Re: SSN 711

2005-02-06 Thread David Land
Damon Agretto wrote: So it wasn't that he had the bad luck to hit an uncharted undersea mountain in an area that was supposed to be charted. Rather, he was going at a reckless speed in uncharted waters? Probably, or at least that's my interpretation. Really a combination of both, though (bad luck

Re: SSN 711

2005-02-06 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 2/5/2005 12:20:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > So it wasn't that he had the bad luck to hit an uncharted undersea > mountain in an area that was supposed to be charted. Rather, he was > going at a reckless speed in uncharted waters? > No he had charts

Re: SSN 711

2005-02-06 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 2/5/2005 10:14:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > A testament to American naval engineering... > > > >Unfortunately, this captain's career is toast... > > Why is his career toast? Maybe I don't understand what an uncharted > sea mount is. Could he have di

Re: SSN 711

2005-02-05 Thread Damon Agretto
A testament to American naval engineering... The forward end of a sub is a huge tank that houses the ship's sonar arrays. It must've acted like a water bumper, protecting the pressure hull. Perhaps. But also recall this is something that was moving at close to 40mph, weighing 6925t coming to a

Re: SSN 711

2005-02-05 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 09:26:46 -0500, Damon Agretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A testament to American naval engineering... The forward end of a sub is a huge tank that houses the ship's sonar arrays. It must've acted like a water bumper, protecting the pressure hull. Unfortunately, this captain'

Re: SSN 711

2005-02-05 Thread Damon Agretto
So it wasn't that he had the bad luck to hit an uncharted undersea mountain in an area that was supposed to be charted. Rather, he was going at a reckless speed in uncharted waters? Probably, or at least that's my interpretation. Really a combination of both, though (bad luck in that the sea moun

Re: SSN 711

2005-02-05 Thread Erik Reuter
* Damon Agretto ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > The Navy has a tradition or policy that whenever a ship runs aground, > the captain is ultimately responsible for whatever is going on in his > ship and will loose his command. Normally, this is a career killer by > itself (commands are fiercely competi

Re: SSN 711

2005-02-05 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Feb 5, 2005, at 9:02 AM, Damon Agretto wrote: If you want to talk about military equipment absorbing damage and still operating, check out this article: http://tailslide.firelight.dynip.com/f15wing.asp Hm. If I'd been that guy's instructor I might have been tempted to shoot him for that stunt

Re: SSN 711

2005-02-05 Thread Damon Agretto
Why is his career toast? Maybe I don't understand what an uncharted sea mount is. Could he have discerned it even though it was uncharted? Sonar? The Navy has a tradition or policy that whenever a ship runs aground, the captain is ultimately responsible for whatever is going on in his ship and w

Re: SSN 711

2005-02-05 Thread Erik Reuter
* Damon Agretto ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >The USS San Francisco, SSN 711, hit an uncharted sea mount while > >moving at flank speed on the way to Australia from Guam. One > >crewmember died as a result of the accident, he was thrown headlong > >onto a pump, and ther

Re: SSN 711

2005-02-05 Thread Damon Agretto
The USS San Francisco, SSN 711, hit an uncharted sea mount while moving at flank speed on the way to Australia from Guam. One crewmember died as a result of the accident, he was thrown headlong onto a pump, and there were many injuries but the fact that they were able to limp back to Guam on

SSN 711

2005-02-04 Thread Doug Pensinger
Did anyone see this incredible picture? http://www.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=21183 The USS San Francisco, SSN 711, hit an uncharted sea mount while moving at flank speed on the way to Australia from Guam. One crewmember died as a result of the accident, he was thrown headlong onto a pump, and