Re: Are you in the right religion?

2005-08-03 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Aug 2, 2005, at 8:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/2/2005 8:14:15 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Liberal Quakers? All their carts come with horses in Depends. Anti-polution devices, dontcha know. Wrong group. You're thinking of the Amish.

Re: Are you in the right religion?

2005-08-03 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 10:13 PM Tuesday 8/2/2005, Doug Pensinger wrote: Liberal Quakers? Produce microwavable oatmeal. -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Are you in the right religion?

2005-08-03 Thread Russell Chapman
Dave Land wrote: Apparently, I AM in the right religion: Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (100%). I currently attend and worship at a United Methodist church, which is pretty well over on the Liberal end of Mainline Christian Protestantism. I find it fascinating that Roman Catholocism

Re: Gulags

2005-08-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 3 Aug 2005, at 12:24 am, Dave Land wrote: On Aug 2, 2005, at 3:35 PM, William T Goodall wrote: I don't think it's easily eradicated. I didn't say that. I said, and you quoted it, that 'religion is one of the easiest causes of evil to eradicate.' True. Eradicating religion isn't

Re: Gulags

2005-08-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 3 Aug 2005, at 4:29 am, Doug Pensinger wrote: William wrote: Eradicating religion isn't an easy project, but it is easier than changing human nature or one of the other hard to eradicate causes of evil. I would argue that a need to explain the unexplainable _is_ human nature

Re: Are you in the right religion?

2005-08-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 3 Aug 2005, at 12:59 am, Warren Ockrassa wrote: Apropos of nothing specific, here's a quiz that alleges to tell you which religions are more in line with your personal weltanschauung: http://beliefnet.com/story/76/story_7665_1.html 1. Secular Humanism (100%) 2. Unitarian Universalism

Re: Are you in the right religion?

2005-08-03 Thread Jean-Louis Couturier
2005/8/3, Russell Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I find it fascinating that Roman Catholocism is so remote from the Christian Protestants. According to mine, I am 98% Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants, yet only 14% Catholic. In between is 30% Islam, 66% Buddhism, and 82% Neo-Pagan.

RE: Are you in the right religion?

2005-08-03 Thread Nick Lidster
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean-Louis Couturier Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 10:24 AM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Are you in the right religion? 2005/8/3, Russell Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I find it fascinating

Re: Gulags

2005-08-03 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Aug 3, 2005, at 5:39 AM, William T Goodall wrote: This new American Lysenkoism, based on ridiculous religious ideas, will decimate a generation of potential life-scientists in the USA. I'm at least as disturbed by this as you are, but it's a bit of a leap to go from ID-iocy to to

Re: Gulags

2005-08-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 3 Aug 2005, at 4:26 pm, Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Aug 3, 2005, at 5:39 AM, William T Goodall wrote: This new American Lysenkoism, based on ridiculous religious ideas, will decimate a generation of potential life-scientists in the USA. I'm at least as disturbed by this as you are,

Weekly Chat Reminder

2005-08-03 Thread William T Goodall
As Steve said, The Brin-L weekly chat has been a list tradition for over six years. Way back on 27 May, 1998, Marco Maisenhelder first set up a chatroom for the list, and on the next day, he established a weekly chat time. We've been through several servers, chat technologies, and even casts of

Re: Gulags

2005-08-03 Thread Dave Land
On Aug 3, 2005, at 8:42 AM, William T Goodall wrote: I've begun to realize you're kind of in a rut here. :\ Better than the rut of evil superstitious nonsense :) A rut that prevents critical thinking is a rut that prevents critical thinking, whether it is based on belief in pink unicorns or

Re: What interrogation techniques are ethical and practical?

2005-08-03 Thread Deborah Harrell
Gary Denton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/11/05, Deborah Harrell wrote: snippage (It appears that the following was incorrectly attributed to Dan; I actually wrote this paragraph.) If torture were used on people who have a real chance of providing a lead in a genuine ticking bomb

Re: Gulags

2005-08-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 3 Aug 2005, at 7:15 pm, Dave Land wrote: On Aug 3, 2005, at 8:42 AM, William T Goodall wrote: I've begun to realize you're kind of in a rut here. :\ Better than the rut of evil superstitious nonsense :) A rut that prevents critical thinking is a rut that prevents critical thinking,

Re: Gulags

2005-08-03 Thread Deborah Harrell
William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Better than the rut of evil superstitious nonsense :) gigantic yawn B-O-R-I-N-G... Do you really think that the Broken Record technique (which is what you're applying here) is going to accomplish your goals - whatever the heck they are? If

Re: Gulags

2005-08-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 3 Aug 2005, at 9:25 pm, Deborah Harrell wrote: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Better than the rut of evil superstitious nonsense :) gigantic yawn B-O-R-I-N-G... Do you really think that the Broken Record technique (which is what you're applying here) is going to

Re: Are you in the right religion?

2005-08-03 Thread Deborah Harrell
Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apropos of nothing specific, here's a quiz that alleges to tell you which religions are more in line with your personal weltanschauung: http://beliefnet.com/story/76/story_7665_1.html I got (1-9 don't surprise me much): 1.Unitarian

Re: Gulags

2005-08-03 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Aug 3, 2005, at 1:50 PM, William T Goodall wrote: LOL. I'd rather be right than interesting any day of the week :) Hmm, so far you're 0 for 2. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror

Re: Gulags

2005-08-03 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL. I'd rather be right than interesting any day of the week :) -- William T Goodall I note (for historical interest, if nothing else) than Henry Clay once said I'd rather be right than President. To which Andrew Jackson (I believe)

Re: Gulags

2005-08-03 Thread Deborah Harrell
William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3 Aug 2005, at 9:25 pm, Deborah Harrell wrote: snip If you want to be interesting, *please* use some creativity instead of monotone, monochrome sheepspeak. LOL. I'd rather be right than interesting any day of the week :) So this is

Designer Genes (was: Gulags)

2005-08-03 Thread Deborah Harrell
William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip ShrubMoron is speaking out on behalf of intelligent design again: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na- creation3aug03,0,3586432.story?track=tottext http://tinyurl.com/8zgqu Advocates of an alternative to the theory of

Re: Designer Genes (was: Gulags)

2005-08-03 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I personally find most of Nature so complexly gorgeous as to suggest a Designer, let us consider merely one facet of anatomy: the proximity of the procreative organs to eliminatory orifices. Need I say more? Debbi Tymbrimi Humor, Or

Is this really necessary advice?

2005-08-03 Thread Warren Ockrassa
Apparently this sign was outside a Louisiana church a while back. http://www.churchsigngenerator.com/churchsigns.php?filter=dishonor Perhaps by denying the value of religion certain individuals are suggesting that incest is acceptable. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books

Black Days In July

2005-08-03 Thread Deborah Harrell
Commuters in London, children getting candy in Iraq, holiday-makers in Egypt...there is no excuse or justification for such attacks. Then there was this: http://www.guardian.co.uk/france/story/0,11882,1537600,00.html Key figures in the largest child abuse trial ever held in France were sentenced

Re: Gulags

2005-08-03 Thread Dave Land
On Aug 3, 2005, at 2:18 PM, Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL. I'd rather be right than interesting any day of the week :) -- William T Goodall I note (for historical interest, if nothing else) than Henry Clay once said I'd rather be right than

Re: Is this really necessary advice?

2005-08-03 Thread Dave Land
On Aug 3, 2005, at 2:40 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: Apparently this sign was outside a Louisiana church a while back. http://www.churchsigngenerator.com/churchsigns.php?filter=dishonor Perhaps by denying the value of religion certain individuals are suggesting that incest is acceptable.

Re: Gulags

2005-08-03 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 03:25 PM Wednesday 8/3/2005, Deborah Harrell wrote: Debbi Four Feet Good, Two Feet Bad Maru Whoever said that size doesn't matter . . . . -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Gulags

2005-08-03 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 03:50 PM Wednesday 8/3/2005, William T Goodall wrote: On 3 Aug 2005, at 9:25 pm, Deborah Harrell wrote: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Better than the rut of evil superstitious nonsense :) gigantic yawn B-O-R-I-N-G... Do you really think that the Broken Record

Yet There Are Glimmers...

2005-08-03 Thread Deborah Harrell
Finally, moderate Muslims are speaking out more strongly: http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/07/28/american.muslims.ap/ American Muslim scholars who interpret religious law for their community issued an edict Thursday condemning terrorism against civilians in response to the wave of deadly attacks in

Re: Designer Genes and Gulags

2005-08-03 Thread Deborah Harrell
Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I personally find most of Nature so complexly gorgeous as to suggest a Designer, let us consider merely one facet of anatomy: the proximity of the procreative organs to eliminatory orifices.

Re: Gulags

2005-08-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 3 Aug 2005, at 11:18 pm, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 03:50 PM Wednesday 8/3/2005, William T Goodall wrote: On 3 Aug 2005, at 9:25 pm, Deborah Harrell wrote: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Better than the rut of evil superstitious nonsense :) gigantic yawn

Widely different reports of prison rape between UK and US

2005-08-03 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 6:59 PM Subject: Re: Gulags http://www.spr.org/en/academicarticles/odonnell.html Why is it that an aspect of prison life that appears to be so

Re: Widely different reports of prison rape between UK and US

2005-08-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 4 Aug 2005, at 2:01 am, Dan Minette wrote: - Original Message - From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 6:59 PM Subject: Re: Gulags http://www.spr.org/en/academicarticles/odonnell.html Why is it

Re: What interrogation techniques are ethical and practical?

2005-08-03 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 2:15 PM Subject: Re: What interrogation techniques are ethical and practical? Similarly, I don't think that the government should decide whose

RE: Are you in the right religion?

2005-08-03 Thread Andrew Paul
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Deborah Harrell http://beliefnet.com/story/76/story_7665_1.html I got (1-9 don't surprise me much): 1. Unitarian Universalism (100%) 2. Liberal Quakers (94%) 3. Secular Humanism (92%) 4. Theravada Buddhism (88%) 5. Mainline to

Re: Are you in the right religion?

2005-08-03 Thread Dan Minette
Oy vey, it thinks I'm Jewish. :-) Dan M. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Designer Genes and Gulags

2005-08-03 Thread Julia Thompson
Deborah Harrell wrote: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I personally find most of Nature so complexly gorgeous as to suggest a Designer, let us consider merely one facet of anatomy: the proximity of the procreative organs to

Re: Are you in the right religion?

2005-08-03 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 10:14 PM Wednesday 8/3/2005, Dan Minette wrote: Oy vey, it thinks I'm Jewish. :-) Sometimes any possible response would come up a bit short . . . -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l