Re: Forget global warming, let's make a difference

2005-06-14 Thread Russell Chapman
Erik Reuter wrote: http://www.money.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2005/06/13/ccpers13.xml&menuId=242&sSheet=/money/2005/06/13/ixfrontcity.html Personal view: Forget global warming. Let's make a real difference Moreover, they should also tell what they expect the cost of the Kyoto

RE: Gulags

2005-06-14 Thread Horn, John
> Behalf Of Gary Denton > This is pretty basic stuff and trying to argue that none of the Geneva > Conventions apply just lowers the standing of the United States in the > world. What REALLY bothers me about all this is this: If the United States wants to hold itself out as a paragon to the rest

Re: Gulags

2005-06-14 Thread Russell Chapman
William T Goodall wrote: Instead of the present incredibly wasteful and expensive prison system just transport all serious criminals to a tropical resort island and give them free booze, drugs and hookers for life. This would be far cheaper than the present prison system, more humane, and

Re: life imitates art imitating life?

2005-06-14 Thread Robert Seeberger
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Re: Gulags

2005-06-14 Thread Gary Denton
On 6/13/05, Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You are focusing on one section in several Geneva Conventions. I will > repeat what I have above. > > >Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions of 1949 and Additional > >Protocol II apply to prisoners regardless of the status of the legal

apologies to real brinellers

2005-06-14 Thread d.brin
Sorry to the rest of you for getting sucked in.Fanboy sniping attacks are part of the territory and I generally snub the little gnats. Got fooled this time by the important topic (saving the world). We all depend upon a civilization in which the ratio of citizens to psychopaths gradua

Re: Brin: Forget global warming, let's make a difference

2005-06-14 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 6/14/05, Warren Ockrassa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jun 14, 2005, at 12:32 PM, David Brin wrote: > > > PS Today announced. The service academies have seen > > a plummet in applications of unprecedented > > proportions. > > The "No Child Left Behind" bill had an elegant little solution b

Re: Brin: Re: Forget global warming, let's make a difference

2005-06-14 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 6/14/05, Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * David Brin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > Please drop dead. > > Eventually, perhaps. > > > You are a bona fide asshole and I want to hear from you never again. > > I can keep playing these games as long as you can. I was going to let it >

Brin: Re: someone

2005-06-14 Thread Erik Reuter
* d.brin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Someone explain to the screeching fagela that I have a lot of > experience with obsessive fanboy stalkers. He is welcome at any time > to approach and test his theory that I am a sissy. I will give him > first shot and then hand him whatever of his body part

someone

2005-06-14 Thread d.brin
Someone explain to the screeching fagela that I have a lot of experience with obsessive fanboy stalkers. He is welcome at any time to approach and test his theory that I am a sissy. I will give him first shot and then hand him whatever of his body parts he cares to name. Like Jerry P, I

Brin: Re: Forget global warming, let's make a difference

2005-06-14 Thread Erik Reuter
* David Brin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Please drop dead. Eventually, perhaps. > You are a bona fide asshole and I want to hear from you never again. I can keep playing these games as long as you can. I was going to let it drop, but you obviously don't want it to drop. You want to play games.

Re: Even better links on this project Re: life imitates art imitating life?

2005-06-14 Thread David Brin
--- Joe Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Not to disparage David, but there is a pretty big > literature on 3-D > >printers way before David's book. Um, pay attention please, Joe. The phrase "programmable matter" is already trademarked by author Wil McCarthy, whose concepts have been delin

Forget global warming, let's make a difference

2005-06-14 Thread David Brin
> You might try, "I was wrong" instead of the whining. Please drop dead. In several years I have not used ad hominem language but I am going to break that fast now. You are a bona fide asshole and I want to hear from you never again. ___ http://www

Re: Brin: Forget global warming, let's make a difference

2005-06-14 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Jun 14, 2005, at 12:32 PM, David Brin wrote: PS Today announced. The service academies have seen a plummet in applications of unprecedented proportions. The "No Child Left Behind" bill had an elegant little solution built into it, one that has seen essentially no publicity. Kids' school

Re: Brin: Forget global warming, let's make a difference

2005-06-14 Thread Erik Reuter
* David Brin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > This is foul-mouthed insulting and sophistry. Actually, no, this is facts. > For several messages ER has directed nasty ad hominem attacks at me. Not at all. I did not consider your comments about Lomborg and neocons to be nasty attacks. I used the exa

Re: Discovery Channel's "Greatest American"

2005-06-14 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Jun 14, 2005, at 4:03 AM, Leonard Matusik wrote: Naw , the greatest Jew was that carpenter guy... Justin, Joshua, Joey something like that. Fred. Fred Howard Christ. Worked in marketing, not carpentry. Pretty good guy. Or do you mean his brother? Either him or that Schindler fella

Re: Writing software

2005-06-14 Thread Max Battcher
Dave Land wrote: On Jun 14, 2005, at 9:59 AM, William T Goodall wrote: Since it saves all the versions in one file as diffs in a proprietary undocumented format I would worry about the fragility of the resulting file and how to recover *any* version should it get corrupted. In Word, this is

Re: Brin: Forget global warming, let's make a difference

2005-06-14 Thread David Brin
This is foul-mouthed insulting and sophistry. For several messages ER has directed nasty ad hominem attacks at me. I want the "Brin:" label removed from this set of exchanges. He has reminded me why I opted out. BTW, none of his rants change the essential fact. The neocons first denied warming

Re: Writing software

2005-06-14 Thread Dave Land
On Jun 14, 2005, at 9:59 AM, William T Goodall wrote: On 14 Jun 2005, at 11:37 am, Max Battcher wrote: Dave Land wrote: OpenOffice.org, which is the free (as in beer and speech) version of Sun's StarOffice package, which it (Sun) posits as an alternative to Microsoft Office, has versioning b

Re: Writing software

2005-06-14 Thread William T Goodall
On 14 Jun 2005, at 11:37 am, Max Battcher wrote: Dave Land wrote: OpenOffice.org, which is the free (as in beer and speech) version of Sun's StarOffice package, which it (Sun) posits as an alternative to Microsoft Office, has versioning built in. In the File menu is a "Versions..." item that

Brin. Re: life imitates art imitating life?

2005-06-14 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 6/14/2005 7:33:25 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And in not one case did anyone mention where they got the idea. sniff. Sniff? One large monogrammed handkerchief coming right up. __ |

Re: Writing software

2005-06-14 Thread Max Battcher
Dave Land wrote: OpenOffice.org, which is the free (as in beer and speech) version of Sun's StarOffice package, which it (Sun) posits as an alternative to Microsoft Office, has versioning built in. In the File menu is a "Versions..." item that allows you to create multiple versions of a work in

life imitates art imitating life?

2005-06-14 Thread d.brin
Has anyone seen this? I mean, they even call it claytronics! This is the fourth major fictional idea of mine that has been at least partly reified by researchers this year alone. And in not one case did anyone mention where they got the idea. sniff. Somebody oughta tell em... The repl

Where the heck are all the terrorist?

2005-06-14 Thread Leonard Matusik
I've been thinking again. 3 1/2 years ago the US gov declared "War on Terrorism" and I have yet to figure out, WHERE are all the terrorists? I mean, how hard could it BE to conduct a terrorism campaign in the U.S.? Especially, if one had access to the resources of a nation-state or mediu

Re: Brin: Forget global warming, let's make a difference

2005-06-14 Thread Erik Reuter
* David Brin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > SHow me where he acknowledges any need to do anything at all. Dan beat me to it. See the passage Dan quotes. Lomborg is a practical guy, and the passage Dan found demonstrates it. Rather than spending $150B a year reducing carbon emissions to make a minim

Re: Discovery Channel's "Greatest American"

2005-06-14 Thread Leonard Matusik
-Original Message- From: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:31:51 -0400 To: Killer Bs Discussion Sent: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Discovery Channel's "Greatest American" On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:19:22 -0400 "John D. Giorgis" wrote: If you think that's bad, the TV ads for th

Re: Writing software

2005-06-14 Thread G. D. Akin
Dave asked: > > > I'm sure this has come up before, but what software is there out there that > > can help you manage versions. As I get further into my English program, I > > find that I'm having a hard time keeping track of what's what and when I > > wrote what when? > > > > Low- and no-cost pre

Re: Writing software

2005-06-14 Thread Dave Land
On Jun 13, 2005, at 5:12 AM, G. D. Akin wrote: Low- and no-cost preferred but I am interested in all. OpenOffice.org, which is the free (as in beer and speech) version of Sun's StarOffice package, which it (Sun) posits as an alternative to Microsoft Office, has versioning built in. In the Fil