Re: Remove GNU Mach's unused device drivers

2006-02-19 Thread Alfred M\. Szmidt
Seperate changes should have seperate headers. This is incorrect. You can say it five times, or fifty times, but it is not correct. It is correct, this has been the rule for all patches to date. ___ Bug-hurd mailing list Bug-hurd@gnu.org

Re: Remove GNU Mach's unused device drivers

2006-02-19 Thread Alfred M\. Szmidt
So, if you are volunteering to fix the driver, great. Please send the network card for the non-working driver to me. But there is no need to keep it around on the random chance that someone may someday fix it. Then we should remove all driver code that one belives is not used anylonger

Re: Remove GNU Mach's unused device drivers

2006-02-19 Thread Marco Gerards
Alfred M\. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Seperate changes should have seperate headers. This is incorrect. You can say it five times, or fifty times, but it is not correct. It is correct, this has been the rule for all patches to date. Can you please show us where this rule

Re: Remove GNU Mach's unused device drivers

2006-02-19 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Alfred M\. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Seperate changes should have seperate headers. This is incorrect. You can say it five times, or fifty times, but it is not correct. It is correct, this has been the rule for all patches to date. No, you are incorrect. You can say it

Re: Remove GNU Mach's unused device drivers

2006-02-19 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Alfred M\. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, if you are volunteering to fix the driver, great. Please send the network card for the non-working driver to me. I don't have one. But there is no need to keep it around on the random chance that someone may someday fix it. Then we

Re: Remove GNU Mach's unused device drivers

2006-02-19 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Marco Gerards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Alfred M\. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Seperate changes should have seperate headers. This is incorrect. You can say it five times, or fifty times, but it is not correct. It is correct, this has been the rule for all patches to date.

Re: Remove GNU Mach's unused device drivers

2006-02-18 Thread Alfred M\. Szmidt
Is there some kind of logic to how you split up the ChangeLog entries? What exactly don't you understand about it? I'm asking if there is logic to the split up, if there isn't, each change should be in a seperate ChangeLog entry. If there is, please explain such logic. How did

Re: Remove GNU Mach's unused device drivers

2006-02-18 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Alfred M\. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm asking if there is logic to the split up, if there isn't, each change should be in a seperate ChangeLog entry. If there is, please explain such logic. This is incorrect. It is perfectly fine to make multiple unrelated changes in one changelog

Re: Remove GNU Mach's unused device drivers

2006-02-18 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Alfred M\. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm not sure what `adopt all users' means. Maybe you mean callees? The conventional phrasing for functions here is to say All callers changed. For something which is a macro is is used but not, strictly speaking, called, perhaps All users changed or

Re: Remove GNU Mach's unused device drivers

2006-02-18 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Alfred M\. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would there be any objections if I'd remove all native device drivers from the gnumach-1-branch that are not used anymore? Care to explain what that would achive? Wouldn't it be better to simply make the native drivers work? We don't have

Re: Remove GNU Mach's unused device drivers

2006-02-18 Thread Alfred M\. Szmidt
Would there be any objections if I'd remove all native device drivers from the gnumach-1-branch that are not used anymore? Care to explain what that would achive? Wouldn't it be better to simply make the native drivers work? We don't have any need to make drivers

Re: Remove GNU Mach's unused device drivers

2006-02-18 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Alfred M\. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would there be any objections if I'd remove all native device drivers from the gnumach-1-branch that are not used anymore? Care to explain what that would achive? Wouldn't it be better to simply make the native drivers

Re: Remove GNU Mach's unused device drivers

2006-02-18 Thread Alfred M\. Szmidt
Seperate changes should have seperate headers. ___ Bug-hurd mailing list Bug-hurd@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd

Re: Remove GNU Mach's unused device drivers

2006-02-18 Thread Alfred M\. Szmidt
If a driver is redundant, then we have no need to care about it. If a driver doesn't work, we should not include it. If a driver doesn't work, then it should be fixed. ___ Bug-hurd mailing list Bug-hurd@gnu.org

Re: Remove GNU Mach's unused device drivers

2006-02-18 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Alfred M\. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Seperate changes should have seperate headers. This is incorrect. You can say it five times, or fifty times, but it is not correct. Thomas ___ Bug-hurd mailing list Bug-hurd@gnu.org

Re: Remove GNU Mach's unused device drivers

2006-02-18 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Alfred M\. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If a driver is redundant, then we have no need to care about it. If a driver doesn't work, we should not include it. If a driver doesn't work, then it should be fixed. It is appalling that you should so conveniently trim my words for me. What

Re: Remove GNU Mach's unused device drivers

2006-02-18 Thread Barry deFreese
- Original Message - From: Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: bug-hurd@gnu.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 7:47 PM Subject: Re: Remove GNU Mach's unused device drivers Alfred M\. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If a driver

Re: Remove GNU Mach's unused device drivers

2006-02-15 Thread Thomas Schwinge
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 11:15:32PM +0100, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: Is there some kind of logic to how you split up the ChangeLog entries? What exactly don't you understand about it? How did you check that the files are ok to remove (it is a long list, so it is hard to check each file)? I

Re: Remove GNU Mach's unused device drivers

2006-02-15 Thread Thomas Schwinge
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 07:27:02PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: Thomas Schwinge, le Mon 13 Feb 2006 12:48:16 -0500, a ?crit : 2006-02-13 Thomas Schwinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] * i386/util/gdt.h: Likewise. * i386/util/gdt_sels.h: Likewise. * i386/util/ldt.h: Likewise.

Re: Remove GNU Mach's unused device drivers

2006-02-15 Thread Gianluca Guida
Hi, On 2/15/06, Thomas Schwinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can however deduce the need for a file in the top-level directory containing something like ``If you want to work on the Mach kernel's core or system dependent parts or ..., be sure to reset your CVS checkout to the revision

Re: Remove GNU Mach's unused device drivers

2006-02-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hi, Thomas Schwinge, le Mon 13 Feb 2006 12:48:16 -0500, a écrit : On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 07:39:41AM -0500, I wrote: On Sun, Feb 05, 2006 at 03:06:10AM +0100, Gianluca Guida wrote: On 2/4/06, Thomas Schwinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would there be any objections if I'd remove all native

Re: Remove GNU Mach's unused device drivers

2006-02-13 Thread Thomas Schwinge
On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 07:39:41AM -0500, I wrote: On Sun, Feb 05, 2006 at 03:06:10AM +0100, Gianluca Guida wrote: On 2/4/06, Thomas Schwinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would there be any objections if I'd remove all native device drivers from the gnumach-1-branch that are not used anymore?

Re: Remove GNU Mach's unused device drivers

2006-02-13 Thread Alfred M\. Szmidt
Is there some kind of logic to how you split up the ChangeLog entries? How did you check that the files are ok to remove (it is a long list, so it is hard to check each file)? i386/utils/debug.h looks a suspicious for example. I'm not sure what `adopt all users' means. Maybe you mean callees?

Re: Remove GNU Mach's unused device drivers

2006-02-10 Thread Gianluca Guida
Hello, On 2/8/06, Thomas Schwinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wouldn't it be better to simply make the native drivers work? Are you interested in reviving and maintaining e.g. NIC device drivers that got crudely fit into Mach more than fifteen years ago, based on _really_ old versions on

Re: Remove GNU Mach's unused device drivers

2006-02-08 Thread Thomas Schwinge
[Back to the mailing list.] On Sun, Feb 05, 2006 at 03:06:10AM +0100, Gianluca Guida wrote: On 2/4/06, Thomas Schwinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would there be any objections if I'd remove all native device drivers from the gnumach-1-branch that are not used anymore? If you mean those in

Re: Remove GNU Mach's unused device drivers

2006-02-08 Thread Alfred M\. Szmidt
If you make a tag before and after the removal then go for it. ___ Bug-hurd mailing list Bug-hurd@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd

Re: Remove GNU Mach's unused device drivers

2006-02-08 Thread Thomas Schwinge
On Sun, Feb 05, 2006 at 11:01:57AM +0100, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: Would there be any objections if I'd remove all native device drivers from the gnumach-1-branch that are not used anymore? Care to explain what that would achive? Removing obsolete, unused files from GNU Mach's code