Re: Strike Zone

2004-10-01 Thread Doug Pensinger
the strike zone vertical size and position. If you got everyone to agree on each player's dimensions, then you are in great shape, with or without the technology. The strike zone is from the knees to the chest. If you measure the distance between the crook of a players knees and his arm pit,

Re: Strike Zone

2004-09-29 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 07:01:59PM -0700, Doug Pensinger wrote: > It would be simple to have a player database with each player's exact > dimensions. It would be simple, IF everyone agreed on the player's dimensions. As I said, the problem is NOT technology, it is agreement on

Re: Strike Zone

2004-09-28 Thread Robert Seeberger
t; stance and pick out notable points like overall height, the elbow >>> and shoulder heights and knee bend height. From these, it could >>> calculate what the strike zone should be to some reasonable >>> approximation. >> >> If so, then there would be some major g

Re: Strike Zone

2004-09-28 Thread Doug Pensinger
heights and knee bend height. From these, it could calculate what the strike zone should be to some reasonable approximation. If so, then there would be some major gaming of the system. It is much easier to fool a machine than a human. It would be simple to have a player database with each pla

Re: Strike Zone

2004-09-28 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 09:38:42PM -0400, Bryon Daly wrote: > My guess is the system uses the side cameras to analyze the batter's > stance and pick out notable points like overall height, the elbow and > shoulder heights and knee bend height. From these, it could calculate >

Re: Strike Zone

2004-09-27 Thread Bryon Daly
t seems there > is still a judgement call about the vertical position and height of the > strike zone. Now, if you also had a prior agreement on the vertical > position and height of the strike zone FOR EACH PLAYER among umpires, > then consistency would be better. But this could be do

Re: Strike Zone

2004-09-27 Thread Bemmzim
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Re: Strike Zone

2004-09-27 Thread Erik Reuter
> Actually, I don't have as much of a problem with one umpire having > a different strike zone from another umpire. As long as he is > consistent. But to vary based on who is batting or who is pitching is > unacceptable. Maybe MLB could use the system Dan is describing to get &

RE: Strike Zone

2004-09-27 Thread Horn, John
o finesse it. That's the nature of sports. That's why we have rules. Actually, I don't have as much of a problem with one umpire having a different strike zone from another umpire. As long as he is consistent. But to vary based on who is batting or who is pitching is unacceptable.

Re: Strike Zone

2004-09-27 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 03:56:03PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote: > I quoted the article earlier: > > "Two cameras sit low and close to the field, just off the first > and third baselines. They determine the batter's strike zone." Which I read before, and which I said was n

Re: Strike Zone

2004-09-27 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 3:25 PM Subject: Re: Strike Zone > On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 03:22:35PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote: > >

Re: Strike Zone

2004-09-27 Thread Erik Reuter
I was usuing technology similar to this 25 years ago to > work with bubble chamber photos. We're not communicating. Tracking the baseball position in space does not seem difficult. The problem I am asking about is where the top and bottom of the strike zone are for each individual player. How doe

Re: Strike Zone

2004-09-27 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 3:00 PM Subject: Re: Strike Zone > On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 02:59:27PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote: > > >

Re: Strike Zone

2004-09-27 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 02:59:27PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote: > A graphical rendering of the pitch and its placement in the strike > zone appears in less than a second. The computer operator notes the > umpire's actual call and compiles all the information on a CD-ROM for

Re: Strike Zone

2004-09-27 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 2:07 PM Subject: Re: Strike Zone > On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 02:11:29PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote: > > &g

Re: Strike Zone

2004-09-27 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 02:11:29PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote: > But, its being used now, to grade umpires at selected parks, including > here in Houston. So, they must have it working at some level. In real time? -- Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/ __

Re: Strike Zone

2004-09-27 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 1:48 PM Subject: Re: Strike Zone > On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 11:09:37AM -0500, Horn, John wrote: > >