Dan M wrote:
Subject: RE: Br!n: Dark Matter / Energy in Doubt
I don't dispute anything you write, except for this. Forgive me if I am
mistaken, but my understanding was that they did not in fact have to
modify the MOG theory in order to explain the data in the case of the
bullet cl
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> Behalf Of KZK
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> To: brin-l@mccmedia.com
> Subject: RE: Br!n: Dark Matter / Energy in Doubt
>
> I don't dispute anythi
>> Dr. Brin, in one of your recent blog posts you mention the article
>about
>> dark energy but not the paper about dark matter. This is confusing,
>> because the paper on dark matter is the much more interesting of the
>> two, seeing as it doesn't
>
> Dr. Brin, in one of your recent blog posts you mention the article about
> dark energy but not the paper about dark matter. This is confusing,
> because the paper on dark matter is the much more interesting of the
> two, seeing as it doesn't rely on any might-be'
>>This paper (pdf) shows how MOG (Modified Gravity or
>>Scalar-Tensor-Vector)
>>theory explains the Bullet cluster 'proof' of dark matter without
dark >>matter:
>>http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0702146
>
>>This article argues, weakly, that the
Interesting stuff!
From: KZK
To: brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Friday, October 2, 2009 6:38:22 PM
Subject: Brin: Dark Matter / Energy in Doubt
This paper (pdf) shows how MOG (Modified Gravity or Scalar-Tensor-Vector)
theory explains the Bullet cluster 'proo
This paper (pdf) shows how MOG (Modified Gravity or
Scalar-Tensor-Vector) theory explains the Bullet cluster 'proof' of dark
matter without dark matter:
http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0702146
This article argues, weakly, that the apparent acceleration of the
universe can be explain
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 3:28 PM, xponentrob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It's not really productive to worry too much about what is real and what is
> virtual, since there is no firm basis for the categorization. Particles are
> a quantized bias in the field fluctuations that compose reality, and
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> Behalf Of Rceeberger
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>
;Mercury's extra precession could be modeled using Classical Mechanics,
>it was just a matter of adjusting Sun's J2. The surprising thing
>was that, with GR, Sun's J2 is negligible.
>
>Alberto Monteiro
Yep. If the Sun indeed had turned out to be measurably oblate, or at
rob/xponent wrote:
>
> Models make predictions. And over time models have made predictions
> with greater accuracy and that cover more situations that previous
> models failed. Mercury anyone?
>
Mercury's extra precession could be modeled using Classical Mechanics,
it
On 11/30/2008 5:30:23 PM, Dan M ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Rob wrote:
>
> > If physics were anything more than approximate, we would have final
> > answers to all our questions.
>
> How? All physics does is model observations.
Models make predictions. And over time models have made predictions
Rob wrote:
> If physics were anything more than approximate, we would have final
> answers to all our questions.
How? All physics does is model observations. Physics was created out of
Natural Philosophy by tabling the question of the reliability of
observations.
Now, you can use the results o
On 11/30/2008 2:26:19 AM, Ronn! Blankenship ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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> At 08:25 PM Saturday 11/29/2008, Bruce Bostwick wrote:
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> >(Although to be fair, classical mechanics does sum up pretty well what
> >we see on our scale.
> It's just right for the wrong reasons, is all. :)
>
>
>
> Why is it
At 08:25 PM Saturday 11/29/2008, Bruce Bostwick wrote:
>(Although to be fair, classical mechanics does sum up pretty well what
>we see on our scale. It's just right for the wrong reasons, is all. :)
Why is it "for the wrong reasons"? Some would say that if it leads
to predictions which match
t aspect of QM.
> It helps us to work out the nature of reality and what it means to
> exist.
>
> For we, the dummies, it is difficult to hold on to the ideas of
> simultaneous existing/non-existing, objects frothing out of nothing,
> or
> matter mostly being not there in
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Rceeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> We can understand philosophy much easier than maths, they are easier for us
> to discuss and digest.
Hmmph. Your father apparently wasn't a philosophy professor.
Nick
J'ai faim, puisque je suis.
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> It's confirmed: Matter is merely vacuum fluctuations
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&g
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From: Rceeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 09:04:20 -0600
To: brin-l@mccmedia.com
Subject: It's confirmed: Matter is merely vacuum fluctuations
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16095-its-confirmed-matter-is-merely-v
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16095-its-confirmed-matter-is-merely-vacuum-fluctuations.html
Matter is built on flaky foundations. Physicists have now confirmed that the
apparently substantial stuff is actually no more than fluctuations in the
quantum vacuum.
xponent
Tenuous Maru
rob
Some one on the Culture list posted a link to the prologue of the new Banks
Culture novel that is available in the U.S. at the end of next month. I had
already pre-ordered it, but this tidbit peaked my interest further.
http://www.orbitbooks.net/matter-extract
Doug
Not a Git Maru
At 10:17 AM Sunday 9/16/2007, Robert Seeberger wrote:
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On Sun, 16 Sep 2007, Robert Seeberger wrote:
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> On 9/16/2007 12:48:51 PM, Robert Seeberger ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> wrote:
>
> Ha!
> What a hoot!
> http://baker.house.gov/html/content.cfm?id=350
>
>
> xponent
> Participants Maru
> rob
I love the bit at the end:
EINSTEIN WAS RIGHT: ANYTHI
On Sun, 16 Sep 2007, Robert Seeberger wrote:
> Oh, I definately read the entire Wiki-article, but as such things go,
> I was curious to see more.
> I realize that I most likely appear to be an ignorant hick to some
> here, and it is true that I am ignorant, frequently ignorant. But I do
> not be
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wrote:
Ha!
What a hoot!
http://baker.house.gov/html/content.cfm?id=350
xponent
Participants Maru
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To: "Killer Bs Discussion"
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: Mirror particles form new matter
>
> Rob--
>
> Actually, I think the wikipedia article is excellent.
>
Robert Seeberger wrote:
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> From: "Richard Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
...
>> David said:
>>
>>> What? They can't even call them "anti-matter"?
>>> Now they're "mirror particles"? Th
Rob said:
> So if you mix normal matter with mirror anti-matter would the result
> be:
>
> a: Nothing because they are mutually weakly interacting?
>
> or
>
> b: a similar reaction to matter/anti-matter mixing only with a
> different particle emission?
>
> or
&g
?
>
> An non-electronic version of an e-raser?
>
>
> Puns `R' Us Maru
>
To be honest, I expected "cellphone".
xponent
Normal Matter Communication Device Maru
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Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: Mirror particles form new matter
> Rob said:
>
>> So if you mix normal matter with mirror anti-matt
At 10:14 PM Saturday 9/15/2007, Robert Seeberger wrote:
>I wonder if someone has written a story featuring rasers? What would
>they be useful for?
Shaving?
NASCAR?
An non-electronic version of an e-raser?
Puns `R' Us Maru
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> David said:
>
>> What? They can't even call them "anti-
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To: "Killer Bs Discussion"
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 1:35 AM
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> David said:
>
>> What? They can't even call them "anti-
David said:
> What? They can't even call them "anti-matter"?
> Now they're "mirror particles"? The level of
> science writing seems to be constantly sinking. : (
When I read the headline I got quite excited as "mirror matter" means
On 9/15/2007 9:19:56 PM, David Hobby ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Robert Seeberger wrote:
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> > To: "Brin Mail List"
> > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007
Robert Seeberger wrote:
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> From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Brin Mail List"
> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 7:20 PM
> Subject: Mirror particles form new matter
...
>> "A gamma-ray laser is t
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Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 7:20 PM
Subject: Mirror particles form new matter
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6991030.stm
>
>
> Fragile part
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Just finished this for a book club - rather dry going,
but informative. Depressing, actually, but Frank's
analysis of why folks are voting for politicians and
policy which hurt them economically seemed valid to
me. Of course, I think others wrote/reported similar
things before, but the account of
http://www.audioholics.com/education/cables/whats-the-matter-with-hdmi
This links to a really good article about cableing and signal that
explains in understandable detail the properties and limitations of
the various types of video cables available.
What makes it interesting is the insight it
John W Redelfs wrote:
>
> If our Milky Way were to collide with an anti-matter galaxy of equal
> mass, perhaps one that our astronomers had somehow overlooked, and
> tomorrow our whole galaxy were to cease to exist, what difference
> would it make?
>
To the Big U? Nothing.
On 9/6/06, John W Redelfs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If our Milky Way were to collide with an anti-matter galaxy of equal mass,
perhaps one that our astronomers had somehow overlooked, and tomorrow our
whole galaxy were to cease to exist, what difference would it make? Is the
universe ben
If our Milky Way were to collide with an anti-matter galaxy of equal mass,
perhaps one that our astronomers had somehow overlooked, and tomorrow our
whole galaxy were to cease to exist, what difference would it make? Is the
universe benefited in any way from having the Milky Way as part of its
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To: "Killer Bs Discussion"
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 7:02 PM
Subject: Programmable Matter
>
> The Good Dr. has highlighted in his blog a relatively new sci-fi
> worthy tech ide
The Good Dr. has highlighted in his blog a relatively new sci-fi worthy tech
idea (with a downloadable book no less)
http://www.wilmccarthy.com/hm.htm
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At 10:57 AM Sunday 11/20/2005, William T Goodall wrote:
On 20 Nov 2005, at 3:54 pm, Jim Sharkey wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
Some mouth cancers are caused by a virus contracted during oral
sex, according to a new Swedish study.
Everything Is Bad For You Maru
That may be true, but there
On 20 Nov 2005, at 3:54 pm, Jim Sharkey wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
Some mouth cancers are caused by a virus contracted during oral
sex, according to a new Swedish study.
Everything Is Bad For You Maru
That may be true, but there are just some risks a man must take. :)
Jim
Cunning Lin
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
>Some mouth cancers are caused by a virus contracted during oral
>sex, according to a new Swedish study.
>Everything Is Bad For You Maru
That may be true, but there are just some risks a man must take. :)
Jim
Cunning Linguist Maru
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Fwd: Health Alert from NewsMax.com
Headlines (Scroll down for complete stories):
3. Study Links Oral Sex, Cancer
[...snip...]
3. Study Links Oral Sex, Cancer
Some mouth cancers are caused by a virus contracted during oral
sex, according to a new Swedish study.
Done at the University of Ma
<<http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/astro-ph/0507619>>
General Relativity Resolves Galactic Rotation Without Exotic Dark
Matter
A galaxy is modeled as a stationary axially symmetric pressure-free
fluid in general relativity. For the weak gravitational fields under
consideration, the field e
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2004/12feb_fermi.htm?list1119125
The sixth state of matter.
xponent
Not Three? Maru
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At 17:06 30-12-2002 -0500, Kevin Tarr wrote:
Hey! I program in COBOL. I just learned it a year ago. It's never going away.
Kevin T.
I'd be offended, but what's the point?
The point is that little dot-shaped character on your keyboard. :-)
Jeroen "Useless comments" van Baardwijk
LEGAL NOT
At 05:06 PM 12/30/02 -0500, Kevin Tarr wrote:
At 11:22 AM 12/30/2002 -0500, you wrote:
In a message dated 12/30/2002 5:07:42 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> My degree is Computer Game Design.
> Does that count as insane enough?
>
> Andy
> Dawn Falcon
If you were
In a message dated 12/30/2002 3:06:47 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> Hey! I program in COBOL. I just learned it a year ago. It's never going
away.
>
>
> Kevin T.
> I'd be offended, but what's the point?
Without those un-numbered punch cards, no offense shoul
At 11:22 AM 12/30/2002 -0500, you wrote:
In a message dated 12/30/2002 5:07:42 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> My degree is Computer Game Design.
> Does that count as insane enough?
>
> Andy
> Dawn Falcon
If you were still using punch cards and programing in COBAL
On 30 Dec 2002 at 11:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In a message dated 12/30/2002 5:07:42 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> >
> > My degree is Computer Game Design.
> > Does that count as insane enough?
> >
> > Andy
> > Dawn Falcon
>
> If you were still using p
In a message dated 12/30/2002 5:07:42 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> My degree is Computer Game Design.
> Does that count as insane enough?
>
> Andy
> Dawn Falcon
If you were still using punch cards and programing in COBAL, that would be a
bit too insane.
Wi
On 29 Dec 2002 at 21:05, Julia Thompson wrote:
> Alberto Monteiro wrote:
> >
> > Dan Minette wrote:
> > >
> > >> How can I answer your question in a mathematically correct
> > >> way, if I can't understand what you mean?
> > >>
> > >> For example, do you want to know if I am an insane (conspiracy
Alberto Monteiro wrote:
>
> Dan Minette wrote:
> >
> >> How can I answer your question in a mathematically correct
> >> way, if I can't understand what you mean?
> >>
> >> For example, do you want to know if I am an insane (conspiracy theorist)?
> >> Do you want to know if I am an (insane conspira
Alberto Monteiro wrote:
>
> Dan Minette wrote:
> >
> >> How can I answer your question in a mathematically correct
> >> way, if I can't understand what you mean?
> >>
> >> For example, do you want to know if I am an insane (conspiracy theorist)?
> >> Do you want to know if I am an (insane conspira
Jim Sharkey wrote:
>
>> For example, do you want to know if I am an insane (conspiracy
>> theorist)?
>> Do you want to know if I am an (insane conspiracy) theorist?
>
> The former, I think.
>
I am not an insane (conspiracy theorist)
By Dan Minete's razor, this proves nothing about me
Also, even
Alberto Monteiro wrote:
>For example, do you want to know if I am an insane (conspiracy
>theorist)?
>Do you want to know if I am an (insane conspiracy) theorist?
The former, I think.
Jim
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Dan Minette wrote:
>
>> How can I answer your question in a mathematically correct
>> way, if I can't understand what you mean?
>>
>> For example, do you want to know if I am an insane (conspiracy theorist)?
>> Do you want to know if I am an (insane conspiracy) theorist?
>>
>> The two are quite di
On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 05:15:08PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote:
> Actually, Alberto, you can only tell us if you are kidding.
He was kidding. My Alberto model confirms it.
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In a message dated 12/29/2002 3:37:17 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >I assume this is you being funny, and that you're not just an insane
> conspiracy theorist.
> >
> >Or are those things not really mutually exclusive? :)
> >
> How can I answer your question in a
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From: "Alberto Monteiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: [BRIN] Diamond/Triangle -- Just a matter of drawing a line
>
> Jim Sharkey wrote:
> >
> >I assume this
Jim Sharkey wrote:
>
>I assume this is you being funny, and that you're not just an insane conspiracy
>theorist.
>
>Or are those things not really mutually exclusive? :)
>
How can I answer your question in a mathematically correct
way, if I can't understand what you mean?
For example, do you wa
On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 01:17:04PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote:
> That is a very strong claim; do you have evidence to support that?
Well, the inch-pound system of units, for one.
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From: "Alberto Monteiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [BRIN] Diamond/Triangle -- Just a matter of drawing a line
> Robert Seeberger wrote:
> >
> >> > Ap
Alberto Monteiro wrote
>There is no irony here. The HIV virus was developed in South
>Africa, they wanted it to kill the black population. Something went
>wrong, and it spread to everybody
I assume this is you being funny, and that you're not just an insane conspiracy
theorist.
Or are those t
Robert Seeberger wrote:
>
>> > Apartheid-era South Africa!
>>
>> That is a pretty stange diamond shape you have.
>>
>> /\
>> \/
>> /\
>> / \
>>
>
> Looks like one of those AIDS ribbons.
> How ironic!
>
There is no irony here. The HIV virus was developed in South Africa,
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 4:34 AM
Subject: [BRIN] Diamond/Triangle -- Just a matter of drawing a line
>
> "The United States anticipated the collapse of the
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: [BRIN] Diamond/Triangle -- Just a matter of drawing a line
> On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 05:31:33AM -0500, just john wrote:
&
On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 05:31:33AM -0500, just john wrote:
> I bet I can think of a "diamond-shaped" society before the present
> day America.
>
>
> Apartheid-era South Africa!
That is a pretty stange diamond shape you have.
/\
\/
/\
/ \
> Now, if we're messing wi
I bet I can think of a "diamond-shaped" society before the present
day America.
Apartheid-era South Africa!
All they had to do was define anybody not of European descent as a non-citizen.
Presto!
So, in this era of a global economy, we can talk of the "diamond-shaped"
economic structure by
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> http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/11/18/05434/162
With a link to this article:
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/10.12/convergence.html?pg=1&topic=&topic_set=
Which ended with the following:
"Oh, and what did Einstein think about this issue? He
said,
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