Gautam said:
Do you feel that _compared to the electorate_ that
voted (overwhelmingly) for Labour in the last election
that Labour MPs are very much more Old Labour? Not
party members, but ordinary everyday voters?
Yes, Labour MPs are more Old Labour than the electorate, but less so
than
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Richard Baker wrote:
It must be nice to live in a country like the US that can have two
seemingly reasonably competent parties at the same time...
Yeah. Let us know when you find one, will you? :-)
Marvin Long
Austin, Texas
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Poindexter Ashcroft,
Those of you following the Iraq situation might find this interesting:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2799377.stm
In short, Tony Blair just suffered a gigantic rebellion by his
backbenchers over war with Iraq. I've just been watching coverage of
the House and it was pretty dramatic, and
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From: Richard Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 1:42 PM
Subject: Labour revolt
Those of you following the Iraq situation might find this interesting:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What do you think of Gautam's argument that a swift
military victory in
Iraq will turn the support numbers around, like the
victory over Argentina
did for Maggie?
Dan M.
I should note that I think that's true for the British
public, but not
Dan said:
What do you think of Gautam's argument that a swift military victory
in Iraq will turn the support numbers around, like the victory over
Argentina did for Maggie?
I think that it's possible, but on the other hand this situation is very
different to that one. The Labour Party has
Gautam said:
I should note that I think that's true for the British
public, but not necessarily for the Labour MPs. Tony
Blair is New Labour, but there aren't that many of
them in the actual Parliament, most of which is made
up of Old Labour.
I think that Labour MPs are much more New
--- Richard Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think that Labour MPs are much more New Labour
than most of the
Labour Party though. Quite a lot of town and county
councils seem to
have an awful lot of unreconstructed Labourites
(some even verging on
actual Marxism) sitting on them. (Or at
From: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Labour revolt
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 13:04:50 -0800 (PST)
--- Richard Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think that Labour MPs are much more New Labour
Gautam said:
It would not surprise me in the least if (as you say) a lot of town
and county councils had members of Old Labour running them - but it
would surprise me a great deal if the _rank and file_ of Old Labour
was more extreme than the Parliamentary representatives. Is that
correct?
--- Richard Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
With the disclaimer that I have no hard evidence
supporting anything I'm
about to say and I'm certainly not an expert on the
Labour Party, I
think that the rank and file of the Labour Party is
indeed more extreme
than the leadership. Here's how I
On 26 Feb 2003 at 20:16, Richard Baker wrote:
Gautam said:
I should note that I think that's true for the British
public, but not necessarily for the Labour MPs. Tony
Blair is New Labour, but there aren't that many of
them in the actual Parliament, most of which is made
up of Old
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