Re: The Village - no spoilers....

2004-08-30 Thread David Hobby
Bryon Daly wrote: On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 01:25:45 -0400, Gary Nunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Has anyone seen M. Night Shyamalan's "The Village"? Yes, saw it a couple weeks ago. It's a good movie, but MNS seems to be stuck on the same themes. I'd say he has taken about two movie's worth of material,

RE: The Village - no spoilers....

2004-08-30 Thread Gary Nunn
> I avoided signs based on the Mel Gibson factor (namely that I > haven't been able to stand watching him act for the past 7-8 > years.) Would you recommend it, then? ...or are you merely > saying its the "best given the data set"? :D I would recommend it. This was not your typical Mel Gibson

The Village, with mild spoilers

2004-08-30 Thread David Hobby
S P O I L E R S S P O I L E R S I liked the timeless quality to the Village itself. It could have been set any time from 1800 or so on. And one would not know what life was like in the Towns without going outside to see. It really could have been anything. Although it seemed unlikely that it wo

Re: The Next Superpower

2004-08-30 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Richard Baker wrote: > >> Essentially, I don't see oil as being a sufficient foundation for >> becoming a "superpower."Certainly, the relative power of a >> given Arab State could increase from what it is now, but again, >> nothing approaching that of Greece, Rome, Mongolia, Spain, France, >> G

Fidel Castro joke

2004-08-30 Thread Alberto Monteiro
... except that it's true. Fidel Castro liked so much the Farhennegger [or whatever] 9/11 that he exhibited it free for the people of Cuba to see. The cubans who watched the movie commented: "how wonderful to live in a country where we can make movies that mock our president!" Alberto Monteiro _

Re: The Next Superpower

2004-08-30 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Alberto Monteiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Caliphate was not a Global Superpower; they > ruled over a small > part of the world, and they had major defeats to > _minor_ powers in > both the eastern and western front. > > But I would replace Spain by "The Habsburgs" - it > was when Spain

Re: The Next Superpower

2004-08-30 Thread Damon Agretto
> Wellington famously commented, I think after > Talavera > (but I'm sure Damon will correct me), "There is > nothing so sad as a battle won, except a battle > lost." Ah, no I don't know diddly about the Napoleonic Wars. My interest in MilHist stops around 1525 and doesn't pick up again until aro

Re: Privately funded medical research is evil, why it must be eradicated [was: Fascist Censorship Spreads: Vichy Style]

2004-08-30 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My numbers indicate that about 20% of the cost of > drugs goes into > development, cost and production, and that the rest > is systematic overhead. I can't comment on this much (for obvious reasons). I think 20% is a little low, though. > I really don

JDG-Type Jeeb-O-Fascist Bigots Terrorize Neighborhood

2004-08-30 Thread The Fool
<> 'I feel terrorized' Looks like that ol' anti-abortion extremist, Flip Benham, is not only stepping up the nastiness of his campaign by targeting abortion providers at their homes -- a tactic intentionally remni

RE: The Village - no spoilers....

2004-08-30 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: "Gary Nunn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Killer Bs Discussion'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: The Village - no spoilers Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 11:56:43 -0400 > That's exactly why I haven't seen the film yet. I just > wouldn't grasp the

Re: JDG-Type ...Fool, this is out-of-line.

2004-08-30 Thread David Hobby
The Fool wrote: Let's NOT have a flamewar with the TITLES of our posts? ---David ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Privately funded medical research is evil, why it must be eradicated [was...

2004-08-30 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 8/29/2004 3:45:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: History will, I think, most likely be amazed at the foolishness of governments that decided to sacrifice all future innovation and new drug development in order to get questionable savings on current p

Re: JDG-Type ...Fool, this is out-of-line.

2004-08-30 Thread Doug Pensinger
David Hobby wrote: The Fool wrote: Let's NOT have a flamewar with the TITLES of our posts? Seconded. -- Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: A pox on both your houses

2004-08-30 Thread Julia Randolph
On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 12:35:41 -0500, Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just saw this "pox on both your houses" commentary by Sebastian Mallaby. > I don't fully agree with it. In my opinion, there is too wide a range of > things that have gone wrong in exactly the > same way to attribute it

Re: Privately funded medical research is evil, why it must be eradicated [was...

2004-08-30 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > How will govenments that inhibit stem cell research > be viewed? Poorly, I imagine. I don't support this particular position of the President's. Although the apparent Democratic position - that no ethical limits on medical research may ever be made - I reject, of

RE: JDG-Type ...Fool, this is out-of-line.

2004-08-30 Thread Andrew Paul
> From: Doug Pensinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > David Hobby wrote: > > > The Fool wrote: > > > > > > > > Let's NOT have a flamewar with the TITLES of our posts? > > Seconded. > > -- > Doug > If you can hear from all the way down under. Thirded. Andrew

Re: Fascist Censorship Spreads: Vichy Style

2004-08-30 Thread Doug Pensinger
JDG wrote: If the rest of the world can be alienated by liberating Iraq, I am not at all convinced that they would not be alienated by efforts to tackle AIDS in African countries. Indeed, given that Iraq has now been liberated, and the rest of the world is actively bot just sitting on their hand

Re: A pox on both your houses

2004-08-30 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Julia Randolph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 10:05 PM Subject: Re: A pox on both your houses > Where might one find the entire article, so as to read it in its > entirety and draw one's own

Re: JDG-Type ...Fool, this is out-of-line.

2004-08-30 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 8/30/2004 7:43:45 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Hobby wrote: > The Fool wrote: > > > > Let's NOT have a flamewar with the TITLES of our posts? Seconded. -- Doug This is one string I will not make a joke title about if I feel it has gone

Re: More on AIDS

2004-08-30 Thread Doug Pensinger
JDG wrote: 1) You supplied several pages of hagiography on Clinton's AIDS policy - i.e. almost all positive, hardly a negative word to be found. 2) You then submitted the same group's AIDS reportcord of the Bush Presidency, which included 100% below-average to failing marks. It seems nearly impossi

Re: thinking about free will

2004-08-30 Thread Doug Pensinger
Dan wrote: << Reading through this post, it seems as though it might be interpreted as being written from antagonistic viewpoint. That is not my viewpoint. It is more in the nature of exploring axioms sets to look for inconsistencies and theorems that can be derived from them. It doesn't sound a

Re: Killings, evil and pictures to assure accountabillity was, Re: The Mercies of The Vatican

2004-08-30 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Horn, John wrote: Behalf Of Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten No deal. Your basic presumption is flawed. Not every German during the holocaust was automatically and without exception a participant in the holocaust and a jew murdering nazi. Since already this premise for your insults towards me is fa

Re: Killings, evil and pictures to assure accountabillity was, Re: The Mercies of The Vatican

2004-08-30 Thread Doug Pensinger
Dan wrote: I realize that this involves a switch in worldview because most of us were taught a convenient fiction in school. I certainly believed that the Nazi's had a police state, even for the Ayrians, from the start. I thought the Holocaust was very secret. But now, I accept the evidence