Re: Accidental and clef change issue

2011-01-06 Thread Shane Brandes
I think the rule is thus. Clefs shall have no effect on accidentals and therefore notes after the clef change are altered by courtesy accidentals for ease of legibility or where the note occurs in a different octave which requires, in strict notation, its own accidental. On the reasoning that

Re: Accidental and clef change issue

2011-01-05 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Dienstag, 28. Dezember 2010, um 15:44:22 schrieb Reinhold Kainhofer: Am Dienstag, 28. Dezember 2010, um 15:14:05 schrieb David Kastrup: Reinhold Kainhofer reinh...@kainhofer.com writes: I would be great, though, if anyone can find a published example of such a situation (most likely in

Re: Accidental and clef change issue

2011-01-04 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 4 January 2011 00:35, James Bailey james.lilyp...@googlemail.com wrote: It seems, at least according to section 1.1.3 on accidentals, that this is intended behavior: default This is the default typesetting behavior. It corresponds to eighteenth-century common practice: accidentals are

Re: Accidental and clef change issue

2011-01-03 Thread James Bailey
On Dec 28, 2010, at 11:53 AM, Xavier Scheuer wrote: Hi! This has been reported on the French user mailing list. In the following code the c-natural is not printed if there is a clef change in the middle of the measure. \relative c' { \clef bass cis2 c \clef tenor cis2 \clef bass c

Accidental and clef change issue

2010-12-28 Thread Xavier Scheuer
Hi! This has been reported on the French user mailing list. In the following code the c-natural is not printed if there is a clef change in the middle of the measure. \relative c' { \clef bass cis2 c \clef tenor cis2 \clef bass c % natural is not printed!! \clef bass cis2 \clef tenor c }

Re: Accidental and clef change issue

2010-12-28 Thread Phil Holmes
Hello, - Original Message - From: Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com To: bug-lilypond bug-lilypond@gnu.org; lilypond-user lilypond-u...@gnu.org Cc: Philhar philhar1...@orange.fr Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 10:53 AM Subject: Accidental and clef change issue Hi! This has been

Re: Accidental and clef change issue

2010-12-28 Thread David Kastrup
Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes: \relative c' { \clef bass cis2 c \clef tenor cis2 \clef bass c % natural is not printed!! \clef bass cis2 \clef tenor c } Could you _please_ _never_ write an answer or comment in the _signature_ of the original posting? Sensible mailreaders

Re: Accidental and clef change issue

2010-12-28 Thread Phil Holmes
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote in message news:87ei92oxo3@lola.goethe.zz... Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes: \relative c' { \clef bass cis2 c \clef tenor cis2 \clef bass c % natural is not printed!! \clef bass cis2 \clef tenor c } Could you _please_ _never_ write an answer

Re: Accidental and clef change issue

2010-12-28 Thread David Kastrup
Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote in message news:87ei92oxo3@lola.goethe.zz... Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes: \relative c' { \clef bass cis2 c \clef tenor cis2 \clef bass c % natural is not printed!! \clef bass cis2 \clef tenor c }

Re: Accidental and clef change issue

2010-12-28 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Dienstag, 28. Dezember 2010, um 14:23:14 schrieb Phil Holmes: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote in message I don't think it is correct. If you set the above with \key g\major, you will notice that the key signature is _not_ repeated with a clef change. So there is no visual or logical

Re: Accidental and clef change issue

2010-12-28 Thread David Kastrup
Reinhold Kainhofer reinh...@kainhofer.com writes: Am Dienstag, 28. Dezember 2010, um 14:23:14 schrieb Phil Holmes: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote in message I don't think it is correct. If you set the above with \key g\major, you will notice that the key signature is _not_ repeated with

Re: Accidental and clef change issue

2010-12-28 Thread Phil Holmes
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote in message news:87aajqowbn@lola.goethe.zz... Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote in message news:87ei92oxo3@lola.goethe.zz... Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes: \relative c' { \clef bass cis2 c \clef tenor

Re: Accidental and clef change issue

2010-12-28 Thread David Kastrup
Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote in message news:87aajqowbn@lola.goethe.zz... Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes: Apologies. As you're probably aware, I'm a Windows man, and some postings don't quote properly using my mailreader. I am sure

Re: Accidental and clef change issue

2010-12-28 Thread James Bailey
-user lilypond-u...@gnu.org Cc: Philhar philhar1...@orange.fr Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 10:53 AM Subject: Accidental and clef change issue Hi! This has been reported on the French user mailing list. In the following code the c-natural is not printed if there is a clef change

Re: Accidental and clef change issue

2010-12-28 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Dienstag, 28. Dezember 2010, um 15:14:05 schrieb David Kastrup: Reinhold Kainhofer reinh...@kainhofer.com writes: I would be great, though, if anyone can find a published example of such a situation (most likely in e.g. cello/bassoon parts/scores, which frequently switch between bass and

Re: Accidental and clef change issue

2010-12-28 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Michael Ellis michael.f.el...@gmail.com wrote: The Dover Edition of the Beethoven Sonatas, a reproduction of the 1923 Universal Edition (H. Schenker, ed.) has the attached in opus 27, no 2, second movement (Presto Agitato) mm 54,55. In the left hand of mm 54,