2006 02:47 a.m.
Para: cake-php@googlegroups.com
Asunto: Re: Legal Concerns Regarding CakePHP and Cake Software Foundation
Actually the license is not at issue here. The licenses on most FOSS
software normally only cover issues regarding ownership and
distriibution of the code, works derived from
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Asunto: Re: Legal Concerns Regarding CakePHP and Cake Software Foundation
Actually the license is not at issue here. The licenses on most FOSS
software normally only cover issues regarding ownership and
distriibution of the code, works derived from the code, and
modifications
On 12/18/06, Mariano Iglesias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok but my point is now more related to the fact that CakePHP founding
elements are property of the public domain and knowledge.
I agree with you completely on this. But then again I point you to the
Eolas and PanIP case. Especially the
Concerns Regarding CakePHP and Cake Software Foundation
The argument in this thread seems to suggest that if i hold a patent then i
can go and accuse anyone i like of infringing it and force them to provide
proof that they aren't... as we all know proving a negative can be a
somewhat tricky
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Enviado el: Lunes, 18 de Diciembre de 2006 10:43 a.m.
Para: cake-php@googlegroups.com
Asunto: Re: Legal Concerns Regarding CakePHP and Cake Software Foundation
I don't want you or anyone else watching this thread to take
On 12/18/06, Trevor Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
where does the burden of proof lie in a US patent case?
The proof is already in the hands of the party with the patent grant.
A patent grants them exlusive rights to the invention, in a way they
own the idea/knowledge for the invention.
On 12/18/06, Mariano Iglesias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok I get your point: for any rule that's out there, there's a way to break
it. I can only imagine the unusual stuff that can be patented (I worked in a
company that patented a business concept in the US that was just about
putting stuff
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de Nimrod A. Abing
Enviado el: Lunes, 18 de Diciembre de 2006 11:07 a.m.
Para: cake-php@googlegroups.com
Asunto: Re: Legal Concerns Regarding CakePHP and Cake Software Foundation
As I have said in an earlier post, gwoo has already
How are the big players involved in CakePHP?
It is not that they are involved or not, but more like the side effect that
a legal litigation against CakePHP would have. Those big players would be
interested in a positive ruling towards CakePHP because otherwise it would
sit a legal precedence
Nimrod A. Abing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...]
Likewise for me. It is my employer who is having second thoughts about
CakePHP. I even intend to use it to replace my aging custom MVC
framework. I even work on modifications for CakePHP that makes it
easier for me to do migration. I am training
Don't forget you are at just as great a risk of litigation with the
code you write directly for them. If you are in the US, the only way
your employer can get a warm and fluffy feeling is to retain the
services of a lawyer - . I doubt there is a single line of useful code
out there that isn't
On 12/18/06, Mariano Iglesias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
*Ouch* :)
I think that as long as the discussion does not fall out of the original
intention of the thread, then it is good for the community. Just as you had
these questions, and some other questions arouse from the original thread,
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Subject: Re: Legal Concerns Regarding CakePHP and Cake Software Foundation
Don't forget you are at just as great a risk of litigation with the
code you write directly for them. If you are in the US, the only way
On 12/19/06, Adrian Godong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Prof. Lessig has one of those great presentations about copyright vs.
Innovation. Try googling it up. I need to dig in several gigs of data to
find the link. :D
I think this is what you mean:
Not quite exactly, it's this one: http://lessig.org/freeculture/ (open the
flash presentation)
But he talks quite a lot about free culture, so Nimrod's link is valid as
well.
(spoiler: it's interesting to see how Disney can become such a large
company)
On 12/19/06, Nimrod A. Abing [EMAIL
Hey Nimrod,
Well I think most of your concerns are related to patent trolls. I doubt
the Cake foundation will be able to defend it's users from those, but I
also doubt that they'll sue small companies where no big money is to be
made. An excellent read on this topic is Paul Grahams: Are
Jeez, those are some very insightful questions. A little too legal for my
taste, but coming from a country that prepares you to get screwed, I
understand where you come from with these concerns.
-MI
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On 12/18/06, Felix Geisendörfer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well I think most of your concerns are related to patent trolls. I doubt
the Cake foundation will be able to defend it's users from those, but I also
doubt that they'll sue small companies where no big money is to be made. An
excellent
On 12/18/06, Mariano Iglesias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jeez, those are some very insightful questions. A little too legal for my
taste, but coming from a country that prepares you to get screwed, I
understand where you come from with these concerns.
I am not that much worried about legal
Unless a patent already exists for the processes inside of CakePHP,
then there will not be a problem going forward. Once the technology is
out in the open you cannot go back and patent it.
The code itself has all been written by CakePHP team members who have
assigned their rights to the
Hello,
First of all thank you for taking the time to read my lengthy emails.
On 12/18/06, gwoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unless a patent already exists for the processes inside of CakePHP,
then there will not be a problem going forward. Once the technology is
out in the open you cannot go
nombre
de Nimrod A. Abing
Enviado el: Lunes, 18 de Diciembre de 2006 02:13 a.m.
Para: cake-php@googlegroups.com
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: Re: Legal Concerns Regarding CakePHP and Cake Software Foundation
Another thing with patents that have prior art, if it gets granted and
is used by its owner(s
On 12/18/06, Mariano Iglesias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't understand something. If licenses such as MIT, GPL or something are
not protecting you against this kind of attackes, what in the name are the
other open source projects doing towards this? It is hard for me to believe
that all
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