence board decisions on topics
Hi all,
On 31/03/2023 02:16, Thorsten Behrens wrote:
2. Status Report, Discuss: Update on formalising board fiduciary
duties (Paolo Vecchi, Cor Nouws, 5 mins)
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> Am 29.03.23 um 15:58 schrieb Cor Nouws:
> > A personal interest is not a conflict of interest which in general is
> > not a reason to abstain from discussing topics.
> >
> sorry to be very clear here: I've never read or heard such nonsense
> inside o
nd decision) of the corresponding topics. This is important
because otherwise you violate obligations as board member and create
liabilities.
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but without any answer from the chair.
The statement above from the call is a commonplace but
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* Someone to start recording via Chrome *
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what is the reason for this biting tone of your reply?
Thorsten's reply is not biting, neither I read Cor's question as aggressive why
you ask. The answer with keeping the show running is reasonable given the
challenges we face, although a bit pity for
st year?
That a chair of the board and its meetings are able to run a successful
decision making process seemed to be nothing outstanding (important). It
is the usual job description.
But there is enough space in the other thread
(https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/2023
Hi Andreas, dear list.
Andreas Mantke wrote:
> I sense it very disturbing that the board put this topic on the agenda
> and the chairman was not able to answer an easy and clear question from
> the community during the call.
>
Full minutes are due soon, excerpt below to clarify:
* What has been
d the foundation. This
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Hi,
the Board of Directors at the time of voting consists of 7 seat
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needs to have 1/2 or more of the Board of Directors members, which
gives 4.
A total of 4 Board of Directors members have participated in the vote.
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I wrote:
> Dear board,
>
> as discussed during the last board call, it would help with producing
> better-quality minutes, if audio recordings would be available.
>
> Motion: ask Infra to setup a Jitsi recording facility for the TDF
> board room as soon as possible. Recordings should be made
+1Ayhan YALÃINSOY, Member of the Board of DirectorsThe Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DEGemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen RechtsLegal details: https://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint2 Mar 2023 23:08 tarihinde Thorsten Behrens yazdı:Dear board,
Hi Guilhem, all,
Guilhem Moulin wrote:
> Note that jitsi has a “start recording” button (AFAICT only working
> on Chrome ATM, but available to anyone that's logged in). Files can
> then be downloaded locally, and later uploaded to BoD-shared
> storage.
>
Ah nice, that would be good enough for me
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> Motion: ask Infra to setup a Jitsi recording facility for the TDF
> board room as soon as possible. Recordings should be made available
> only to the board, in particular when private or sensitive topics are
> discussed.
Uh that seem
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Dear board,
as discussed during the last board call, it would help with producing
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Motion: ask Infra to setup a Jitsi recording facility for the TDF
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. The majority threshold is currently 4.
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Done, also shared with Cloph
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I remember Sophie Gautier mentioning the process that TDF went through
to get an encryption certificate for LibreOffice for ANSSI:
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I just found out that new requirement has rolled out globally and
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1. Call to order & Roll Call
The meeting took place on 2022-12-30.
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Hi Andreas, all,
Andreas Mantke wrote:
> If you are not able to share the basics and answer the questions, you
> are not able to fulfill your function.
>
I think Cor just offered to publish more details. Can we please wait
for that?
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I have to admit that I haven't checked the vote totals when published
internally and only now I realise that the totals are wrong.
While I notified the board that in my opinion the expenditure is
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a CoC team, with
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finessing wrt non-important bits for TDF (Thorsten)
* importance of Bugzilla, if fairly balanced, no problem at all (Cor)
* Final decision for WollMux adoption proposal? (Marina)
* previous board decision, no opposition nor concerns on
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So, currently still not visible/available for French-based Apple store.
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Hi Alex, some people see LibreOffice in the Apple Store, and some
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are investigating with Apple. The new version 7.4.4 was approved, and
has been uploaded without is
Hi Alex, some people see LibreOffice in the Apple Store, and some don't
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investigating with Apple. The new version 7.4.4 was approved, and has
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An: Thorsten Behrens; TDF Board Discussion; Björn Ranft
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Betreff: Re: [board-discuss] WollMux adoption proposal for The Document
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Am 02.01.23 um 10:37 schrieb Thorsten Behrens:
- wollmux-config-service (not used in WollMux yet, might be
o answer the question. In summary, the past months
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wollmux-conf-service is a server side helper to deliver user specific
conf files (to avoid deploying different wollmux.conf manual
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bject with [WollMux]?
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Von: Thorsten Behrens
Gesendet: Montag, 2. Januar 2023 13:26
An: Marina Latini
Cc: TDF Board Discussion
Betreff: Re: [board-discuss] WollMux adoption proposal for The Document
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Hi Marina, all,
Marina Latini wrote:
> No n
Hi Marina, all,
Marina Latini wrote:
> No no, it makes sense to keep WollMux under the LibreOffice org, I agree. If
> you are fine with the current status, can we start to work on WollMux?
>
I'd love to! :)
(Gabor is getting the last few handbook pages' existing German
translation put up on the
organisation
and cross link from tdf to LibreOffice too.
But...for this clean-up, where we can continue this discussion? this
list doesn't look like the right place to me. :)
Cheers,
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Hi Marina, all,
marina latini wrote:
> The WollMux repos are now under the LibreOffice GitHub organisation
> that, to my understanding, should be just a read only mirror from
> our git instance hosting the LibreOffice source code.
>
That place was picked on purpose, since (in contrast to e.g. the
Hello Thorsten, hi all,
Thanks for taking care of those changes. I have a doubt that I would like to
clarify before starting to have contributors pushing changes to this new place.
The WollMux repos are now under the LibreOffice GitHub organisation that, to my
understanding, should be just a re
Dear all,
I wrote:
> Since there seems to be no general concerns, I'd then use the quiet
> period next week, to switch the github repos over to the libreoffice
> org. After that, we can look into the Jenkins setup.
>
This has happened meanwhile:
- WollMux - https://github.com/LibreOffice/WollMux
Dear all,
Marina Latini wrote:
> On 05.12.2022 08:10, Samuel Mehrbrodt wrote:
> > Yes, these should be converted to master (after checking they are still
> > valid).
>
> yes, some help in closing invalid issues will be extremely valuable.
>
We can certainly look into that next year (CI needs goi
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