Re: Aftermath of a war with Iraq

2003-02-22 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 12:35 PM 2/15/2003 -0600 Dan Minette wrote: As a result, I see two possibilities, based on whether the US is sucessful or unsucessful in managing the peace. I see a third possibility. Next week, after another report of Iraqi non-compliance from Hans Blix, France and Russia belatedly

Re: Aftermath of a war with Iraq

2003-02-16 Thread Reggie Bautista
Dan wrote: I've been reading the news for the last few days, and I've seen the following trends [trends snipped] So, one could extrapolate to a world where: 1) NATO is effectively broken Here's my theory on this. If NATO is broken, then the US will sign individual treaties with former

Aftermath of a war with Iraq

2003-02-15 Thread Dan Minette
I've been reading the news for the last few days, and I've seen the following trends 1) The US will go to war with allies without a UN sanction 2) NATO will not cooperate, even to the extent of officially protecting Turkey...until after the war starts, which is too late 3) Public opinion will

Re: Aftermath of a war with Iraq

2003-02-15 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Dan Nostradamus [*] Minette wrote: So, one could extrapolate to a world where: 1) NATO is effectively broken NATO _is_ broken. France and Germany had better leave NATO and rebuild the Warzaw Pact with the Sovi.. ops... Russia. 2) The UN is relegated to the same importance of the League of

Re: Aftermath of a war with Iraq

2003-02-15 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 12:35:40PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote: 1) Sucessful: The US sees itself as the sole champion of liberty and listens even less to the rest of the world. Look what would have happened if we listened to you in Iraq. Who needs sidewalk superintendants? 2) Failure: The US

Re: Aftermath of a war with Iraq

2003-02-15 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 04:56 PM 2/15/03 -0500, Erik Reuter wrote: Prediction is difficult, especially of the future. That doesn't prevent a lot of people from making a lot of money by (allegedly) doing it . . . -- Ronn! :) Almighty Ruler of the all, Whose Power extends to great and small, Who guides the

Re: Aftermath of a war with Iraq

2003-02-15 Thread Doug Pensinger
Dan Minette wrote: 1) Sucessful: The US sees itself as the sole champion of liberty and listens even less to the rest of the world. Look what would have happened if we listened to you in Iraq. Who needs sidewalk superintendants? 2) Failure: The US sees that intervention doesn't work, it stops