Re: three paradigm shifts?

2006-04-18 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Bemmzim wrote: Cats are a perfect example of non-domestication. We have certainly bred them to be smaller and tamer but they are not domesticated in the way that dogs are domesticated. They do not connect with humans in the same way. I may be among the few humans who like _both_ cats

Dogs 'n cats (was Re: three paradigm shifts?)

2006-04-18 Thread Nick Arnett
On 4/18/06, Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I may be among the few humans who like _both_ cats and dogs. I admire dogs because they are loyal and trustful, and I admire cats for their independence and irreverence. We had cats and a dog when I was a kid.. and I have had cats as an

Re: three paradigm shifts?

2006-04-18 Thread Dave Land
On Apr 17, 2006, at 6:14 PM, Deborah Harrell wrote: Robert J. Chassell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip In the relevant manner, how do domesticated animals differ from hunted animals? (I know they differ; the question is how?) Deborah Harrell, can you comment? snip^2 In one sentence:

Re: three paradigm shifts?

2006-04-18 Thread Dave Land
On Apr 18, 2006, at 5:38 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: I may be among the few humans who like _both_ cats and dogs. I admire dogs because they are loyal and trustful, and I admire cats for their independence and irreverence. Allow me to affirm your open-mindedness w/r/t cats and dogs. I think

Re: three paradigm shifts?

2006-04-18 Thread Nick Arnett
On 4/18/06, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS: There are 2.45M pages for introvert on Google, but only 2.0M pages for extrovert. Wonder what that means? It means you probably should have searched on extravert. Nick -- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Messages: 408-904-7198

Re: three paradigm shifts?

2006-04-18 Thread William T Goodall
On 18 Apr 2006, at 7:21PM, Nick Arnett wrote: On 4/18/06, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS: There are 2.45M pages for introvert on Google, but only 2.0M pages for extrovert. Wonder what that means? It means you probably should have searched on extravert. That variant

On Cats (Was: three paradigm shifts?)

2006-04-18 Thread Deborah Harrell
Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 08:14 PM Monday 4/17/2006, Deborah Harrell wrote: snip Animals suitable to be domesticated must, in general, have a native hierarchy, which humans can then utilize to their own advantage... in carnivores, a relatively stable pack or strong

Re: three paradigm shifts?

2006-04-18 Thread Robert J. Chassell
--text follows this line-- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] said Animals suitable to be domesticated must, in general, have a native hierarchy ... That is extemely interesting. For whatever reason, I never thought of it. In one sentence: domesticated animals were bred from

Re: Hello (hello, hello)

2006-04-18 Thread Deborah Harrell
Robert G. Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deborah Harrell wrote: snip Maybe I have the wrong title, but it's definitely a KL song on the High Adventure album; My bad. It's actually titled 'Welcome To Heartlight. I like the love And I like the peaceful I wish everyone I know could

Re: three paradigm shifts?

2006-04-18 Thread Deborah Harrell
Robert J. Chassell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] said Animals suitable to be domesticated must, in general, have a native hierarchy ... That is extemely interesting. For whatever reason, I never thought of it. Well, it's not exactly my original thinking;

Re: three paradigm shifts?

2006-04-18 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 09:00 PM Monday 4/17/2006, PAT MATHEWS wrote: From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Subject: Re: three paradigm shifts? Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 20:54:34 -0500 At 08:14 PM Monday 4/17/2006,

Re: three paradigm shifts?

2006-04-18 Thread Charlie Bell
On 18/04/2006, at 11:59 PM, Deborah Harrell wrote: That is extemely interesting. For whatever reason, I never thought of it. Well, it's not exactly my original thinking; 'be the leader' is the big theme in current horsemanship training, and has been important in dog training for a while.

Re: The Gospel Of Judas

2006-04-18 Thread Deborah Harrell
Robert G. Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snippage Was Judas a villain? I don't think so myself. If one believes that Christ was divine and that God has a plan then Judas was just a part of the plan and cannot be faulted for advancing the sacrifice. Indeed, advancing the

Re: The Gospel Of Judas

2006-04-18 Thread Charlie Bell
On 19/04/2006, at 12:53 AM, Deborah Harrell wrote: But I have problems with the 'planned betrayal,' as this makes Judas a stool pigeon, and God an underhanded schemer. Indeed, it brings to mind the entire Garden bit as another planned betrayal. Precisely. It's yet more of why this loving

Re: three paradigm shifts?

2006-04-18 Thread Dave Land
On Apr 18, 2006, at 12:05 PM, William T Goodall wrote: On 18 Apr 2006, at 7:21PM, Nick Arnett wrote: On 4/18/06, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS: There are 2.45M pages for introvert on Google, but only 2.0M pages for extrovert. Wonder what that means? It means you probably

Re: three paradigm shifts?

2006-04-18 Thread Nick Arnett
On 4/18/06, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Where are the missing 420,000 extr*verts? Land Apparently there was a party and we weren't invited. Well, you weren't. I'm an intravert. Nick -- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Messages: 408-904-7198

Re: three paradigm shifts?

2006-04-18 Thread Dave Land
Nick On Apr 18, 2006, at 4:00 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: On 4/18/06, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Where are the missing 420,000 extr*verts? Land Apparently there was a party and we weren't invited. Well, you weren't. I'm an intravert. You are? How odd. Google only has 13,500

Re: The Gospel Of Judas

2006-04-18 Thread Max Battcher
Charlie Bell wrote: On 19/04/2006, at 12:53 AM, Deborah Harrell wrote: But I have problems with the 'planned betrayal,' as this makes Judas a stool pigeon, and God an underhanded schemer. Indeed, it brings to mind the entire Garden bit as another planned betrayal. Precisely. It's yet more

Re: The Gospel Of Judas

2006-04-18 Thread William T Goodall
On 19 Apr 2006, at 12:56AM, Max Battcher wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: On 19/04/2006, at 12:53 AM, Deborah Harrell wrote: But I have problems with the 'planned betrayal,' as this makes Judas a stool pigeon, and God an underhanded schemer. Indeed, it brings to mind the entire Garden bit as

Blog of interest

2006-04-18 Thread Julia Thompson
http://goodmath.blogspot.com/ He welcomes clarifications and corrections. I'm enjoying it. Oh, and he posted this link: http://www.math.northwestern.edu/%7Ematt/kleinfour/media/finite.wmv earlier this week. That's a fun one, IMO. :) Julia

Re: The Gospel Of Judas

2006-04-18 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 4:53 PM Subject: Re: The Gospel Of Judas Robert G. Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snippage Was Judas a villain? I don't think so myself. If

Re: Blog of interest

2006-04-18 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 9:13 PM Subject: Blog of interest http://goodmath.blogspot.com/ He welcomes clarifications and corrections. I'm enjoying it. Oh, and he posted

Re: Blog of interest

2006-04-18 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 10:33 PM Subject: Re: Blog of interest - Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion

Re: The Gospel Of Judas

2006-04-18 Thread Max Battcher
Robert Seeberger wrote: In terms of morality and ethics *why* one chooses can be more important than *what* one chooses. Yuck! I know you state can be and not the absolute are, but you still are positing that in some cases the ends justify the means and worse the intent justify the means.