Re: Irregulars Question: raising the dead in the sims

2004-01-30 Thread Steve Sloan II
Alberto Monteiro wrote: My 10-year-old daughter accidentally killed my 4-year-old's > character. Is there any way to raise de dead? Alberto Monteiro in panic mode PS: yes, I know "the sims is evil and must be eradicated" Maybe you can generate a red-headed lesbian witch character to do it. ;-) B

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Julia Thompson
David Hobby wrote: > > "Ronn!Blankenship" wrote: > > > > At 09:50 PM 1/29/04, David Hobby wrote: > > > > >In my experience, real scholars avoid administrative work like > > >the plague! > > > > True! > > > > >(I should know, it's my turn to be Chair...) > > > > Is it only coincidence that the posi

Re: My field is more academic, nyah, nyah, was: Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- David Hobby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > O.K., let's try a different tack. How do people in > > your field decide who is "right"? How do they test > theories? > What are their standards of evidence? > Feel free to disabuse me of this, but my opinion is > that it is mostly a matte

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread David Hobby
"Ronn!Blankenship" wrote: > > At 09:50 PM 1/29/04, David Hobby wrote: > > >In my experience, real scholars avoid administrative work like > >the plague! > > True! > > >(I should know, it's my turn to be Chair...) > > Is it only coincidence that the position is named after an object which > mos

Scouted: Howard Dean's 'smart ID' plan

2004-01-30 Thread Gary Nunn
I read this article today and I have to say that I was more than a little alarmed that this could have been a serious possibility. I have been part of a rollout team installing and enabling Common Access Card (CAC) readers at the DoD facility that I am contracted to. To say these cards and the o

My field is more academic, nyah, nyah, was: Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread David Hobby
Gautam Mukunda wrote: > > --- David Hobby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You are probably right, if International Relations > > qualifies as an academic field. Technically it > > does, since > > it is studied at colleges. But it seems too > > politicized for me > > to grant it much respect

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Davd Brin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > None of which changes the central fact an iota. FDR > got rid of Wallace and replaced him with Truman for > those very reasons. NATO, the MArshall plan and all > of that were PUSHED BY DEMOCRATS (for the most part, > including the leadership) AND WERE OP

Re: Stephan King

2004-01-30 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Jim Sharkey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 8:34 PM Subject: Re: Stephan King > > Travis Edmunds wrote: > >From: "Robert Seeberger" > >>I Have No Penis Yet I Still Feel the Yearning to Use One Maru > > Forgive me fo

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Davd Brin
- Have you heard of Henry > Wallace? He was a fairly important Democrat - in > fact, he was Franklin Roosevelt's third Vice > President. He was so far to the left that his > publicly declared choices for Secretary of State and > Secretary of the Treasury were (we now know) paid > Soviet agents.

Re: Frat boys? (was Re: Br!n: LotR and Conservatives)

2004-01-30 Thread Jim Sharkey
Julia Thompson wrote: >Jim Sharkey wrote: >>What's wrong with being a frat boy? >Having gone to UT, I ended up with a fairly negative view of frat >boys. (The alcohol-related deaths might have had something to do >with that.) >I've heard from people at other schools that not all frats are bad.

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Nick Arnett
Gautam Mukunda wrote: ... - that any large part of the GOP played any role in backing the drives for civil rights, gender rights or environmental protection. Dr. Brin, it's you, not me, that needs to offer some evidence. You're making some remarkable claims about my ignorance. On that, btw,

DeCSS lawsuit to be dropped?

2004-01-30 Thread Bryon Daly
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,1457369,00.asp DVD Decoding: Trade Secret No More By Sebastian Rupley January 23, 2004 In a move that has big implications for both the distribution and sharing of entertainment content and freedom of speech online, a group of entertainment and technology com

Re: Frat boys? (was Re: Br!n: LotR and Conservatives)

2004-01-30 Thread Julia Thompson
Jim Sharkey wrote: > > Davd Brin wrote contemptuously of: > >Frat boys. > > What's wrong with being a frat boy? Isn't brotherhood, booze and the pursuit of > babes what America is all about? :-) > > Jim > Pi Kappa Phi, Beta Alpha #569 Maru Depends on where you went to school. Having gone to

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Davd Brin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Moreover you PROVED that ignorance by claiming that: > > - containment of communism was anything other than a > driev instigated by democrats and labor unionists Actually, I disagreed with you that the GOP actively opposed it. Labor unions were a very i

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Davd Brin
-- There is not a chance that I will let this go. Your claim at credentials is absurd. Again and let me repeat AGAIN you avoid grappling even remotely with the TOPICS about which I claimed you were ignorant. Moreover you PROVED that ignorance by claiming that: - containment of communism was an

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Davd Brin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Truly unbelievable. You know... and know very well > that my statement had to do with ignorance ABOUT THE > SUBJECT AT HAND. You mean American political history? I have a degree in Government, I probably know something about it. Seriously, Dr. Bri

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Davd Brin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, Gautam, things are not as you describe > them. > Under the new traditions set in place by (once > again)George Marshall, the US military is one of the > few that has revolutionized and re-invented > doctrines > without having to undergo a defeat

Re: Left Vs Right Handedness

2004-01-30 Thread Jim Sharkey
William T Goodall wrote: >This is so obvious I'm embarrassed having to explain it to people >who are supposed to be grown up :) Wait, we're supposed to be grownups? Did I miss another memo? :) Jim 36 going on 12 Maru ___ Join Excite! - http://www.e

Re: Left Vs Right Handedness

2004-01-30 Thread Julia Thompson
William T Goodall wrote: > > On 30 Jan 2004, at 7:54 pm, The Fool wrote: > > > > Ever notice how girls Vs boy carry books in school? Girls always carry > > books close on their breast (like carrying a baby), > > That's to keep their wabs under control. That's what a good bra is for. (See my co

Re: Stephan King

2004-01-30 Thread Jim Sharkey
Travis Edmunds wrote: >From: "Robert Seeberger" >>I Have No Penis Yet I Still Feel the Yearning to Use One Maru > Forgive me for saying so, but that's just.different. It makes *me* wonder if we could get Harlan to write a new short story about AM. :) Jim I hope I'm not seeing reference joke

Scouted: A Friendly Drink in a Time of War

2004-01-30 Thread Bryon Daly
http://www.dissentmagazine.org/menutest/articles/wi04/berman.htm A Friendly Drink in a Time of War by Paul Berman A friend leaned across a bar and said, "You call the war in Iraq an antifascist war. You even call it a left-wing war-a war of liberation. That language of yours! And yet, on the

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Davd Brin
--- Bryon Daly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >From: Davd Brin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >These are NOT the same complaints as those voiced > by > >Howard Dean. His pusilanimous antiwar position I > have > >no patience for. Saddam had to go. But it is not > all > >or nothing. > > I feel rather t

Saddam's payoll...

2004-01-30 Thread Bryon Daly
Sorry no cut'n'paste here for this one... http://abcnews.go.com/sections/WNT/Investigation/saddam_oil_vouchers_040129-1.html The most interesting person listed IMHO is George Galloway, a UK Parliament member who was vociferously anti-war and IIRC was the one who urged UK soldiers to refuse to f

Frat boys? (was Re: Br!n: LotR and Conservatives)

2004-01-30 Thread Jim Sharkey
Davd Brin wrote contemptuously of: >Frat boys. What's wrong with being a frat boy? Isn't brotherhood, booze and the pursuit of babes what America is all about? :-) Jim Pi Kappa Phi, Beta Alpha #569 Maru ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Bryon Daly
From: Davd Brin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> These are NOT the same complaints as those voiced by Howard Dean. His pusilanimous antiwar position I have no patience for. Saddam had to go. But it is not all or nothing. I feel rather the same way about Dean's Iraq position. Would you care to share which D

Re: Left Vs Right Handedness

2004-01-30 Thread William T Goodall
On 30 Jan 2004, at 7:54 pm, The Fool wrote: Ever notice how girls Vs boy carry books in school? Girls always carry books close on their breast (like carrying a baby), That's to keep their wabs under control. and boys carry books on their hips. And that's to disguise the inadvertent woody. Thi

Re: Conceptual lines - Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Davd Brin
-- > >Those who defend secrecy of ownership are not > >defending enterprise capitalism, they are defending > >feudal privilege. > > > > I have no intention of jumping into this, but I must > say, that is one of the > more truthful statements I have yet witnessed, > squeezed out of someone in >

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Davd Brin
Truly unbelievable. You know... and know very well that my statement had to do with ignorance ABOUT THE SUBJECT AT HAND. In order to refute that assertion of mine, you had merely to demonstrate knowledge ABOUT THE SUBJECT AT HAND. Instead, you avoid dealing with any aspect ABOUT THE SUBJECT

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Davd Brin
> The Iranians would have followed your orders so > supinely? One could have asked that about the unruly Tajiks, Uzbeks etc in the Northern Alliance. The answer? Make it the only logical choice in their own best interesst. And yes, it woulda worked. They had every motive. > > > > In any eve

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Davd Brin
Actually, Gautam, things are not as you describe them. Under the new traditions set in place by (once again)George Marshall, the US military is one of the few that has revolutionized and re-invented doctrines without having to undergo a defeat/trauma first. They are undergoing another major re-

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Damon Agretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Speaking iof bolstering the numbers in the Army, I > just saw this on CNN.com today: > http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/01/29/sprj.nirq.army.strength/index.html > > Damon Damon, have you read _Breaking the Phalanx_? This seems to be at least a little insp

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Davd Brin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This shows your utterly astounding ignorance. > Totally > without parallel this week. You win the prize. Dr. Brin, do you think that impresses anybody? I've been on the list for how long? What do you think people here think of my knowledge of history?

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Davd Brin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am willing to admnit that this idea has flaws and > dangers. I would have limited their involvement to > the Shia south and then used that invasion as > leverage > to get sunni generals to rebel. The Iranians would have followed your orders so supinely

Re: Science Fiction In General

2004-01-30 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 05:56 PM 1/30/04, Travis Edmunds wrote: Therefore my statement about King does bear some relevance. Of course he isn't mediocre in the eyes of the masses. But in the eyes of lit junkies, he is. For that matter, purists (English teachers frex) have long considered the entire field of scien

Re: Science Fiction In General

2004-01-30 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Science Fiction In General Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 18:59:33 -0600 - Original Message - From: "Travis Edmunds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <

Re: BrĂ¯n: LotR and Conservatives [Attn Debbi]

2004-01-30 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 05:22 PM 1/30/04, Deborah Harrell wrote: Forbidding saving of the mother's life in favor of the unborn, if the mother's life is at stake (unless they've amended that since last I looked?) Is that exactly what it says, or is that a paraphrase or interpretation of what it says? If the la

Re: Left Vs Right Handedness

2004-01-30 Thread David Hobby
> Results indicate that women cradle on the side of the body that is > contralateral to the hemisphere dominant for face and emotion processing > and suggest a possible explanation of gender differences in the incidence > of cradling. I cradle a baby on the left side so that my right hand

Re: Conceptual lines - Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Davd Brin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Conceptual lines - Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 15:01:55 -0800 (PST) Those who defend secrecy of ownership are not defending e

Re: Left Vs Right Handedness

2004-01-30 Thread Julia Thompson
The Fool wrote: > > Women Hold Babies On The Left To Connect To Emotional Half Of the Brain > > <> > > Results indicate that women cradle on the side of the body that is > contralateral to the hemisphere dominant for face and emotion proce

Re: Left Vs Right Handedness

2004-01-30 Thread Dave Land
Folks, I think would also partially explain the tendency towards right-handedness, which effects which side of the body a baby would normally be held. Or is it possible that mothers tend to hold babies on the left > side because the heartbeat is more easily heard on the left side Cause and effec

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Deborah Harrell
I'm only addressing health issues right now, as those are the ones I've researched most thoroughly; I have posted to the List numerous (good) studies supporting this/these positions (I have also posted opposing views/studies where knowledge is not certain -- of course, in medicine information is al

Re: Conceptual lines - Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Davd Brin
> Which is what the right is now turning toward to the > left to a degree. > HimmlerCroft and His patriot Act I & II. They are > cementing their own > power, and turning ever more angry, spiteful, and > hateful at people who > don't hold their dogmatic views. I do not disagree about the malicio

Re: Conceptual lines - Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread The Fool
> From: Davd Brin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ^ > > Yipe! WHo made you the conceptual blurring police, > Jan? > > Fact: nearly all fascist regimes used us-vs-them > demonization int order to create an imagined need to > "all unify and work together." That is what fascism > MEANS. I woul

Re: Brin: best SF e-zine?

2004-01-30 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Lalith Vipulananthan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jan Coffey wrote: > > > That web site as you probably can tell is the web presence of the Sci- > > Fi channel, and Sci-Fi Mag. > > > > I don't know what your deffinition of "mainline SF magazines" is, but > > I woul

Re: Stephan King

2004-01-30 Thread Nich Lidster
yeah i ahve to agree with Travis on this one, Anne Rice does tend to have very... "Racey" scenes, however they tend to have no real bearing on the sexual identy of any one characterthat being said, it is important as a venue to prove to the lesser of the "Rice" inclinded reader, that the love i

Re: Left Vs Right Handedness

2004-01-30 Thread Nich Lidster
To me the carring of books acroos teh chest by females was a way to somewhat block the stare of teh "horny" boys, and to give them some ease from teh stresses of highschool life. - Original Message - From: "Horn, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent:

Re: Conseptual lines - Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Davd Brin
Yipe! WHo made you the conceptual blurring police, Jan? Fact: nearly all fascist regimes used us-vs-them demonization int order to create an imagined need to "all unify and work together." That is what fascism MEANS. It comes from the fasci symbol of ancient Rome, adopted by the first fascist

Conseptual lines - Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gautam Mukunda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fool, let me suggest something. Learn a tiny little > bit about a topic before you make comments like this. > > Because the world faced fascism once, and we want to > > prevent it from ever > > happening again. > > Yes, 6 mill

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Hobby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Wait a minute, I LIKE economic solutions to social problems. > Properly done, emissions trading would help to make the market more > responsive to environmental costs. (Improperly done, it could be > an easy way to weaken

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Hobby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Damon Agretto wrote: > ... > > Korea. When the US government has to start tapping > > guard assets in order to relieve regular army units, > > then I think we have a manpower problem. I've stated > > before that we DO need more troo

Re: Stephan King

2004-01-30 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Stephan King Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 18:52:15 -0600 - Original Message - From: "Travis Edmunds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECT

RE: Left Vs Right Handedness

2004-01-30 Thread Horn, John
> From: The Fool [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Ever notice how girls Vs boy carry books in school? Girls > always carry > books close on their breast (like carrying a baby), and boys > carry books on their hips. > Does that mean that men carry babies on their hips? - jmh Obligatory second

Re: Return of the King Review Re: my mini review

2004-01-30 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Return of the King Review Re: my mini review Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 19:48:30 -0600 Travis Edmunds wrote: > > >From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTE

More News you Wont see on the Front Page or CNN

2004-01-30 Thread The Fool
<> Did you know that a Middle Easterner residing in South Africa has been picked up on federal charges of conspiring to send 200 American-made nuclear weapons detonators to Pakistan? Probably not. It was easy to miss, just a three-paragraph

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Davd Brin
--- Damon Agretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > assigned to an army. Or better yet, that should > > have > > been assigned to the IRANIAN army. > > I'm not so sure that would have been the most > successful or wisest choices. Iran is not exactly > popular amongst secular Arab leaders, being bot

Re: Left Vs Right Handedness

2004-01-30 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 01:54 PM 1/30/04, The Fool wrote: Women Hold Babies On The Left To Connect To Emotional Half Of the Brain <> Results indicate that women cradle on the side of the body that is contralateral to the hemisphere dominant for face and emotion

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Davd Brin
--- Gautam Mukunda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Davd Brin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >Containing communism > > Dr. Brin, you think the GOP opposed this? You > remember the 1980s, when Ronald Reagan said "Mr. > Gorbachev, tear down this wall." While your favored > party imitated Nevill

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Damon Agretto
> assigned to an army. Or better yet, that should > have > been assigned to the IRANIAN army. I'm not so sure that would have been the most successful or wisest choices. Iran is not exactly popular amongst secular Arab leaders, being both Shi'a AND fundie Islamic government. Besides which, the on

Left Vs Right Handedness

2004-01-30 Thread The Fool
Women Hold Babies On The Left To Connect To Emotional Half Of the Brain <> Results indicate that women cradle on the side of the body that is contralateral to the hemisphere dominant for face and emotion processing and suggest a possible e

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Davd Brin
> And won the DFC, as I recall. He was also (still > is, > I believe) the youngest person ever to fly an > airplane > off a carrier, since he lied about his age in order > to > join the Navy. And *I* am accused of dwelling on the past? Kennedy was a war hero too. That didn't stop him from be

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Davd Brin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Containing communism Dr. Brin, you think the GOP opposed this? You remember the 1980s, when Ronald Reagan said "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall." While your favored party imitated Neville Chamberlain? > > >public universities This? > > >medic

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread The Fool
> From: John D. Giorgis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For example. ... > AIDS Fund SOTU2003: 15 Billion Pledge <> " I ask the Congress to commit $15 billion over the next five years, including nearly $10 billion in new money, to turn

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Damon Agretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > IIRC Bush flew either F-102s or F-106s for the Texas > ANG. Although a handful were deployed to Vietnam for > air defence, the aircraft was designed to be a > bomber > intereceptor in the event of a Nuclear War. Not > really > a front line fighter. Not

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Davd Brin
--- Damon Agretto said "both seem to think it will do > more > to hurt kids who are NOT at need, than help ones > that > are. As a man with 3 small kids in the so called 'gifted programs" I can tell you that the chief effect of "standards" have been mixed. 1) some lousy teachers culled. 2) Som

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Damon Agretto
Quick note under the "No Child Left Behind" thing. My uncle is an educator, indeed the superintendant of Special Ed in the local school district, so the children he administers over are usually the ones most at need. Recently our state rep (friend of the family and former teacher himself) was discu

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread The Fool
> From: The Fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > From: Gautam Mukunda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Wasn't it just yesterday that it was being reported that Good ole Rummy > decided to increase the Armed forces by 3? Wasn't it just several > months ago that the Draft boards came back from the dead? All

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread The Fool
> From: John D. Giorgis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > At 09:38 PM 1/29/2004 -0800 Davd Brin wrote: > >I should have known better. Sigh. > > > >I said that left-vs.right is a cosmically stupid way > >for immature political minds to identify themselves... > >and you guys rush right ahead and blare "me rig

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Davd Brin
--- "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 02:06 AM 1/30/2004 -0800 Davd Brin wrote: > > Yet you defend people who > >regularly spread genuine libel like RAPE and MURDER > at > >the (then) president of the United States? > > But Dr. Brin, aren't you engaging in exactly the > sort of le

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Davd Brin
--- "John D. Giorgis" said > In fairness, after bashing the left-right dichotomy, > you then proceeded to > launch into a fairly one-sided rant against > conservatives and the > Republican Party, which most people idenify > synomously with the political > "right." You still refuse to even try to

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Damon Agretto
IIRC Bush flew either F-102s or F-106s for the Texas ANG. Although a handful were deployed to Vietnam for air defence, the aircraft was designed to be a bomber intereceptor in the event of a Nuclear War. Not really a front line fighter. Not really comparable to, say, George Sr., who flew Dauntless

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Davd Brin
So many issues, so little time. What boggles me is that political "my side" myopia blinds folks to simple, basic pattern recognition. Like that way immigration is handled. Both Bushes totally reamed the Border Patrol, for example. Did you know that? Under both administrations, border patrollin

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread The Fool
> From: Gautam Mukunda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Even George Bush was a fighter pilot > in the National Guard - not what you choose to do if > you want to avoid all danger. No, you just go AWOL for a year. Nice having politically powerful parents to help you out isn't it? <

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread The Fool
> From: Gautam Mukunda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > --- The Fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > All funded by Billionaire Right-Wing Sugar Daddies, > > Like Moon, Sciafe, > > Ahmanson, Coors. > > As opposed to left-wing ones like Soros? <

On strong words and apologies

2004-01-30 Thread Nick Arnett
I'm always happy to see David Brin engage with our little community here... but I'm often simultaneously worried that it'll be the last time. It is a rare on-line community that enjoys the participation of the person who inspired its birth. The more well-known that person and the longer the co

Irregulars Question: raising the dead in the sims

2004-01-30 Thread Alberto Monteiro
My 10-year-old daughter accidentally killed my 4-year-old's character. Is there any way to raise de dead? Alberto Monteiro in panic mode PS: yes, I know "the sims is evil and must be eradicated" ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread The Fool
> From: David Hobby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > The Fool wrote: > ... > > > I think the best empirical evidence that falsifies your above > > conclusions > > > is to simply compare the number of public policy think tanks on the > > right > > > vs. those of the left. > > > > All funded by Billionaire

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Damon Agretto
Speaking iof bolstering the numbers in the Army, I just saw this on CNN.com today: http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/01/29/sprj.nirq.army.strength/index.html Damon. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 09:38 PM 1/29/2004 -0800 Davd Brin wrote: >I should have known better. Sigh. > >I said that left-vs.right is a cosmically stupid way >for immature political minds to identify themselves... >and you guys rush right ahead and blare "me right and >me proud!" In fairness, after bashing the left-rig

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 02:06 AM 1/30/2004 -0800 Davd Brin wrote: > Yet you defend people who >regularly spread genuine libel like RAPE and MURDER at >the (then) president of the United States? But Dr. Brin, aren't you engaging in exactly the sort of left-right dichotomy that you have earlier rejected?The people w

Re: Brin: best SF e-zine?

2004-01-30 Thread Lalith Vipulananthan
Jan Coffey wrote: > That web site as you probably can tell is the web presence of the Sci- > Fi channel, and Sci-Fi Mag. > > I don't know what your deffinition of "mainline SF magazines" is, but > I would think that this particulare one, while not what I would > consider to be "mainline", it's

apologies

2004-01-30 Thread d.brin
I want to apologize. Everything I said should have been said in a softer tone of kindness and reason. Late at night, the worst email diseases can get ahold of any of us. Please accept that I respect Gautam and consider him to be a friend. Oh, the Nolan "2-D political diagram" is notoriousl

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Davd Brin
Ooooh you guys caught me. It was late at night when I scribbled the ROTC without mentioning it was High School. I was signed up for a 6 year stint as a nuke officer aboard a sub... when many things happened to change that life course. Nothing shameful, just things. But really, what bullshit. I

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread David Land
Folks, With respect to the ongoing debate about Left vs. Right, the the current administration's willingness to trade freedom for security, consider the following quote, and try to guess who said it. The URL of a web page with the answer is at the end of this email. You and I are told incr

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 12:52 AM 1/30/04, Davd Brin wrote: In fact, I had 4 years of ROTC training and would have gone to Vietnam if I did not perceive that war as the worst inanity, falling for a KGB trap of sucking America into a land war in Asia. I'm curious: what did you do to fulfil your obligation? (I'm ass

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Davd Brin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Gautam, now you are getting plain silly. Making > personal insults directed at me is hardly a response > to my long list of GOP sillinesses. I don't think I'm personally insulting you, actually. > > In fact, I had 4 years of ROTC training and would