--- Jan Coffey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- Han Tacoma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Chad (Wed, 4 Jun 2003 09:05:30 -0700) writes:
> > > > From: Steve Sloan II
> > > > Han Tacoma forwarded:
> > > > > Cancer was responsible for 12 percent of
> the nearly 56
> > > > > million deaths worldwide
This post just popped up tonight in my inbox!
--- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote [on Tues?]:
> For just one example: How many women die each year
> from
> pregnancy-related and childbirth-related problems in
> industrialized
> countries as opposed to in developing countries?
> How m
Deborah Harrell wrote:
> I posted stats on pregnancy/childbirth in developing
> vs. industrialized countries last year; I'm afraid
> that I don't remember which thread (although it may
> have been an abortion one), and the only number/trend
> I think I recall is that up to 1/3 of all women in
> de
I thought I would ring in on this thread and give my two cents. Being a
vegetarian significantly reduces your chances of developing cancers. This
is not only because cooked vegetables contain far less carcinogens than
cooked meat, but because the cattle produced for inductrial nations is
usually
On 6 Jun 2003 at 10:25, Michael Harney wrote:
> I thought I would ring in on this thread and give my two cents. Being
> a vegetarian significantly reduces your chances of developing cancers.
> This is not only because cooked vegetables contain far less
> carcinogens than cooked meat, but because
From: "Andrew Crystall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On 6 Jun 2003 at 10:25, Michael Harney wrote:
>
> > I thought I would ring in on this thread and give my two cents. Being
> > a vegetarian significantly reduces your chances of developing cancers.
> > This is not only because cooked vegetables cont
Michael Harney wrote:
> Regardless of that though, you still have the problem of cooked meat having
> far more carcinogens than vegetables.
That may depend on how you cook it. If what I've read recently is
believable, boiled meat has less in the way of carcinogens than baked,
fried or grilled.
--- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Deborah Harrell wrote:
>
> > I posted stats on pregnancy/childbirth in
> developing
> > vs. industrialized countries last year; I'm afraid
> > that I don't remember which thread...
> >
> > Developing nation women *do* have less breast
> cancer,
>
From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Michael Harney wrote:
>
> > Regardless of that though, you still have the problem of cooked meat
having
> > far more carcinogens than vegetables.
>
> That may depend on how you cook it. If what I've read recently is
> believable, boiled meat has less
At 02:57 PM 6/6/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Michael Harney wrote:
> Regardless of that though, you still have the problem of cooked meat having
> far more carcinogens than vegetables.
That may depend on how you cook it. If what I've read recently is
believable, boiled meat has less in the way of carci
>-Original Message-
>From: Kevin Tarr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 1:32 PM
>To: Killer Bs Discussion
>Subject: Re: L3: World cancer death rates have increased...
>
>
>At 02:57 PM 6/6/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>>Michael Harney wro
--- Michael Harney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I thought I would ring in on this thread and give my
> two cents. Being a
> vegetarian significantly reduces your chances of
> developing cancers. This
> is not only because cooked vegetables contain far
> less carcinogens than
> cooked meat, but b
From: "Kevin Tarr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> At 02:57 PM 6/6/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >Michael Harney wrote:
> >
> > > Regardless of that though, you still have the problem of cooked meat
having
> > > far more carcinogens than vegetables.
> >
> >That may depend on how you cook it. If what I've read
From: "Chad Cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Kevin Tarr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 1:32 PM
> >To: Killer Bs Discussion
> >Subject: Re: L3: World cancer death rates have increased...
&g
Deborah Harrell wrote:
>
> --- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I think that someone did a study of various primates
> > and determined that
> > based on a number of factors, the appropriate age of
> > weaning for humans is around 5 years old.
>
>
> Ouch! I think that teeth erupt
--- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Michael Harney wrote:
>
> > Regardless of that though, you still have the problem of cooked meat
> having
> > far more carcinogens than vegetables.
>
> That may depend on how you cook it. If what I've read recently is
> believable, boiled meat has
>-Original Message-
>From: Michael Harney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 2:36 PM
>To: Killer Bs Discussion
>Subject: Re: L3: World cancer death rates have increased...
>
>
>
>From: "Chad Cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Jan Coffey wrote:
>
> --- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Michael Harney wrote:
> >
> > > Regardless of that though, you still have the problem of cooked meat
> > having
> > > far more carcinogens than vegetables.
> >
> > That may depend on how you cook it. If what I've read recentl
>
>I was reading recently somewhere...I am sure someone can
>provide feedback...
>that suggested that cooking (even cooking vegetables) reduced
>carcinogens and
>increased vitamin absorption.
Whenever we were cooking human flesh, The smoke from the charred flesh
either from lasing or electrocau
--- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jan Coffey wrote:
> > --- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > How do grilled vs. steamed vegetables come out
> as far as carcinogens
> > > go? I know that for many vegetables, raw is
> better than any cooking
> > > method at least i
> From: Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> There is also the possibility that these growth
> hormones might stimulate already "primed" cells to
> transform from pre-cancerous into full-blown
> malignancy. Which is why I drink organic milk also
> (no growth hormone, no pesticides in the feed
--- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jan Coffey wrote:
> >
> > --- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Michael Harney wrote:
> > >
> > > > Regardless of that though, you still have the problem of cooked meat
> > > having
> > > > far more carcinogens than vegetables.
> > >
>
At 12:58 AM 6/7/03 -0500, The Fool wrote:
> From: Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> There is also the possibility that these growth
> hormones might stimulate already "primed" cells to
> transform from pre-cancerous into full-blown
> malignancy. Which is why I drink organic milk also
> (no
--- The Fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > From: Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > There is also the possibility that these growth
> > hormones might stimulate already "primed" cells to
> > transform from pre-cancerous into full-blown
> > malignancy. Which is why I drink organic milk
a
--- Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- The Fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > From: Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > > There is also the possibility that these growth
> > > hormones might stimulate already "primed" cells to
> > > transform from pre-cancerous into ful
Han Tacoma wrote:
>
> WHO report: alarming increase in cancer rates
>
> http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/apr2003/canc-a26.shtml
>
> By Joanne Laurier
> 26 April 2003
>
> Global cancer rates are expected to increase 50 percent by the year 2020,
> according to the latest report from the Internat
WHO report: alarming increase in cancer rates
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/apr2003/canc-a26.shtml
By Joanne Laurier
26 April 2003
Global cancer rates are expected to increase 50 percent by the year 2020,
according to the latest report from the International Agency for Research on
Cancer (IA
> Industrialized countries with the highest overall cancer
> rates are: the US,
> Italy, Australia, Germany, The Netherlands, Canada and France.
>
> Although industrialization is suggested to be a major factor
> in the prevalence
> of cancer, the report reveals that the majority of
> investiga
On 3 Jun 2003 at 14:16, Chad Cooper wrote:
> > The fact that there has been an admittedly decreased interest
> > in studying
> > exposure to occupational carcinogens is itself a condemnation
> > of the attitude of
> > governments and corporations to the safety and well-being of
> > workers.
>
Han Tacoma forwarded:
> Cancer was responsible for 12 percent of the nearly 56
> million deaths worldwide from all causes in 2000. In
> industrialized countries more than one in four people
> will die from the disease, a rate more than twice as
> high as developing countries.
Could it be because p
Commenting on a couple of points, so most snipped-
--- Chad Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > The fact that there has been an admittedly
> decreased interest in studying
> > exposure to occupational carcinogens is itself a
> condemnation of the attitude of
> > governments and corporatio
> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Sloan II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 7:12 PM
> To: Killer Bs Discussion
> Subject: Re: L3: World cancer death rates have increased by 35% from
> 1987 to 1995 says WHO, and they'll double again by 2
Chad (Wed, 4 Jun 2003 09:05:30 -0700) writes:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Steve Sloan II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 7:12 PM
> > To: Killer Bs Discussion
> > Subject: Re: L3: World cancer death rates have increased by 35%
--- Han Tacoma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Chad (Wed, 4 Jun 2003 09:05:30 -0700) writes:
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Steve Sloan II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 7:12 PM
> > > To: Killer Bs Discussion
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