Re: Open-Shop, Closed-ShopRe: What are the real rules? and a bit on unions

2004-10-03 Thread Robert Seeberger
Dan Minette wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 8:43 AM > Subject: Open-Shop, Closed-ShopRe: What are the real rules? and a bit > on unions > > >> At 11:29 PM 9/17/200

Re: Open-Shop, Closed-ShopRe: What are the real rules? and a bit on unions

2004-10-03 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 8:43 AM Subject: Open-Shop, Closed-ShopRe: What are the real rules? and a bit on unions > At 11:29 PM 9/17/2004 -0500 Dan Minette wrote: > >If

Re: Br!n Re: The opinion of heaven?

2004-10-03 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 7:00 PM Subject: Re: Br!n: Re: The opinion of heaven? > At 12:08 PM 10/3/2004 -0700 Nick Arnett wrote: > >>>Although I can't help but point out

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Re: Br!n: Re: The opinion of heaven?

2004-10-03 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 12:08 PM 10/3/2004 -0700 Nick Arnett wrote: >>>Although I can't help but point out that John replaced your phrase "an >>>idological movement" with "Christianity," which is a heck of a >>>broadening, especially for a Christian >> >> >> Well, what ideological movement did *you* think he wa

Re: Bush Blows Debate: Talks to Rove in Earpiece!

2004-10-03 Thread Doug Pensinger
Erik wrote: On Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 04:37:38PM -0500, Robert G. Seeberger wrote: http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=3562 During the Presidential Debate Bush made what may be his most costly error- he exposed that heâs using an earpiece to help him answer debate questions. In the middle

Re: Bush Blows Debate: Talks to Rove in Earpiece!

2004-10-03 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 04:37:38PM -0500, Robert G. Seeberger wrote: > http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=3562 > > During the Presidential Debate Bush made what may be his most costly > error- he exposed that he’s using an earpiece to help him answer > debate questions. > > In the mi

Re: Wal-Mart's Way

2004-10-03 Thread Erik Reuter
Great article, William. In the spirit of making things easiers, here it is in an easier-to-click URL: http://tinyurl.com/4tc69 Heavyweight retailer looks inward to stay innovative in business technology. By Laurie Sullivan, InformationWeek Sept. 27, 2004 URL: http://www.informationweek.com/sto

Bush Blows Debate: Talks to Rove in Earpiece!

2004-10-03 Thread Robert G. Seeberger
http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=3562 During the Presidential Debate Bush made what may be his most costly error- he exposed that he’s using an earpiece to help him answer debate questions. In the middle of an answer bush said, "now let me finish" as if someone was interrupting him

Mount St. Helens cam

2004-10-03 Thread Gary Nunn
Mount St. Helens cam Updated every 5 minutes... http://www.fs.fed.us/gpnf/volcanocams/msh/ I don't think the above URL will wrap, but just in case. http://tinyurl.com/42nno ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re:Re: The opinion of heaven?

2004-10-03 Thread David Brin
Final note as I ask once again that "Brin:" be removed from the subject header (as I have done here.) I will be back in a week with a major political salvo I've been preparing. At that time I'll be happy to slog it out. Till then, consider this. Gregory Benford is thinking this year not only

Re: Brin: Re: The opinion of heaven?

2004-10-03 Thread David Brin
> I did not intend to question your faith or otherwise > pass judgment on > you. I meant to offer my opinion on the way you > paraphrased David, > which I think was unfair. Unfair paraphrasing is bad enough. Outright use of quotation marks plus cramming words into my mouth that I never used,

Wal-Mart's Way

2004-10-03 Thread William T Goodall
http://www.informationweek.com/shared/printableArticle.jhtml? articleID=47902662 Article about Wal-mart's IT -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ "The Macintosh uses an experimental pointing device called a 'mou

Re: Brin: Re: The opinion of heaven?

2004-10-03 Thread Nick Arnett
John D. Giorgis wrote: Although I can't help but point out that John replaced your phrase "an idological movement" with "Christianity," which is a heck of a broadening, especially for a Christian Well, what ideological movement did *you* think he was "officially" referring to? I thought it w

RE: Definition of SF

2004-10-03 Thread Horn, John
> Behalf Of JDG > > I guess the first question that would need to be answered is, does > speculative fiction exist as a separate genre for or as a > subset genre of science fiction. I have always considered speculative fiction to be a super-set of science fiction. It encompases science fiction

Re: Brin: Re: The opinion of heaven?

2004-10-03 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 08:35:51 -0400, John D. Giorgis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Where did he say that it was an official viewpoint of Christianity? " it is your fearless leader who openly supports an idological movement that officially looks forward to " There's the word "official" in plain livin

Re: This World In Arms

2004-10-03 Thread Doug Pensinger
John wrote: Of course you were. The following quote: Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spendin

Re: Brin: Re: The opinion of heaven?

2004-10-03 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 11:15 AM Sunday 10/3/04, John D. Giorgis wrote: At 07:38 AM 10/3/2004 -0700 Nick Arnett wrote: >David Brin wrote: > >> ARE YOU COMPLETELY NUTS? >> YOU USE QUOTES TO DELIBERATELY CRAM WORDS THAT I NEVER >> SAID DOWN MY MOUTH AND YOU DON'T EVEN TAKE THE TIME TO >> PONDER WHY IT MAKES ME ANGRY? > >

Re: Brin: Re: The opinion of heaven?

2004-10-03 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 07:38 AM 10/3/2004 -0700 Nick Arnett wrote: >David Brin wrote: > >> ARE YOU COMPLETELY NUTS? >> YOU USE QUOTES TO DELIBERATELY CRAM WORDS THAT I NEVER >> SAID DOWN MY MOUTH AND YOU DON'T EVEN TAKE THE TIME TO >> PONDER WHY IT MAKES ME ANGRY? > >Although I can't help but point out that John repla

Re: Br!n: Re: The opinion of heaven?

2004-10-03 Thread Nick Arnett
Jim Sharkey wrote: Nick Arnett wrote: I'll also suggest that it's getting terribly hot around here. Noticed that, did you? I could almost feel the spray of angry spit springing right out of my monitor. It was minty fresh. Clearly a sign of good dental hygiene. :) I'm not sure that's true whe

Scouted: The Evil of Country Music Literally Saps The Will To Live

2004-10-03 Thread The Fool
<> Strange but true: country music saps will to live By Steve Connor, Science Editor 01 October 2004 A study showing the link between country music and suicide has taken one of the top prizes in this year's Ig-Nobe

Election day chaos in Ohio

2004-10-03 Thread Gary Nunn
More on the voter registration fiasco in Ohio Not sure if this article can be accessed by someone that isn't registered, so again I apologize for the length. In my last post I speculated about the party affiliation of Secretary of State Blackwell, it turns out that he is Republican. Go figure.

Re: Br!n: Re: The opinion of heaven?

2004-10-03 Thread Jim Sharkey
Nick Arnett wrote: >I'll also suggest that it's getting terribly hot around here. Noticed that, did you? I could almost feel the spray of angry spit springing right out of my monitor. It was minty fresh. Clearly a sign of good dental hygiene. :) Jim 4 out of 5 dentists recommend Brin-L Mar

Scouted: Brin: PATRIOT Act II: Back From the Dead [L3]

2004-10-03 Thread The Fool
<> House May Revive Parts of Patriot Act II Thursday September 23, 2004 2:31 AM By JESSE J. HOLLAND Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON (AP) - House Republicans plan to revive portions of the Justice Department's ``Patriot

Re: Brin: Re: The opinion of heaven?

2004-10-03 Thread Nick Arnett
David Brin wrote: ARE YOU COMPLETELY NUTS? YOU USE QUOTES TO DELIBERATELY CRAM WORDS THAT I NEVER SAID DOWN MY MOUTH AND YOU DON'T EVEN TAKE THE TIME TO PONDER WHY IT MAKES ME ANGRY? Although I can't help but point out that John replaced your phrase "an idological movement" with "Christianity," wh

Re: The Next Superpower

2004-10-03 Thread Alberto Monteiro
JDG wrote: > > As for a Civil War, I definitely think that the inequality, militarism, and > totalitarianism of the Chinese State do make a Civil War much more likely > in China than in India. > /me too. And the current oil crisis is specially critic to China - which some Machievellic minds think

Re: This World In Arms

2004-10-03 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 10:25 PM 10/2/2004 -0700 Doug Pensinger wrote: > Republicans were different then. Ahem. As were Democrats. >>> >>> The difference being that the Dems are _better_ now. >> >> If you define better as the Democrats having grabbed the mantle of >> isolationism from the 1930's and 194

Re: Debate

2004-10-03 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 10:08 PM 10/3/2004 +1000 Russell Chapman wrote: >Doug Pensinger wrote: >> How many watched tonight? > >Well, I can guess that there were more than for ours... >The "Great Debate" between our 2 aspiring leaders was out-rated by >Australian Idol... In the United States, all the major TV network

Re: Brin: Re: The opinion of heaven?

2004-10-03 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 10:02 PM 10/2/2004 -0700 Doug Pensinger wrote: >>> As for lecturing me about schaedenfreude. again, it is >>> your fearless leader who openly supports an idological >>> movement that officially looks forward to 150,000 >>> people getting a special pass to heaven, then millions >>> suffering in a

Re: Debate

2004-10-03 Thread Russell Chapman
Doug Pensinger wrote: How many watched tonight? Well, I can guess that there were more than for ours... The "Great Debate" between our 2 aspiring leaders was out-rated by Australian Idol... Who won ours depended on which paper you read the next day. At least our election will be over in a week's