>I'm a little skeptical on this. There have been so many rosy forecasts over
the years for fusion, and they never seem to pan out.
>"Fusion is 30 years away, and always will be."
I'm well aware of this statement, and it's held true so far -- but to date
people have focused on tokamak fusion devic
On 25/07/2008, at 5:27 AM, hkhenson wrote:
>> And there are certain parts
>> of the population doing their best to outbreed everyone else just to
>> skew future demographics. So it's likely to be a hard crash, and not
>> a very well controlled one at that.
>
> This would worry me more except I th
On Jul 24, 2008, at 1:21 PM, Bruce Bostwick wrote:
> On Jul 24, 2008, at 2:27 PM, hkhenson wrote:
>
>>> And there are certain parts
>>> of the population doing their best to outbreed everyone else just to
>>> skew future demographics. So it's likely to be a hard crash, and
>>> not
>>> a very we
Curtis Burisch wrote:
> 2. Fusion (read up on IEC fusion; there are also another two very promising
> new fusion technologies. One or all of these will definitely work. Maybe
> more likely 15 years, not 5.)
>
I'm a little skeptical on this. There have been so many rosy forecasts
over the years
On Jul 24, 2008, at 2:27 PM, hkhenson wrote:
> At 12:00 PM 7/23/2008, Bruce Bostwick wrote:
>
>> Pretty sure we're headed for a population crash at least that drastic
>> regardless. it's obvious to me that the earth cannot support 6-7
>> billion sustainably no matter what we do.
>
> With a lot o
I don't know why this failed to post the first time, try again.
At 12:00 PM 7/23/2008, Bruce Bostwick wrote:
>Pretty sure we're headed for a population crash at least that drastic
>regardless. it's obvious to me that the earth cannot support 6-7
>billion sustainably no matter what we do.
With a
> In what way, specifically?
>>It's an unstable situation, implying change. One way or another it will
>>sort itself out.
If we run out of energy, it will be a global catastrophe where billions die.
We will adapt to the new conditions. Stabilization achieved.
If we find a new source of energy,
At 02:39 AM Thursday 7/24/2008, Curtis Burisch wrote:
>It's an unstable situation, implying change. One way or another it will sort
>itself out.
>
>For what it's worth, I'm pretty confident we'll sort the energy crisis out
>completely within the next five years or so.
In what way, specifically?
At 09:19 PM Wednesday 7/23/2008, Bruce Bostwick wrote:
>On Jul 23, 2008, at 8:31 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
>
> >> Some of us get it. But not enough, not by far, not yet ..
> >
> >
> >
> > Is there any other way to help them to "get it" than to keep
> > reminding them?
> >
> >
> > . . . ronn! :
>> I am not optimistic that this will be done. If this or some other
>> really huge supply of primary energy is not found, we are going to be
>> in for some nasty times. The other way the energy crisis will be
>> solved is for the world population to fall to about a billion.
>so we face eithe
At 08:39 PM Wednesday 7/23/2008, Julia Thompson wrote:
>On Wed, 23 Jul 2008, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
>
> > At 03:32 PM Wednesday 7/23/2008, hkhenson wrote:
> >
> >> ___
> >> http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm speechless
On Jul 23, 2008, at 8:31 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
>> Some of us get it. But not enough, not by far, not yet ..
>
>
>
> Is there any other way to help them to "get it" than to keep
> reminding them?
>
>
> . . . ronn! :)
Now on that, I will wholeheartedly agree with you. Reminders never
On Jul 23, 2008, at 8:31 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
>> For every Marx, there's a Stalin.
>> (Which was one of the many examples I meant by "it's been tried".)
>
> I was not aware that either of those was associated with a movement
> to convince everyone that they must love each other as much as
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
> At 03:32 PM Wednesday 7/23/2008, hkhenson wrote:
>
>> ___
>> http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
>
>
>
> I'm speechless, too!
>
>
> . . . ronn! :P
>
> Professional Smart-Aleck. Do Not Attemp
At 03:32 PM Wednesday 7/23/2008, hkhenson wrote:
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I'm speechless, too!
. . . ronn! :P
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At 11:23 AM Wednesday 7/23/2008, Bruce Bostwick wrote:
>On Jul 23, 2008, at 10:21 AM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
> > At 08:02 AM Wednesday 7/23/2008, Bruce Bostwick wrote:
> >> On Jul 23, 2008, at 3:04 AM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
> >>> At 10:06 PM Tuesday 7/22/2008, Bruce Bostwick wrote:
> On J
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On Jul 23, 2008, at 10:21 AM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
> At 08:02 AM Wednesday 7/23/2008, Bruce Bostwick wrote:
>
>> On Jul 23, 2008, at 3:04 AM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
>>
>>> At 10:06 PM Tuesday 7/22/2008, Bruce Bostwick wrote:
On Jul 22, 2008, at 9:29 PM, hkhenson wrote:
> I am
At 08:02 AM Wednesday 7/23/2008, Bruce Bostwick wrote:
>On Jul 23, 2008, at 3:04 AM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
>
> > At 10:06 PM Tuesday 7/22/2008, Bruce Bostwick wrote:
> >> On Jul 22, 2008, at 9:29 PM, hkhenson wrote:
> >>
> >>> I am not optimistic that this will be done. If this or some other
>
On 23/07/2008, at 11:21 PM, Julia Thompson wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008, Bruce Bostwick wrote:
>
>> "You wanna tempt the wrath of the whatever from high atop the thing?"
>> -- Toby Ziegler
>
> Why did Toby get all the really good lines?
He didn't get them all. He got a lot, but so did Josh,
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008, Bruce Bostwick wrote:
> "You wanna tempt the wrath of the whatever from high atop the thing?"
> -- Toby Ziegler
Why did Toby get all the really good lines?
Julia
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On Jul 23, 2008, at 3:04 AM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
> At 10:06 PM Tuesday 7/22/2008, Bruce Bostwick wrote:
>> On Jul 22, 2008, at 9:29 PM, hkhenson wrote:
>>
>>> I am not optimistic that this will be done. If this or some other
>>> really huge supply of primary energy is not found, we are goin
> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:04:02 -0500
> To: brin-l@mccmedia.com
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Showing again that the underlying problem is that people must
> renounce greed and selfishness and replace them with cooperation and altruism.
>
>
> . . . ronn! :)
"Great idea. Wrong species."
At 10:06 PM Tuesday 7/22/2008, Bruce Bostwick wrote:
>On Jul 22, 2008, at 9:29 PM, hkhenson wrote:
>
> > I am not optimistic that this will be done. If this or some other
> > really huge supply of primary energy is not found, we are going to be
> > in for some nasty times. The other way the energ
At 10:34 PM Monday 7/21/2008, hkhenson wrote:
>At 12:00 PM 7/21/2008, you wrote:
>
>Keith wrote
> >>If someone in the area can think of another venue to talk about
> >>dollar a gallon gasoline,
I found it interesting that over the weekend I heard a sound bite on
the news from Al Gore where he w
Pretty sure we're headed for a population crash at least that drastic
regardless. it's obvious to me that the earth cannot support 6-7
billion sustainably no matter what we do. And there are certain parts
of the population doing their best to outbreed everyone else just to
skew future dem
At 12:00 PM 7/22/2008, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
>hkhenson wrote:
> >
> > It's not even a particularly risky project. If you have electrical
> > energy to burn, making syngas is easy from coal, even from
> > trash. Sasol knows two ways to turn syngas into oil.
> >
>H... And how much do you thi
hkhenson wrote:
>
> It's not even a particularly risky project. If you have electrical
> energy to burn, making syngas is easy from coal, even from
> trash. Sasol knows two ways to turn syngas into oil.
>
H... And how much do you think _coal_ and _trash_ will cost,
if they can be turned
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