Re: Brin: Kiln people aside, afront, and back

2004-11-15 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/14/2004 11:25:49 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Agh! SHades of Dr. Pak's Preschool. On another track, What about DitZilla? Kiln technology would be a LARPer's paradise. -- Matt A ditto King Kong, who is a very peaceable fellow, and hands

Re: Brin: Kiln people aside

2004-11-14 Thread Matt Grimaldi
David Brin wrote: > Now you guys are creeping me out. > The ditto tits = Tittos wasn't > too bad. But fetuses imprinting > "fettos" to walk around and experience > the outer world before birth?? > Agh! SHades of Dr. Pak's Preschool. On another track, What about DitZilla? Kiln technology w

Re: Brin: Kiln people aside

2004-11-11 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/11/2004 5:10:16 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks for trying to cheer me up, guys. Well, I'd like to say that I'm doing the Alfred Bester I can do. No, wait a m i n u t e, this wold be Bester

Re: Brin: Kiln people aside

2004-11-11 Thread David Brin
--- Alberto Monteiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now let's crossover Uplift with KP: imprint _chimps_ > into> ebody golems, so that they will have a taste of > intelligence> and can chose how to self-uplift. like the monkey with the IQ hat in Futurama... Thanks for trying to cheer me up, guys

Re: Brin: Kiln people aside

2004-11-11 Thread Alberto Monteiro
David Brin wrote: > > Now you guys are creeping me out. > Is this a challenge? > The ditto tits = > Tittos wasn't too bad. But fetuses imprinting > "fettos" to walk around and experience the outer world > before birth?? > It could be worse: imprint dittoes _from_ a flesh fetus, and then in

Re: Brin: Kiln people aside

2004-11-11 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/11/2004 2:41:13 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: . But fetuses imprinting "fettos" to walk around and experience the outer world before birth?? Agh! SHades of Dr. Pak's Preschool. And people to steal the fetuses to sell on the black market.

Re: Brin: Kiln people aside

2004-11-11 Thread David Brin
Now you guys are creeping me out. The ditto tits = Tittos wasn't too bad. But fetuses imprinting "fettos" to walk around and experience the outer world before birth?? Agh! SHades of Dr. Pak's Preschool. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo

Re: Brin: Kiln people aside

2004-11-11 Thread Maru
! > From: David Brin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Brin: Kiln people aside Dang it's a good thing I like snippy-bright people. > Most would have flushed your note, ignoring the > underlying friendliness. > > In fact, KP kind of mocks "transcendance", as you

Re: Brin: Kiln people aside

2004-11-11 Thread Matt Grimaldi
In the discussion of pregnant women making dittoes, what would happen at the end of the day when they download the ditto's memories? Would the child (assuming it has enough of a brain at the time) get any of mom's memories? We already know that trying to download one complete imprint onto anothe

Re: Brin: Kiln people aside

2004-11-11 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Nov 10, 2004, at 7:22 PM, David Brin wrote: --- Warren Ockrassa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote some cool kiln speculations. Thanks. I already did deal with religious conservative opposition to kilning and with sexual variations. Yeah, I noticed that in KP; I think that's another difference in approa

Re: Brin: Kiln people aside

2004-11-11 Thread Julia Thompson
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004, Robert Seeberger wrote: > Julia Thompson wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Nov 2004, David Brin wrote: > > > > lactation from a ditto you probably *don't* need, either, but having > > one around to help burp the baby afterwards would be very nice, > > especially if you're lactating for

Re: Brin: Kiln people aside

2004-11-11 Thread Bryon Daly
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 01:43:05 -0600, Robert Seeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bryon Daly wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:22:11 -0800 (PST), David Brin > > experiences a la Arnold's promised Mars adventure in The Running > Man. > > > Total Recall Doh! What he said! __

Re: Brin: Kiln people aside

2004-11-10 Thread Robert Seeberger
Julia Thompson wrote: > On Wed, 10 Nov 2004, David Brin wrote: > > lactation from a ditto you probably *don't* need, either, but having > one around to help burp the baby afterwards would be very nice, > especially if you're lactating for 2 babies I predict a line: "It's kinda nice not having real

Re: Brin: Kiln people aside

2004-11-10 Thread Robert Seeberger
Bryon Daly wrote: > On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:22:11 -0800 (PST), David Brin > experiences a la Arnold's promised Mars adventure in The Running Man. > Total Recall xponent Governator Quibbles Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Brin: Kiln people aside

2004-11-10 Thread Robert Seeberger
David Brin wrote: > --- Warren Ockrassa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote some > cool kiln speculations. I already did deal with > religious conservative opposition to kilning and with > sexual variations. > > The alien idea though is one that I was intending to > deal With. I mean, how could you tell?

Re: Brin: Kiln people aside

2004-11-10 Thread JDG
At 11:20 AM 11/10/2004 -0800 David Brin wrote: >Unfortunately, I seem chastened in my faith in my >fellow citizens by recent events. NOT the overall >election trends. After all, urban-educated America >did vote as I perceived. I'd ask why the vote of urban-educated America is better representa

Re: Brin: Kiln people aside

2004-11-10 Thread David Brin
--- Bryon Daly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Likely no sport or activity would be too > extreme... "0.5% chance of > survival down that slope? KP shows this. > - It could be much more easy for humans to survive > and exploit > resources in places that they could not easily do so > now, by crea

Re: Brin: Kiln people aside

2004-11-10 Thread Julia Thompson
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004, David Brin wrote: > > --- Warren Ockrassa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote some > cool kiln speculations. I already did deal with > religious conservative opposition to kilning and with > sexual variations. > > The alien idea though is one that I was intending to > deal With. I

Re: Brin: Kiln people aside

2004-11-10 Thread Bryon Daly
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:22:11 -0800 (PST), David Brin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- Warren Ockrassa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote some > cool kiln speculations. I already did deal with > religious conservative opposition to kilning and with > sexual variations. > > The alien idea though is one t

Re: Brin: Kiln people aside

2004-11-10 Thread David Brin
--- Warren Ockrassa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote some cool kiln speculations. I already did deal with religious conservative opposition to kilning and with sexual variations. The alien idea though is one that I was intending to deal With. I mean, how could you tell? Pregnancy. Interesting. _

Re: Brin: Kiln people aside

2004-11-10 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Nov 10, 2004, at 12:20 PM, David Brin wrote: --- Warren Ockrassa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: To me what was probably most interesting about KP is the story you told with the scenario you conceived. (I mean the contrast of what you explored versus what I would have done given the same starting poi

Re: Brin: Kiln people aside

2004-11-10 Thread David Brin
--- Warren Ockrassa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To me what was probably most interesting about KP is > the story you told > with the scenario you conceived. (I mean the > contrast of what you > explored versus what I would have done given the > same starting point.) > I would have gone down a

Re: Brin: Kiln people aside

2004-11-10 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Nov 9, 2004, at 3:12 PM, David Brin wrote: Funny you ignore the singularity aspect of KP. SERIAL immortality is really rather churlish, stealing from our descendants. What busy people REALLY want and need is PARALLEL immortality. The power to get more done now. Looking at transcendence in you

Re: Brin: Kiln people aside

2004-11-09 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/9/2004 10:44:05 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Has everyone forgotten Earth? I would think that one the most obvious. xponent Tranny Maru rob Transcendence Spotting? Time to count the infantiles on the ceiling. Vilyehm

Re: Brin: Kiln people aside

2004-11-09 Thread Robert Seeberger
John D. Giorgis wrote: > At 05:07 PM 11/9/2004 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> In a message dated 11/9/2004 2:51:58 PM US Mountain Standard Time, >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> >> And what is it with you and endings >> involving some sort of Transcendance? That makes ~three now (not >> that I'm co

Re: Brin: Kiln people aside

2004-11-09 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/9/2004 10:17:56 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Heaven's Reach and Creideiki. I know that's one of them. You could easily argue that Heart of the Comet would make two. JDG I feel a need to insert an Orson Scott Cardiovascular joke here--but c

Re: Brin: Kiln people aside

2004-11-09 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 05:07 PM 11/9/2004 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >In a message dated 11/9/2004 2:51:58 PM US Mountain Standard Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >And what is it with you and endings >involving some sort of Transcendance? That makes ~three now (not >that I'm counting). > >Oh please. Count them.

Re: Brin: Kiln people aside

2004-11-09 Thread David Brin
Dang it's a good thing I like snippy-bright people. Most would have flushed your note, ignoring the underlying friendliness. In fact, KP kind of mocks "transcendance", as you well note. It acknowledges that it may happen, but (as in my other books) I also say the "life will go on". I just retur

Re: Brin: Kiln people aside

2004-11-09 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/9/2004 2:51:58 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And what is it with you and endings involving some sort of Transcendance? That makes ~three now (not that I'm counting). Oh please. Count them. Heaven's Reach and Creideiki. I know that's one of them.

Re: Brin: Kiln people aside

2004-11-09 Thread Maru
So Dr. Brin, I was reading Kiln People your new novel. Rather good, although towards the end seemed you'd tossed too many balls in the air. And what is it with you and endings involving some sort of Transcendance? That makes ~three now (not that I'm counting). But my question really is that early