Re: The Founders on Separation of Church and State: Washington, Adams, Franklin

2004-06-17 Thread Doug Pensinger
Dan wrote: I'm sure that one can deconstruct it to mean anything, but the word "creator" meant at the time "being who created." I'm not really an origional intent guy, but I think using the same mapping of combination of letters onto ideas as they used at that time is really a good idea. In oth

Re: The Founders on Separation of Church and State: Washington, Adams, Franklin

2004-06-17 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Doug Pensinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 11:39 PM Subject: Re: The Founders on Separation of Church and State: Washington, Adams, Franklin > On T

Re: The Founders on Separation of Church and State: Washington,Adams, Franklin

2004-06-17 Thread JDG
At 11:23 PM 6/17/2004 -0500 Dan Minette wrote: >Yea, and you think that they'd pass some horribly unconstitutional law, >like the Alien and Sedition Act. Which doesn't have nearly the significance of being the very FIRST act of Congress. JDG ___ http:/

Re: The Founders on Separation of Church and State: Washington, Adams, Franklin

2004-06-17 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 21:46:05 -0400, JDG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A pretty selective sampling there, Doug. It's enough to show that the constitution provided a "wall of separation" in the minds at least some of the more prominent founders. It also neglects the fact, that your reading of the Const

Re: The Founders on Separation of Church and State: Washington, Adams, Franklin

2004-06-17 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "JDG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 8:46 PM Subject: Re: The Founders on Separation of Church and State: Washington, Adams,Franklin > A pretty selectiv

Re: The Founders on Separation of Church and State: Washington, Adams,Franklin

2004-06-17 Thread JDG
A pretty selective sampling there, Doug. It also neglects the fact, that your reading of the Constitution would make the Declaration of Independence Unconstitutional. It also neglects the fact that the Founders who participated in the very first Congress chose as their first discretionary act the

The Founders on Separation of Church and State: Washington, Adams, Franklin

2004-06-16 Thread Doug Pensinger
"I am persuaded, you will permit me to observe that the path of true piety is so plain as to require but little political direction. To this consideration we ought to ascribe the absence of any regulation, respecting religion, from the Magna-Charta of our country." George Washington, 1789 "The