Re: [Bug-gnubg] Results from the bot shootout

2007-07-05 Thread Achim Mueller
* Øystein Johansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070705 09:23]: Achim Mueller wrote: From GammonU: BGBJellyfish Snowie 4.5 GnuBG 0.14 BGB -534504 481 Jellyfish466- 428 407 Snowie 4.5 496 572 -

Re: [Bug-gnubg] Results from the bot shootout

2007-07-05 Thread Joseph Heled
With gnubg/Jelly we have p = .593 (estimated win percentage) and N = 1000. The 95% confidence interval is [.562,.623], so we can be sure gnubg is better. gnubg/bgb p=.519 and the interval is [.487,.55] so you can't say gnubg is better than any of the others. with p around 52% percent and

Re: [Bug-gnubg] Results from the bot shootout

2007-07-05 Thread Achim Mueller
* Joseph Heled [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070705 11:14]: With gnubg/Jelly we have p = .593 (estimated win percentage) and N = 1000. The 95% confidence interval is [.562,.623], so we can be sure gnubg is better. gnubg/bgb p=.519 and the interval is [.487,.55] so you can't say gnubg is better than

Re: [Bug-gnubg] Results from the bot shootout

2007-07-05 Thread Joseph Heled
Even if gnubg wins a match only 49.5%, in a set of 1000 matches there is more than 5% chance that gnubg wins 519 of them. that what 95% (one sided) confidence interval means. -Joseph On 7/5/07, Achim Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Joseph Heled [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070705 11:14]: With

Re: [Bug-gnubg] Results from the bot shootout

2007-07-05 Thread Achim Mueller
* Joseph Heled [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070705 12:41]: Even if gnubg wins a match only 49.5%, in a set of 1000 matches there is more than 5% chance that gnubg wins 519 of them. that what 95% (one sided) confidence interval means. I guess I got it now. I probably was mislead by an article of Chuck

Re: [Bug-gnubg] Results from the bot shootout

2007-07-05 Thread Joseph Heled
Standard error may be informative, but statistical importance matters more to me. I think it is clear you tell gnubg is better than Jelly from those number, but nothing more. On 7/6/07, Achim Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Joseph Heled [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070705 12:41]: Even if gnubg wins a

[Bug-gnubg] Compilation errors when building gnubg on windows XP

2007-07-05 Thread bar tomas
Hi , I'm trying to build gnubg on windows XP. I'm following the instructions given on the gnubg website on page http://www.gnubg.org/index.php?itemid=50. Installation of mingw and GTK went fine as well as the download of the gnubg source code with the script CheckOutBat.bat Afterwards, I run

Re: [Bug-gnubg] Compilation errors when building gnubg on windows XP

2007-07-05 Thread Christian Anthon
On 7/5/07, bar tomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I deleted the definition of PKGDATADIR in config.h and then tried running the BuildGnubg.bat script again, but it didn't succeed either. I got the following compilation messages: That is right. mingw32-make: *** No rule to make target

Re: [Bug-gnubg] Results from the bot shootout

2007-07-05 Thread Joseph Heled
I am not sure what you try to show here, but if we can't show that gnubg is individually better than bgb or sn, the likelihood it is better than both is still harder to show On 7/6/07, Achim Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Joseph Heled [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070705 14:25]: Standard error may be

Re: [Bug-gnubg] Results from the bot shootout

2007-07-05 Thread Achim Mueller
* Joseph Heled [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070705 14:25]: Standard error may be informative, but statistical importance matters more to me. I think it is clear you tell gnubg is better than Jelly from those number, but nothing more. Well, I wrote a lot of nonsense today (my statistic lessons are 20

Re: [Bug-gnubg] Results from the bot shootout

2007-07-05 Thread Achim Mueller
* Joseph Heled [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070705 23:51]: I am not sure what you try to show here, but if we can't show that gnubg is individually better than bgb or sn, the likelihood it is better than both is still harder to show Then in other words: you talk about the likelihood of _one_ bot being

Re: [Bug-gnubg] Results from the bot shootout

2007-07-05 Thread Joseph Heled
(deriving such a model does not seem trivial, perhaps a simulation would do) On 7/6/07, Joseph Heled [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, one would have to derive the confidence interval given all probabilities and N=1000. perhaps I will do it later (assuming I can figure it out), or maybe someone else

Re: [Bug-gnubg] Results from the bot shootout

2007-07-05 Thread Joseph Heled
Ok, one would have to derive the confidence interval given all probabilities and N=1000. perhaps I will do it later (assuming I can figure it out), or maybe someone else can. On 7/6/07, Achim Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Joseph Heled [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070705 23:51]: I am not sure what

Re: [Bug-gnubg] Compilation errors when building gnubg on windows XP

2007-07-05 Thread bar tomas
Thank you very much for your help. I deleted the word erf from the Makefile.w32 file as you suggested and the compilation no longer generates that error. But another error appears later. This is the output: C:\gnuBuildGnubg.bat Compiling eval.c Compiling export.c Compiling external.c Compiling