Re: What's a legal order?

2004-10-24 Thread Kanandarqu
>Gautam >wanted all of the reservists "hanging from the >yardarm" (he's a Marine, and I think really enjoys >playing to the stereotypes), and the other four all >thought that they should be spending a long, long, >long time in Leavenworth. Four of them did express >concerns over the way that the

Re: What's a legal order?

2004-10-24 Thread John Garcia
On Oct 24, 2004, at 1:34 AM, Damon Agretto wrote: I think it would be better to define what exactly an ILLEGAL order is...and I think the previous poster clarified it. My opinion: given my military background, I think some discipline is in order. But I also think the person(s) issuing the orders

Re: What's a legal order?

2004-10-23 Thread Damon Agretto
I think it would be better to define what exactly an ILLEGAL order is...and I think the previous poster clarified it. My opinion: given my military background, I think some discipline is in order. But I also think the person(s) issuing the orders to the unit should be looked into as well. It so

RE: What's a legal order?

2004-10-23 Thread Ritu
Dan Minette wrote: > If so, lets say a subordinant knows that an order will > endanger a number of troops without achieving a real tactical > or strategic goal, is that order still a legal order? An order is an order, and it is not for the subordinate to second-guess his orders. You cannot run

Re: What's a legal order?

2004-10-23 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Ray Moses" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 11:55 PM Subject: RE: What's a lega

RE: What's a legal order?

2004-10-23 Thread Ray Moses
on of those who actually committed the atrocities. Ray Moses Retired Colonel From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Dan Minette Sent: Sun 10/24/2004 1:48 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: What's a legal order? I have a couple of questions raised

Re: What's a legal order?

2004-10-23 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a couple of questions raised by the 18 > reservests that refused an > order. Damon can answer your specific questions far better than I can. I can tell you, though, that in the past 72 hours I've spoken to four senior officers and one junior of

What's a legal order?

2004-10-23 Thread Dan Minette
I have a couple of questions raised by the 18 reservests that refused an order. 1) Is there any way that an order can be foolhardy enough to not qualify as a legal order? If so, are there criteria? For example, if someone know's the captains orders will endanger the ship, like hard left at full