G. D. Akin wrote:
I've been on this list for two days and received about 125 posts, most in
mid-stream it seems.
The Nomination Form for the Torcon 3 2003 Hugos is available on the Conjose
2002 site and in the Torcon 3 PR 4. I'm about to send my nominations in.
How many on the list think Kiln P
In a message dated 1/24/2003 10:22:26 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Oh yeah, I forgot to mention (thanks Debbi!) that I have a somewhat
> personal obsession with seeing Brin-creations on Iron Chef. To wit:
> Tandu Teriyaki
> Gubru Goulash
> Juicy Jophur Julienne
Protein 'makes cancer cells self-destruct'
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Nick Arnett wrote:
> Well, looks like we had a totally unintended break
> from brin-l for the last 10 or 12 hours. Those of
> you experiencing significant withdrawl symptoms may
> now relieve yourselves.
Ah yes...
> Or something like that. I don't know, I'm so dang
> tired after not one, but t
At 12:51 AM 1/25/03 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote:
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On > Behalf Of Ronn! Blankenship
> Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 12:02 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Helen Thomas on bush
>
> At 03:01 PM 1/24/03 -0800, Do
At 12:21 AM 1/25/03 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote:
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention (thanks Debbi!) that I have a somewhat
personal obsession with seeing Brin-creations on Iron Chef. To wit:
Tandu Teriyaki
Gubru Goulash
Juicy Jophur Julienne
Soaked Soro over Spaghetti
Tytlal Tots
Hoonish Hamburgers
Gorill
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> > I was told that He said (at some long-ago time
> > in the beginning of list-time) that "All is
> Brin."
>
> All...all..all..h.
>
> A naturalist's Ode To Uplift.
>
> All things bright and beautiful
> All creatur
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On > Behalf Of Ronn! Blankenship
> Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 12:02 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Helen Thomas on bush
>
> At 03:01 PM 1/24/03 -0800, Doug Pensinger wrote:
> >The Fool wrote:
> >
> >>
Not trying to pry -- but I do hope everything's ok and settled for you
and your family.
Jon
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Nick Arnett
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 11:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Whoops!!
Well, looks like we h
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On > Behalf Of Deborah Harrell
> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 8:04 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Listref] Environment
>
> I am sorry that I was unaware of the prior debate; I
> wasn't a member then. Had I known this particular
> t
At 05:03 PM 1/24/03 -0800, Deborah Harrell wrote:
I am sorry that I was unaware of the prior debate; I
wasn't a member then. Had I known this particular
text was a sore point, I would not have brought it up;
I happened to read a snippet in my science digest re:
the committee, and did a minigoogle
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention (thanks Debbi!) that I have a somewhat
personal obsession with seeing Brin-creations on Iron Chef. To wit:
Tandu Teriyaki
Gubru Goulash
Juicy Jophur Julienne
Soaked Soro over Spaghetti
Tytlal Tots
Hoonish Hamburgers
Gorilla Grits with Ghee and Gorgonzola
Kiqui Sushi r
Hi George!
A pleasure to meet you. Welcome to Brin-L.
You might want to check out Brin-L.com to get a feel for the list.
To answer your questions, completely out of order: :)
Ongoing Brinlist conversations center a great deal on politics,
technology, privacy and scientific issues. We don't
At 10:51 AM 1/24/03 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
I got spam today, an ad for Norton Anti-Virus, and the "from" claimed to be
"Andre Norton".
Sounds more like the work of _Ed_ Norton . . .
This cheesed me off enough to complain to a group containing enough people
to understand why I'm cheese
At 03:01 PM 1/24/03 -0800, Doug Pensinger wrote:
The Fool wrote:
"This is the worst president ever," she said. "He is the worst president
in all of American history."
The woman who has known eight of them wasn't joking.
I couldn't agree more. He's the Anti-American President and we'll be year
In a message dated 1/24/2003 9:35:38 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I was told that He said (at some long-ago time
> in the beginning of list-time) that "All is Brin."
All...all..all..h.
A naturalist's Ode To Uplift.
All things bright and beauti
Deborah Harrell wrote:
I am sorry that I was unaware of the prior debate; I
wasn't a member then.
I wouldn't be sorry at all, if I was you. It's a perfectly legitimate
and interesting topic and I don't remember any massive flame war in a
previous thread about the book in question, or any ob
At 03:01 PM 1/24/2003 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote:
>>"This is the worst president ever," she said. "He is the worst president
>>in all of American history."
>>
Apparently Bill Clinton never sexually harassed her..
JDG
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--- "G. D. Akin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've been on this list for two days and received
> about 125 posts, most in mid-stream it seems.
> BTW, of the 125 posts, not one mentions the works of
> the Killer B's or
> Baxter or Vinge, all of whom are listed on the sign
> up page. Has this lis
In a message dated 1/24/2003 9:17:50 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Well, looks like we had a totally unintended break from brin-l for the last
> 10 or 12 hours. Those of you experiencing significant withdrawl symptoms
> may now relieve yourselves.
You do and you c
R!
I hit send* when I meant to hit save as a draft* -
wanted to rework it a bit, perhaps delete some of the
personal bits...
Oh well. See the
frequently-fuzzy-in-direction-while-work-is-in-progress
convolutions of my mind...
Debbi
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Do you Ya
Deborah Harrell wrote:
>
> --- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > p.s. anyone, recommend one of her books to me if
> > you'd like, OK?
>
> I really liked _Breed To Come_, _The Jargoon Pard_ and
> the series with Kerovan and Joisan. Her collaborated
> 'Trillium' series I found less-tha
Well, looks like we had a totally unintended break from brin-l for the last
10 or 12 hours. Those of you experiencing significant withdrawl symptoms
may now relieve yourselves. Or something like that. I don't know, I'm so
dang tired after not one, but two major family crises in the last three
da
--- Richard Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> While we're on the subject, what do believers in
> souls make of my argument in
>
http://cdr.sine.com/cdr/shell.cfm?action=article&id=281
Since none of the more philosophical- or theological-
minded have taken this issue up, I'll have a go, but
as a
Next time you pop a favorite tape or DVD, look at it from an alien's point of
view.
Some work, some don't.
I bet a Tytlal would never sit through an entire Adam Sandler movie..
William Taylor
a boring night. And a 3AM
drive up to Phoenix to buy
200-300 used librar
In a message dated 1/24/2003 10:25:37 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I also went to his website and read the commission report. Quoting a
> popular science magazine as one's primary source? Any
> physicist who would
> do that would be laughed out of the room.
But the SA
Deborah Harrell wrote:
>
> I'm trying to figure out if our server is wonky...Did
> anyone get my earlier message re: 'sorry I stepped
> into a *pile I didn't know was there'?
>
> I've only gotten 16 posts today [maybe channeling
> Ronn's evil twin? ;) ], but other lists are coming
> through.
I s
--- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I got spam today, an ad for Norton Anti-Virus, and
> the "from" claimed to be "Andre Norton".
>
> This cheesed me off enough to complain to a group
> containing enough people
> to understand why I'm cheesed off. :P
>
> Julia
>
> p.s. anyone,
My mind reacted with 'list-mama' and 'list-daddy' I'll not elaborate on the
rest of my thoughts. ;o)
Sonja
"Horn, John" wrote:
> I swear this mailing list is the most dysfunctional family I have ever seen.
>
> Sometimes I can't tell if you all* are serious about these things or sitting
> bac
A woman with a brain tumor was arrested when she went in to pick up her
prescription painkiller.
http://makeashorterlink.com/?L22362733
Julia
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Bryon Daly wrote:
> Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >> camping cots you can fold back together, www. hauck.de ) and AVENT (baby feeding
>stuf). I
> >> needed replacement parts for well used items of theirs and they both sent them to
>me
> >> without any charge after a quick e-ma
In a message dated 1/24/2003 9:00:59 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Just trying to
> get a feel from the list.
I'd keep your legs crossed when you type that.
No pun goes out tended with this grop.er group.
William Taylor
--
What are all thes
I am sorry that I was unaware of the prior debate; I
wasn't a member then. Had I known this particular
text was a sore point, I would not have brought it up;
I happened to read a snippet in my science digest re:
the committee, and did a minigoogle which turned up
the article I posted.
If someone
In a message dated 1/22/2003 10:30:25 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Out of curiosity, do you watch as many Yankee games when they are 30 games
> out as when they are in a pennant race? Did you follow the Knicks closely
> when they were out of the playoffs?
I have not wa
The Fool wrote:
"This is the worst president ever," she said. "He is the worst president
in all of American history."
The woman who has known eight of them wasn't joking.
I couldn't agree more. He's the Anti-American President and we'll be
years maybe decades fixing the mess he's making.
Do
I'm trying to figure out if our server is wonky...Did
anyone get my earlier message re: 'sorry I stepped
into a *pile I didn't know was there'?
I've only gotten 16 posts today [maybe channeling
Ronn's evil twin? ;) ], but other lists are coming
through.
GSV Ping
_
Did it break for real this time?
Kevin T.
Plan B
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Jon Gabriel wrote:
> :)
> http://gprojects.web.aol.com/tso/quiz_standalone.html
>
entertainment sim... I always new I had a flair for drama. ;o)
Sonja
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On 24 Jan 2003 at 10:08, Jon Gabriel wrote:
> Erik and Andy,
> I didn't read the book, and I make it a point never to bash or praise
> texts unless I've read 'em. However, if source materials are what
> y'all are looking for This is excerpted text (actually, it's
> pretty much all of it!) al
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Erik Reuter
...
> Maybe someone would volunteer to referee the debate?
>
> What do you say, Andy, can you handle a scientific debate on the issue?
Erik,
I don't think this is intended to be a place f
It appears that the server was acting up, though I can't quite see what
happened. For now, at least, it seems to be back to normal.
--
Nick Arnett
Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198
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January 24, 2003
On Evolution and Growth, Clues From Birds' Beaks
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Using tiny needles to exchange cells in 36-hour-old bird embryos, scientists
have replaced a duck's flat bill with a quail's pointed beak, and vice
versa. The experiment has uncovered critical factors in the
At 13:25 24-01-2003 +, Andy Crystall wrote:
> Everyone twists what you say. Aww, poor Andy.
No...three people on this list in the past have. And you only in this
particular debate. (The other two are Jeroen and The Fool, for
reference).
I checked my posts in which I replied to your
At 12:24 24-01-2003 +, Andy Crystall wrote:
Don't worry, I'll take myself off the list
Is that a threat or a promise?
Jeroen "Promises, promises..." van Baardwijk
LEGAL NOTICE:
By replying to this message, you understand and accept that your replies
(both on-list and off-list) may be p
I got spam today, an ad for Norton Anti-Virus, and the "from" claimed to be
"Andre Norton".
This cheesed me off enough to complain to a group containing enough people
to understand why I'm cheesed off. :P
Julia
p.s. anyone, recommend one of her books to me if you'd like, OK?
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I've been on this list for two days and received about 125 posts, most in
mid-stream it seems.
The Nomination Form for the Torcon 3 2003 Hugos is available on the Conjose
2002 site and in the Torcon 3 PR 4. I'm about to send my nominations in.
How many on the list think Kiln People is worthy of a
- Original Message -
From: "Gautam Mukunda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Listref] Environment
>
> --- Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science/01/10/denmark.environment.ap/
>
http://dailybreeze.com/content/bog/nmbogert19.html
Doubting Thomas offers her press veterans take on state of presidency
As veteran White House correspondent Helen Thomas signed my program
Thursday evening at the Society of Professional Journalists annual
awards banquet, I said, First time I
Erik and Andy,
I didn't read the book, and I make it a point never to bash or praise texts
unless I've read 'em. However, if source materials are what y'all are
looking for This is excerpted text (actually, it's pretty much all of
it!) all of it), of the Danish Committees on Scientific Dis
On 24 Jan 2003 at 9:27, Erik Reuter wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 02:20:58PM -, Andrew Crystall wrote:
> > I simply don't have the time, sorry. Or the inclination to go over
> > ground which would covered far better by an environmental scientist.
> > Which I am not, even if I do have access
--- Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science/01/10/denmark.environment.ap/
>
> "In his 2001 book, "The Skeptical Environmentalist,"
> Danish statistician Bjoern Lomborg said concerns
> about
> melting ice caps, deforestation, acid rain were
> exaggerated.
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 02:20:58PM -, Andrew Crystall wrote:
> I simply don't have the time, sorry. Or the inclination to go over
> ground which would covered far better by an environmental scientist.
> Which I am not, even if I do have access to a large archive of data.
Translation:
1) Eit
On 24 Jan 2003 at 9:05, Erik Reuter wrote:
> > You are, quite frankly, trolling.
>
> That is my standard response to passive-aggressive comments like
> yours. But let's try something else that could be more productive, if
> you are up to it.
Uhh, as I said you don't twist my words on other subje
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 01:25:49PM -, Andrew Crystall wrote:
> > Excuse me? Where has it been established scientifically that he hasn't
> > used proper scientific methodology? And where has it been established
> > scientifically that his points, carefully elaborated and in print for
> > all to
On 24 Jan 2003 at 8:07, Erik Reuter wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 01:03:01PM -, Andrew Crystall wrote:
>
> > Excuse me? He's just been slammed because he hasn't used proper
> > scientific methodology.
>
> Excuse me? Where has it been established scientifically that he hasn't
> used proper
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 01:03:01PM -, Andrew Crystall wrote:
> Excuse me? He's just been slammed because he hasn't used proper
> scientific methodology.
Excuse me? Where has it been established scientifically that he hasn't
used proper scientific methodology? And where has it been established
On 24 Jan 2003 at 7:41, Erik Reuter wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 12:24:41PM -, Andrew Crystall wrote:
>
> > No. I TOLD you he was no scientist. That he was a activist for a
> > cause.
> >
> > I TOLD you that there were LEGITIMATE CONCERNS with the way he used
> > data.
> >
> > I TOLD you
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 12:24:41PM -, Andrew Crystall wrote:
> No. I TOLD you he was no scientist. That he was a activist for a
> cause.
>
> I TOLD you that there were LEGITIMATE CONCERNS with the way he used
> data.
>
> I TOLD you that his work was NOT sufficiently peer-reviewed.
How about a
On 24 Jan 2003 at 5:51, Kevin Tarr wrote:
> At 05:01 AM 1/24/2003 +, you wrote:
> >On 23 Jan 2003 at 19:33, Deborah Harrell wrote:
> >
> > > http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science/01/10/denmark.environment.ap/
> > >
> > > "In his 2001 book, "The Skeptical Environmentalist,"
> > > Danish statisti
On 24 Jan 2003 at 8:43, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
> Andrew Crystall wrote:
> >
> >> This is as bad as Unisys attempting to extort people
> >> into paying licensing fees for using .GIF images.
> >
> > difference - for making *programs* which can *create* GIF images.
> > That's the difference.
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 05:51:29AM -0500, Kevin Tarr wrote:
> You told us? Told us what? That you believe that scientific inquiry
> should be based on behavior and not facts? That a Committee can pass
> judgement on a book without disproving any facts in that book? That
> someone who has a dissent
> Pope John Paul II is lobbying European governments to
> officially recognize the European Union's Christian roots,
(...)
How interesting. When I read the subject, I automatically
translated EU to Estados Unidos :-)
Alberto Monteiro
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htt
At 05:01 AM 1/24/2003 +, you wrote:
On 23 Jan 2003 at 19:33, Deborah Harrell wrote:
> http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science/01/10/denmark.environment.ap/
>
> "In his 2001 book, "The Skeptical Environmentalist,"
> Danish statistician Bjoern Lomborg said concerns about
> melting ice caps, defore
Andrew Crystall wrote:
>
>> This is as bad as Unisys attempting to extort people
>> into paying licensing fees for using .GIF images.
>
> difference - for making *programs* which can *create* GIF images.
> That's the difference.
>
I don't see anything immoral in Unisys trying to
get som
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