Re: PC Software - prices high, little choice

2006-10-02 Thread William T Goodall
On 2 Oct 2006, at 12:31AM, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 2 Oct 2006 at 0:16, William T Goodall wrote: And they don't crash all the time either Maru Oh? They just have security holes. Which Apple tries to hide. http://kierenmccarthy.co.uk/2006/09/26/apple-and-security-abuse-and-

Re: PC Software - prices high, little choice

2006-10-02 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 2 Oct 2006 at 17:57, William T Goodall wrote: On 2 Oct 2006, at 12:31AM, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 2 Oct 2006 at 0:16, William T Goodall wrote: And they don't crash all the time either Maru Oh? They just have security holes. Which Apple tries to hide.

Re: PC Software - prices high, little choice

2006-10-02 Thread Richard Baker
Andrew said: As I've said before, the Mac is for technosnobs. Pure and simple. Saying it over and over doesn't make it true. And if it were true, that also doesn't mean that it's bad. Rich, who is a technosnob, but also just one data point. ___

Re: PC Software - prices high, little choice

2006-10-02 Thread William T Goodall
On 2 Oct 2006, at 8:51PM, Andrew Crystall wrote: Countering logic with emotions. That some Mac fanatics DDoS'ed his site says a lot, to me. It wasn't a DDoS, it's just that his site fell over when it got more than two visitors. Cheap Hosting Maru -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL

Re: PC Software - prices high, little choice

2006-10-02 Thread William T Goodall
On 2 Oct 2006, at 7:16PM, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 2 Oct 2006 at 17:57, William T Goodall wrote: Over 25 Windows PCs *every day* are hacked and added to botnets. That's 25 a day more than OS X Macs. Your figure of 0 for Mac's has been debunked over and over and over. Cite and

Re: PC Software - prices high, little choice

2006-10-02 Thread Richard Baker
Andrew said: To you, maybe. To put it another way, I take a very engineering view, rather than a scientific one to technology. Well, that sounds like the sort of attitude that Mac people I know take. OS X, for example, has the advantage over Windows that it's actually been properly

How religion is destroying America

2006-10-02 Thread William T Goodall
I read this article recently http://tinyurl.com/eegfk The first paragraph contains the interesting bit which I quote: According to a 2005 Pew Research Center poll, 70 percent of evangelical Christians believe that living beings have always existed in their present form, compared with 32

RE: Someone Must Tell Them

2006-10-02 Thread Deborah Harrell
Ritu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert G. Seeberger Richard Baker wrote: snippage One of the most striking things about the July 7 attacks was how utterly unterrified we all were I don't know how it may appear from over there, but on 9/11 I was angry. Heck I was angry on

RE: Someone Must Tell Them

2006-10-02 Thread Deborah Harrell
Ritu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip [Regarding the BJP:] Really nasty people, propagating the most hateful of ideas under the guise of patriotism and national security. Its sister organisations, the RSS and the VHP, are equally bad. Golly, no similarities here in the US... Maybe Thomas

Re: Someone Must Tell Them

2006-10-02 Thread Charlie Bell
On 03/10/2006, at 6:49 AM, Deborah Harrell wrote: Debbi who has no confidence in voting this next election, as Colorado has chosen not to have certifiable machines...no, this is not a joke. Or perhaps it is. Request an absentee ballot, and vote that way. At least it's on paper. Charlie

Re: How religion is destroying America

2006-10-02 Thread Deborah Harrell
William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read this article recently http://tinyurl.com/eegfk The first paragraph contains the interesting bit which I quote: According to a 2005 Pew Research Center poll, 70 percent of evangelical Christians believe that living beings have always

Re: Someone Must Tell Them

2006-10-02 Thread Deborah Harrell
Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 03/10/2006, at 6:49 AM, Deborah Harrell wrote: Debbi who has no confidence in voting this next election, as Colorado has chosen not to have certifiable machines...no, this is not a joke. Or perhaps it is. Request an absentee ballot, and

Re: How religion is destroying America

2006-10-02 Thread William T Goodall
On 2 Oct 2006, at 10:08PM, Deborah Harrell wrote: William. 1. Stop lumping oranges and offal together; it makes one suspect that you have no sense of smell. Genius is seeing the similarities in things that other people think are unrelated :-) Stinky Maru -- William T Goodall Mail :

Re: Collapse Chapter 4 - Chaco Canyon

2006-10-02 Thread Deborah Harrell
Continuing my response, but omitting duplicate points already made by others: jdiebremse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip much In order to understand the collapse of Chaco Canyon it is important to also understand the role that Chaco Canyon had in Ancestral Puebloan culture before its

Re: PC Software - prices high, little choice

2006-10-02 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 2 Oct 2006 at 21:29, William T Goodall wrote: On 2 Oct 2006, at 7:16PM, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 2 Oct 2006 at 17:57, William T Goodall wrote: Over 25 Windows PCs *every day* are hacked and added to botnets. That's 25 a day more than OS X Macs. Your figure of 0 for

Re: PC Software - prices high, little choice

2006-10-02 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 2 Oct 2006 at 21:33, Richard Baker wrote: Andrew said: To you, maybe. To put it another way, I take a very engineering view, rather than a scientific one to technology. Well, that sounds like the sort of attitude that Mac people I know take. And in my experience, I do not know a

Re: How religion is destroying America

2006-10-02 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 2 Oct 2006 at 22:21, William T Goodall wrote: On 2 Oct 2006, at 10:08PM, Deborah Harrell wrote: William. 1. Stop lumping oranges and offal together; it makes one suspect that you have no sense of smell. Genius is seeing the similarities in things that other people think

Re: How religion is destroying America

2006-10-02 Thread William T Goodall
On 2 Oct 2006, at 11:09PM, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 2 Oct 2006 at 22:21, William T Goodall wrote: On 2 Oct 2006, at 10:08PM, Deborah Harrell wrote: William. 1. Stop lumping oranges and offal together; it makes one suspect that you have no sense of smell. Genius is seeing the

Re: PC Software - prices high, little choice

2006-10-02 Thread William T Goodall
On 2 Oct 2006, at 10:56PM, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 2 Oct 2006 at 21:29, William T Goodall wrote: On 2 Oct 2006, at 7:16PM, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 2 Oct 2006 at 17:57, William T Goodall wrote: Over 25 Windows PCs *every day* are hacked and added to botnets. That's 25 a day

Re: PC Software - prices high, little choice

2006-10-02 Thread William T Goodall
On 2 Oct 2006, at 11:08PM, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 2 Oct 2006 at 21:33, Richard Baker wrote: Andrew said: To you, maybe. To put it another way, I take a very engineering view, rather than a scientific one to technology. Well, that sounds like the sort of attitude that Mac people I

Re: PC Software - prices high, little choice

2006-10-02 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Richard Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 3:33 PM Subject: Re: PC Software - prices high, little choice Andrew said: To you, maybe. To put it another way, I take a very engineering view,

Re: PC Software - prices high, little choice

2006-10-02 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 2 Oct 2006 at 18:01, Robert Seeberger wrote: Outlook Express is dead. It is replaced by Microsoft Windows Mail and is much more like Outlook than the old Express version. (Matter of fact, let me know how my emails are received by your mail program. I'm interested in knowing if the

Re: PC Software - prices high, little choice

2006-10-02 Thread William T Goodall
On 3 Oct 2006, at 12:01AM, Robert Seeberger wrote: A really nice addition is the new chess program. OS X has had a bundled chess program for years (GNU Chess). [...] One of the neater doodads seen in Vista is when you mouse-over an item in the taskbar a small window that fully reiterates

Re: PC Software - prices high, little choice

2006-10-02 Thread Charlie Bell
On 03/10/2006, at 8:08 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote: Every single contact I've ever had with the Mac community has been fanatically hostile (as opposed to the almost pathological helpfulness of the Linux community, for example). Really? *Every Single Contact Ever*? Seems to me you're using

Re: PC Software - prices high, little choice

2006-10-02 Thread Charlie Bell
On 03/10/2006, at 9:01 AM, Robert Seeberger wrote: Outlook Express is dead. It is replaced by Microsoft Windows Mail and is much more like Outlook than the old Express version. (Matter of fact, let me know how my emails are received by your mail program. I'm interested in knowing if the

Re: PC Software - prices high, little choice

2006-10-02 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 3 Oct 2006 at 9:54, Charlie Bell wrote: On 03/10/2006, at 8:08 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote: Every single contact I've ever had with the Mac community has been fanatically hostile (as opposed to the almost pathological helpfulness of the Linux community, for example). Really? *Every

Re: PC Software - prices high, little choice

2006-10-02 Thread Charlie Bell
On 03/10/2006, at 10:00 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 3 Oct 2006 at 9:54, Charlie Bell wrote: On 03/10/2006, at 8:08 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote: Every single contact I've ever had with the Mac community has been fanatically hostile (as opposed to the almost pathological helpfulness of the

Re: PC Software - prices high, little choice

2006-10-02 Thread William T Goodall
On 3 Oct 2006, at 12:54AM, Charlie Bell wrote: On 03/10/2006, at 8:08 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote: Every single contact I've ever had with the Mac community has been fanatically hostile (as opposed to the almost pathological helpfulness of the Linux community, for example). Really? *Every

Re: PC Software - prices high, little choice

2006-10-02 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 6:15 PM Subject: Re: PC Software - prices high, little choice On 2 Oct 2006 at 18:01, Robert Seeberger wrote: Visually, Vista is full of

Re: PC Software - prices high, little choice

2006-10-02 Thread Charlie Bell
On 03/10/2006, at 10:05 AM, William T Goodall wrote: On 3 Oct 2006, at 12:54AM, Charlie Bell wrote: On 03/10/2006, at 8:08 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote: Every single contact I've ever had with the Mac community has been fanatically hostile (as opposed to the almost pathological helpfulness

Re: 9/11 conspiracies (WAS RE: What should we believe when there is no reliab...

2006-10-02 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 10/1/2006 11:14:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: However, in medicine (as in some other areas) people are suffering and dying during all those years. Particularly when the established theory is stress or IAIYH as it was with ulcers as well as

Re: Someone Must Tell Them

2006-10-02 Thread Dave Land
On Oct 2, 2006, at 1:49 PM, Deborah Harrell wrote: who has no confidence in voting this next election, as Colorado has chosen not to have certifiable machines...no, this is not a joke. Or perhaps it is. Peggy and I took the voting machines out of the equation for good by registering as

Re: How religion is destroying America

2006-10-02 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 03:47 PM Monday 10/2/2006, William T Goodall wrote: I read this article recently http://tinyurl.com/eegfk The first paragraph contains the interesting bit which I quote: According to a 2005 Pew Research Center poll, 70 percent of evangelical Christians believe that living beings have

RE: Someone Must Tell Them

2006-10-02 Thread Ritu
Deborah Harrell wrote: Except that many of us who listened to Academy*-trained combat veterans -- instead of chickenhawk pols -- did _not_ buy into Iraq as an immediate threat to the US, ever. I know. That is why I said 'massive support' instead of 'unanimous support' or 'overwhelming

Re: Collapse Chapter 4 - Chaco Canyon

2006-10-02 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 10/2/2006 5:45:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Chaco Canyon have all shared the feature of being settled in a marginal environment. Is a marginal environment a prerequisite for collapse? Chaco may not have been so marginal at the outset.

Re: How religion is destroying America

2006-10-02 Thread Dave Land
On Oct 2, 2006, at 3:40 PM, William T Goodall wrote: On 2 Oct 2006, at 11:09PM, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 2 Oct 2006 at 22:21, William T Goodall wrote: On 2 Oct 2006, at 10:08PM, Deborah Harrell wrote: William. 1. Stop lumping oranges and offal together; it makes one suspect that you have

RE: Someone Must Tell Them

2006-10-02 Thread Ritu
Deborah Harrell wrote: snip [Regarding the BJP:] Really nasty people, propagating the most hateful of ideas under the guise of patriotism and national security. Its sister organisations, the RSS and the VHP, are equally bad. Golly, no similarities here in the US... *g* Maybe

Re: How religion is destroying America

2006-10-02 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 05:40 PM Monday 10/2/2006, William T Goodall wrote: On 2 Oct 2006, at 11:09PM, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 2 Oct 2006 at 22:21, William T Goodall wrote: On 2 Oct 2006, at 10:08PM, Deborah Harrell wrote: William. 1. Stop lumping oranges and offal together; it makes one suspect that you