Thanks, Vilyehm!
Is the chat room going to work tomorrow?
I had said:
>I hope getting still another postdoc would not be too hard,
I raise "hope" to "expect"...
More cheerfully,
Ruben
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Robert Seeberger wrote
> David Brin wrote :
>>
>> In any event, the map MEANS something, Robert.
>
>Shades of Close Encounters!
>
>
>
>> Look
>> at it. Whatever your dreams and mine, about a
>> tolerant America that is united in joyful, moderate
>> disagreement, look at it.
>
>Due to the natur
Gautam wrote:
Whoever wins (my final prediction) I don't think it
will be as close as people think it will be. I think
we'll know by Wednesday morning. This with more
confidence than my actual pick for the victory.
There are several factors that lead me to believe that Kerry will win
tomorrow.
At 07:03 PM 11/1/2004 -0800 David Brin wrote:
>3) But above all, note the tactic. Attack me for
>bigotry for pointing to a map. But by all means
>IGNORE the main points of my message:
>
>That all the cheating in the news is one-sided
>That all the defections are one sided
>That we were promised i
At 11:28 PM 11/1/2004 -0600 Julia Thompson wrote:
>> > > I know many of you see the same articles on ABCnews.com that I do,
>> but I ran
>> > > across this website buried in a technology article, so some of you
>> may have
>> > > missed it.
>> > >
>> > > This website shows the predicted electoral c
--- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Margarita. I could use one one of these days. It's been over a
> month,
> and the last one was disappointing, as it was served in a glass that
> didn't have a wide enough rim to hold as much salt as I find
> necessary
> for the quantity of margari
Robert Seeberger wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 9:58 PM
> Subject: Re: Predicted electoral votes listed by state
>
> > Gary Nunn wrote:
> > >
> > > I know m
Gautam Mukunda wrote:
>
> --- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If I were voting for the first time in my county, I
> > would have had to
> > show photo ID.
>
> A lot of the time (possibly to avoid this problem?)
> fake voters are not created out of whole cloth - they
> are people who
Julia Thompson wrote:
>
> "John D. Giorgis" wrote:
> >
> > 6-8 last week, Yuck.52-50 for the year. Double yuck. And, the Upset
> > Special falls to 4-3 after the Bills bumble and stumble their way to a loss
> > vs. the punchless Ravens.
> > Well, the Bills' season may be over, but I will ke
At 10:28 PM 11/1/2004 -0500 John D. Giorgis wrote:
>Final Totals: Bush 290, with 50.1% of the vote. Kerry 248 with 48.4% of
>the vote.
>
>If Kerry does win, I believe with about 90% confidence that it will be one
>of the following scenarios:
>1) FL and OH
>2) FL, WI, and MN
>3) OH, WI, MN, NH,
--- "Robert G. Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/33124.htm
>
> Osama bin Laden warned in his October Surprise video that he will be
> closely monitoring the state-by-state election returns in tomorrow's
> presidential race and will spare any state
http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/33124.htm
Osama bin Laden warned in his October Surprise video that he will be
closely monitoring the state-by-state election returns in tomorrow's
presidential race and will spare any state that votes against
President Bush from being attacked, according
Robert Seeberger wrote:
> 11 AM GMT til 3 AM GMT for the continental States and add 3 hours (I
> think) for Alaska and Hawaii.
Thanks :)
Ritu
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- Original Message -
From: "Ritu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Killer Bs Discussion'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 10:35 PM
Subject: RE: My election mantras
>
> Nick Arnett wrote:
>
> > Whoever wins, it'll be okay.
> >
> > This is not to say that I don't have opinions
- Original Message -
From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: Predicted electoral votes listed by state
> Gary Nunn wrote:
> >
> > I know many of you see the same articles on ABCnews
Nick Arnett wrote:
> Whoever wins, it'll be okay.
>
> This is not to say that I don't have opinions... but they're just my
> opinions.
>
> Whoever wins, he won't be perfect, nor will he make us perfect.
> Sometimes the "wrong" guy wins to teach us a lesson. I'm open to the
> idea that this
- Original Message -
From: "David Brin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: Brin: some final notes about the aftermath
>
> --- Robert Seeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > Speaking as a homeboy in
--- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If I were voting for the first time in my county, I
> would have had to
> show photo ID.
A lot of the time (possibly to avoid this problem?)
fake voters are not created out of whole cloth - they
are people who have moved and/or died, but are still
le
- Original Message -
From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: I've been Bushwacked
> Dan Minette wrote:
> >
> > I just noticed that my Kerry sign was stolen while my wife and I were
go
Robert Seeberger wrote:
> xponent
> Vote Ye Bloody Bastards! Maru
> rob
>
I did. Last week.
Now I, like a lot of my close friends, just want it all to be over.
I think I'm going to have a beer and watch some of the travesty that is
tonight's Monday Night Football game now
Julia
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Gautam Mukunda wrote:
>
> --- Nick Arnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I'm surprised that you seem to be saying this as if
> > it were taken for
> > granted. Is the existence of this "machine"
> > documented somewhere? I
> > don't even understand how an outsider to such a
> > system could e
Dan Minette wrote:
>
> I just noticed that my Kerry sign was stolen while my wife and I were gone
> for the weekend. My son said it was last Saturday night. Several neighbor
> signs were stolen as well (we have a very small Democratic ghetto on our
> half of the street.) So far, no perpetrator h
The Columbus Dispatch Poll is one of my favorite polls despite its
unconventional methodology, it has produced good results in the past, and
its methodology is neverthless respected by the academic polling community.
The result of this year's poll, however, is simply stunning to say the least:
Gary Nunn wrote:
>
> I know many of you see the same articles on ABCnews.com that I do, but I ran
> across this website buried in a technology article, so some of you may have
> missed it.
>
> This website shows the predicted electoral college votes per state based on
> polls.
>
> Kind of intere
O.k., time for my final prediction.
The baseline is, of course, the 2000 map.From this, I am basing my
prediction based on State polls, long-term trends, and the reading of the
tea leaves from the actions of the two campaigns.
Pacific - Nobody has visited Oregon since the last debate ende
--- JDG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And, its only a civil war if your definition of
> democracy is one in which
> only your side is allowed to winl
Typical.
1) the side that stops at nothing - and is engaged in
ALL the rampant cheatin - calling this kettle black.
2) The side that was oppose
At 06:13 PM 11/1/2004 -0800 David Brin wrote:
>I never said that all people in the south are
>red-necks. Tomorrow, forty % + of them will be
>disenfranchised. The 40% who can see and want a
>modern world.
Disenfranchised???
>Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord...
At 05:11 PM 11/1/2004 -0800 David Brin wrote:
>This is a civil war and we did not start it. We are
>fighting for the Union.
Its only a civil war if y'all decide to leave, Dr. Brin.
And, its only a civil war if your definition of democracy is one in which
only your side is allowed to winl
JDG
In a message dated 11/1/2004 7:16:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
William Taylor wrote:
>In a short four years, a fourteen year old female with a black belt
>will have no problem warding off the herds of free range eighteen
>year old males at the Science Fiction Con
From: Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Shocked shocked
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:17:17 -0700
On Oct 27, 2004, at 2:08 PM, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 10:36:08AM -0700, Dave Land
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From: "David Brin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: Brin: An inital note about the teen-rmath
>
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Was her love of judo by chance or by design?
>
>
--- Dan,
I never said that all people in the south are
red-necks. Tomorrow, forty % + of them will be
disenfranchised. The 40% who can see and want a
modern world.
Of the majority, I am sure than many perceive
themselves as wonderful decent people... and they
probably tithe more charity than m
From: Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Shocked shocked
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 07:30:26 -0400
On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 11:07:37PM -0500, Julia Thompson wrote:
>
> That's Erik for you -- he's g
William Taylor wrote:
>In a short four years, a fourteen year old female with a black belt
>will have no problem warding off the herds of free range eighteen
>year old males at the Science Fiction Conventions.
Hehe. That's certainly one way to handle fanboys. I fear my
problem will be slight
Doug Pensinger wrote:
>And hey, stick around, we might even discuss SF now and then...
Them's the kinda words what can git a man strung up 'round these parts, mister. ;)
Jim
"Slim" Maru
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In a message dated 11/1/2004 6:23:06 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I hope getting still another postdoc would not be too hard,
I did not know that the mail was so sick that it needed to have
doctors specially trained for it.
I remember when the Nixon stamp came ou
- Original Message -
From: "David Brin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: Brin: some final notes about the aftermath
>
> --- Robert Seeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > Speaking as a homeboy in
First the brag...
http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0410704
I finished up two trivial details while chatting
on the Brin-L chatroom last Wednesday...
Now the Fear.
It is job application season...
I need to get something *now*, my current postdoc expires in August.
http://members.aas.org/JobReg/Jobreg
In a message dated 11/1/2004 6:11:08 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This attitude toward - and by - our women is, in my
opinion, the chief reason why our enemies have decided
that we simply have to go.
Chat is better than chattel or cattle.
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--- Robert Seeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Speaking as a homeboy in one of the reddest of the
> red states, I'll
> throw in with you Gautam.
> This is one nation, regardless of who leads it.
> Regardless of
> transient divisions.
> When I wake up on the third, all of you will still
> be my
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Was her love of judo by chance or by design?
Actually, it's tang soo do (Korean) karate. Less
heavy contact, more like a dance. Kids, esp girls
like that better. Later, when toughened up, I plan to
inveigle her to do judo.
I had to insist on this course, for a w
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From: "Gautam Mukunda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: Brin: some final notes about the aftermath
> --- David Brin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Everybody, please remind friend
In a message dated 11/1/2004 4:43:28 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I blush at my sexism. Now I must drive my 10 year old
daughter to one of the final lessons before she tests
for her black belt... before the swim team practice
"for the 2008 Olympics"...so am I forgive
--- Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just noticed that my Kerry sign was stolen while
> my wife and I were gone
> for the weekend. My son said it was last Saturday
> night. Several neighbor
> signs were stolen as well (we have a very small
> Democratic ghetto on our
> half of the street
On 1 Nov 2004, at 9:55 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you are going to be watching the TV with one eye Tuesday night, and
on the
computer with the other. then how about having the Brin-L room up and
running?
Trade local horror stories.
Play 'Spot the lawyer.'
Play the "Hi, Bob" game with Dan Ra
--- Gautam
>Surely you don't mean
> what you just wrote.
You are right. As Eisenhower decided when he
nationalized the reserves in Mississippi, it is all
one nation and the red states are going to have to
rejoin the Union. We'll be gentle - as Lincoln
prescribed and as Martin Luther King sugges
--- Robert Seeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Doc, I want to impose upon you for a second to
> object to the
> description of the Iraq engagement as a "quagmire".
> IMO it is more accurate to describe Iraq as a "tar
> baby".
I see your point. But in fact, I perceive a pretty
good exit strate
--- Nick Arnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gautam Mukunda wrote:
> Indeed. Do you know how prosecutors respond to this
> sort of
> observation? It seems so over the top outrageous
> that it couldn't
> stand... or am I being too naive?
Too naive, I think :-) I don't believe that anyone in
li
I just noticed that my Kerry sign was stolen while my wife and I were gone
for the weekend. My son said it was last Saturday night. Several neighbor
signs were stolen as well (we have a very small Democratic ghetto on our
half of the street.) So far, no perpetrator has been caught, but
I SUSPECT
--- David Brin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Everybody, please remind friends in Ohio,
> Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Minnesota, that their great
> grandfathers died at Antietem and Gettysburg,
> fighting
> for the half of the map that's blue.
I beg your pardon? As Abraham Lincoln said to General
M
Nick Arnett wrote:
>Nor me, except that I see that one could make slippery slope argument
>that this would be a step in the direction of a national id card. I've
>always found a bit bizarre not to have to show id to vote, given how
>important it is. IIRC, around here, at least, you do have t
And hey, stick around, we might even discuss SF now and then...
--
Doug
Hello Doug,
There is a Heinline novel about an actor who becomes President of Earth.
I remember reading it as a child and listening with care when Heinline's aged
actor reflects on his life. The actor notes how som
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From: "David Brin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: Brin: some final notes about the aftermath
> overwhelming victory, another quagmire fighting a
Doc, I want to impose upon you f
--- kerri miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ..and wives and mothers, too. Plenty of women
> serving in our military
> have had their tours extended.
I blush at my sexism. Now I must drive my 10 year old
daughter to one of the final lessons before she tests
for her black belt... before the s
--- David Brin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> And a backdoor draft, hauling husbands and fathers
> away from their families and jobs for a year+ -
> turning our reserves into a shambles.
..and wives and mothers, too. Plenty of women serving in our military
have had their tours extended.
-k-
--- Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Cisneros was indicted and pleaded guilty, David. I
> remember being mad at > him because he seemed to
have such promise. IIRC, > both the indictment and
> the plea was while Clinton was in office.
Yes, and I am guilty of a technical polemical
sophistr
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From: "Dan Minette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: Brin: some final notes about the aftermath
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "d.brin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAI
Gautam Mukunda wrote:
It's somewhat suspicious, for
example, that (as Will notes) Franklin County, OH has
815,000 residents 18 and over and 845,000 registered
voters. This is a remarkably high voter registration
rate, to put it mildly.
Indeed. Do you know how prosecutors respond to this sort of
--- Nick Arnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm surprised that you seem to be saying this as if
> it were taken for
> granted. Is the existence of this "machine"
> documented somewhere? I
> don't even understand how an outsider to such a
> system could evaluate
> its size or effectiveness.
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From: "d.brin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 4:34 PM
Subject: re: Brin: some final notes about the aftermath
>
> Infinite because - despite Ashcroft's relentless efforts - there have
> been NO indic
I know many of you see the same articles on ABCnews.com that I do, but I ran
across this website buried in a technology article, so some of you may have
missed it.
This website shows the predicted electoral college votes per state based on
polls.
Kind of interesting...
By the way, this site is
Once-and-future brineller Stefan Jones has forwarded the following
about dirty tricks and urges everyone to keep their eyes open.
http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/news/breaking_news/10050609.htm
Stefan also says: "I hope the folks who think Bush was appointed by
God don't take a Kerry win to
Whoever wins, it'll be okay.
This is not to say that I don't have opinions... but they're just my
opinions.
Whoever wins, he won't be perfect, nor will he make us perfect.
Sometimes the "wrong" guy wins to teach us a lesson. I'm open to the
idea that this could be the case whoever wins this el
Gautam Mukunda wrote:
2. The Democratic Party's rather impressive machine to
deliver fake/double votes in a large number of states
seem to be at its peak of effectiveness, with little
to no ability to check on voter authenticity in a
bunch of states.
I'm surprised that you seem to be saying this
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From: "Gautam Mukunda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 4:02 PM
Subject: Predictions, and this explains everything
> First, the single news story that explains everything
> about the 2004 election:
>
First, the single news story that explains everything
about the 2004 election:
http://landing.msn.ancestry.com/famoustree/strange/bushkerry/trees.aspx?html=main&sourceCode=13673
Anyways, predictions? Analytically, I think it will
be Bush. The cards seem, very slightly, to be
breaking his way. M
If you are going to be watching the TV with one eye Tuesday night, and on the
computer with the other. then how about having the Brin-L room up and running?
Trade local horror stories.
Play 'Spot the lawyer.'
Play the "Hi, Bob" game with Dan Rather instead of with Bob Newhart. (Every
time D
Doug Pensinger wrote:
>MM wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>> Please remember to set back your clocks one century on Tuesday night.
>>
>
>Oh come on Miron, were going to win, big time. 8^)
>
>And by the way welcome to the list to all new members - Miron, Ruben,
>Chad, Martin from the Culture list (apol
A Major Supply-Sider Defects...
Former chief editorial writer for the Wall Street Journal and one of
the architects of Ronald Reagan's "supply side economics" - Jude
Wanniski - has written a passionate letter explaining his
enthusiastic support for Senator Kerry... while at the same time
inten
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