Re: Autism and MMR Vaccine Study an 'Elaborate Fraud'

2011-02-10 Thread Martin Lewis
On 2/9/11, Dan Minette danmine...@att.net wrote: To start with, this is not a study on US induced deaths in Iraq. More importantly, this story about the Fallujah cluster is something you have simply made up. Are you saying that Fallujah wasn't excluded because of problems with the results

Re: Autism and MMR Vaccine Study an 'Elaborate Fraud'

2011-02-10 Thread Martin Lewis
On 2/9/11, Dan Minette danmine...@att.net wrote: quote Had the Fallujah sample been included, the survey's estimate would have been of an excess of about 298,000 deaths, with 200,000 concentrated in the 3% of Iraq around Fallujah end quote OK, 200k deaths in and right around Fallujah

RE: Autism and MMR Vaccine Study an 'Elaborate Fraud'

2011-02-10 Thread Dan Minette
Oh, I see, Wikipedia. I am now totally convinced of your standing as a eminent public health epidemiologist. Just to get the population. The critical documentation was that they _did_ exclude the Fallujah area and that their techniques came up with 200k deaths in that region which, if true,

RE: Autism and MMR Vaccine Study an 'Elaborate Fraud'

2011-02-09 Thread Dan Minette
I think there have been discussions here previously about vaccines, and while there might well be some people, especially children, who can have difficulty with multiple vaccines, the issue of vaccination causing autism is particularly fear-inducing. But the 1998 'study' has been judged

Re: Autism and MMR Vaccine Study an 'Elaborate Fraud'

2011-02-09 Thread Dave Land
On Feb 9, 2011, at 8:03 AM, Dan Minette wrote: I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and not attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence. You, sir, are un-American :-). Well said. Dave ___

Re: Autism and MMR Vaccine Study an 'Elaborate Fraud'

2011-02-09 Thread Martin Lewis
On 2/9/11, Dan Minette danmine...@att.net wrote: The Lancet, in my book, has published other studies that were questionable from the beginning. For example, they published a study on US induced deaths in Iraq that found that a quarter of the population of Faluja had died due to the early

RE: Autism and MMR Vaccine Study an 'Elaborate Fraud'

2011-02-09 Thread Dan Minette
Martin wrote To start with, this is not a study on US induced deaths in Iraq. More importantly, this story about the Fallujah cluster is something you have simply made up. Are you saying that Fallujah wasn't excluded because of problems with the results there? Seriously? Or are you saying I'm

RE: Autism and MMR Vaccine Study an 'Elaborate Fraud'

2011-02-09 Thread Dan Minette
I'm really suppose to be working, but this took me 5 minutes to find: From http://www.iraqanalysis.org/local/041101lancetpmos.html Which argued for the Lancet article and against the British government response and I quote: quote Had the Fallujah sample been included, the survey's estimate