Re: Br!n: AIs Nanos... dangerous children?

2005-11-29 Thread Julia Thompson
Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Nov 27, 2005, at 8:49 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Nov 21, 2005, at 2:05 PM, David Brin wrote: Two very strong points. Though please remember there are some honest and intelligent Republicans. I even know a few. FWIW, my state has

Re: Douglass North: new book

2005-11-29 Thread Robert J. Chassell
Really, this should be entitled `romantics, feudalists, and exchange'. Here is part 4 of my notes on Douglass North's new book, Understanding the Process of Economic Change, except these are not notes but are thoughts inspired by North as well as by David Brin. (Part 3 was the day before

Re: Papers Please!

2005-11-29 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 28, 2005, at 8:35 PM, The Fool wrote: http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/11/28/D8E5RPBO5.html Miami police announced Monday they will stage random shows of force at hotels, banks and other public places to keep terrorists guessing and remind people to be vigilant. He means afraid. You

Arab-Israel 1948, 1967 1973 wars

2005-11-29 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Andrew Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 9:57 PM Subject: RE: Bitter Fruit I am to young to recall the politics and events of that time. As you paint it, a defacto state of war existed

RE: Bitter Fruit

2005-11-29 Thread Robert J. Chassell
Why will North Korea pose a direct threat to Japan when, say, China doesn't, or perhaps more pertinently, wont? This is the `crazy man' ploy. I have a strong belief. The argument is that outsiders will think that the North Korean government is irrationally committed to one belief or

Re: Bitter Fruit

2005-11-29 Thread Gary Denton
On 11/28/05, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Gary Denton [EMAIL PROTECTED] The people pushing this war don't care much about the American economy as a whole - their biggest friends are in the defense-and oil related industries. This is a profiteers

Re: Bitter Fruit

2005-11-29 Thread Gary Denton
In a hurry to leave and hit send with some obvious spelling and grammar mistakes - sorry. -- Gary Denton http://www.apollocon.org June 23-25, 2006 The budget should be balanced; the treasury should be refilled; public debt should be reduced; and the arrogance of public officials should be

Re: Bitter Fruit

2005-11-29 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Gary Denton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 4:22 PM Subject: Re: Bitter Fruit On 11/28/05, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Gary Denton [EMAIL

Re: Arab-Israel 1948, 1967 1973 wars

2005-11-29 Thread Doug Pensinger
Dan wrote: I've seen this sort of reasoning from a number of Europeans. My view, from the history, was the only constraint on the Arabs was the view that their attacks might fail. When they thought they had a reasonable chance of success, they attacked. When they thought the attacks would

Re: Arab-Israel 1948, 1967 1973 wars

2005-11-29 Thread The Fool
From: Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dan wrote: [Isreal] Didn't we beat that corpse into fine bone fragments and teeth a few years ago? ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

RE: Arab-Israel 1948, 1967 1973 wars

2005-11-29 Thread Andrew Paul
From: Dan Minette From: Andrew Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am to young to recall the politics and events of that time. As you paint it, a defacto state of war existed anyway, in which case it was not really a pre-emptive strike. Troops were being moved into an agreed de-militarized zone

Re: Arab-Israel 1948, 1967 1973 wars

2005-11-29 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Andrew Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 6:57 PM Subject: RE: Arab-Israel 1948, 1967 1973 wars Fine, I wont quibble about definitions. Its actually interesting, that some may call things like

Brin: (pause) Californians fight back against Diebold!

2005-11-29 Thread The Fool
Dr. Brin to answer Mike and the others defending diebold, it's precicely because the source code WAS leaked that some people (me, blackbox voting) really don't trust diebold. The leaked source code showed that the diebold software keeps 3 sets of books and has a backdoor built right in. Do you

RE: Arab-Israel 1948, 1967 1973 wars

2005-11-29 Thread Andrew Paul
From: Dan Minette From: Andrew Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fine, I wont quibble about definitions. Its actually interesting, that some may call things like the war on Iraq, a pre-emptive strike when in reality it is a war of aggression. It certainly isn't a typical war of

Re: Brin: (pause) Californians fight back against Diebold!

2005-11-29 Thread David Brin
And posting comments in 'blogger' is...difficult. 'Blogger' is...Complete Garbage. Sorry about that.I merely find it irksome. May I repost your comment? ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Br!n: AIs Nanos... dangerous children?

2005-11-29 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Nov 29, 2005, at 7:22 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: In the Phoenix area. So not so close. But I bet it's prettier where your stepfather is. (For some definition of pretty, anyway.) Depends. The Northern Mohave Desert tends to shade a lot toward olive drab, with pale rust basalt knurls all

Re: Brin: AIs Nanos... dangerous children?

2005-11-29 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Nov 26, 2005, at 11:51 PM, Dave Land wrote: On Nov 26, 2005, at 9:47 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Nov 21, 2005, at 2:05 PM, David Brin wrote: Two very strong points. Though please remember there are some honest and intelligent Republicans. I even know a few. FWIW, my state has

RE: Brin: AIs Nanos... dangerous children?

2005-11-29 Thread Andrew Paul
From: Warren Ockrassa Probably I'm confusing correlation with causation again. It does happen to me from time to time. Maybe a better formulation is that those who are vicious, money-grubbing bastard Republicans who weep crocodile tears *after* getting caught (as opposed to those who

Re: Brin: AIs Nanos... dangerous children?

2005-11-29 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 29, 2005, at 8:32 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Nov 26, 2005, at 11:51 PM, Dave Land wrote: On Nov 26, 2005, at 9:47 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Nov 21, 2005, at 2:05 PM, David Brin wrote: Two very strong points. Though please remember there are some honest and intelligent

Re: Brin: (pause) Californians fight back against Diebold!

2005-11-29 Thread The Fool
From: David Brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] And posting comments in 'blogger' is...difficult. 'Blogger' is...Complete Garbage. Sorry about that.I merely find it irksome. May I repost your comment? Always. ___