Re: the requirement for binutils

1999-08-09 Thread A. P. Garcia
Pavel Roskin: I see no reasons to save users ... who want to compile it from making acquaitance with the new binutils. OKUJI Yoshinori: I see. Your opinion sounds good to me. Yes, he has a good point. OKUJI Yoshinori: the next release [of binutils] will not be released soon, at

Re: the requirement for binutils

1999-08-05 Thread OKUJI Yoshinori
From: Pavel Roskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: the requirement for binutils Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 11:42:03 +0400 (EEST) As long as binutils is free software, and no money hould be paid to upgrade it, I see no reasons to save users (so called power-users, who want to compile it) from making

the requirement for binutils

1999-08-04 Thread OKUJI Yoshinori
I have been thinking about the requirement for binutils. Most people have still been using ``old'' binutils, such as 2.8.1.0.x and 2.9.1. But we have recommened that the users should upgrade their binutils to a beta version. Although later binutils is definitely superior to older one because

Re: the requirement for binutils

1999-08-04 Thread Peter Åstrand
So I want to diminish the requirement as soon as possible. There are at least two possible ways: 1) Support any version of binutils. This means that we must assemble the 16bits code manually like grub-0.5. 2) Don't use gas for the 16bits code any more. Instead, use nasm or

Re: the requirement for binutils

1999-08-04 Thread Peter Åstrand
Nasm is great, but I don't think it's appropiate for GRUB. Could you explain why it is not appropriate for GRUB? Maybe appropiate was the wrong word; I don't have any technical arguments. It's just that I think it's better if we don't have to force people to install learn yet another

Re: the requirement for binutils

1999-08-04 Thread OKUJI Yoshinori
Thanks for your comment. From: Peter Åstrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: the requirement for binutils Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 22:56:02 +0200 (CEST) Nasm is great, but I don't think it's appropiate for GRUB. Could you explain why it is not appropriate for GRUB? become a stable version

Re: the requirement for binutils

1999-08-04 Thread A. P. Garcia
, 1999 at 05:19:40AM +0900, OKUJI Yoshinori wrote: I have been thinking about the requirement for binutils. Most people have still been using ``old'' binutils, such as 2.8.1.0.x and 2.9.1. But we have recommened that the users should upgrade their binutils to a beta version. Although later

Re: the requirement for binutils

1999-08-04 Thread Jeff Sheinberg
OKUJI Yoshinori writes: [snip] Any comment is welcome. Hi, Nasm does Intel style assembler, gas does ATT style. Awhile ago I converted old grub 0.4 stage1 to use nasm (by hand). I personally like nasm, even though only version 0.97 is released under the GPL. HTH, -- Jeff

Re: the requirement for binutils

1999-08-04 Thread OKUJI Yoshinori
From: Peter Åstrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: the requirement for binutils Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 23:31:32 +0200 (CEST) It's just that I think it's better if we don't have to force people to install learn yet another application/tool. I agree, but the user must upgrade/install binutils