Re: Why doesn't Find* return a group of model objects?

2008-01-04 Thread gwoo
Speed, simplicity, clarity. We feel that a model object in the view will only result in misuse. We have helpers that allow you to handle the arrays any way you need, as well as various callbacks to allow you to format the data that comes back from the model. The benefits to having a model object

Why doesn't Find* return a group of model objects?

2008-01-04 Thread Deane
My firm is new to CakePHP, and we're struggling with a piece of Cake Theory. Perhaps you can help -- When you do a Find or a FindAll, why do you get back a big, nested array? When I do Widget-FindAll() why do I not get back an array of Widget objects? Isn't that what a model is for? We want

Re: Why doesn't Find* return a group of model objects?

2008-01-04 Thread gwoo
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Re: Why doesn't Find* return a group of model objects?

2008-01-04 Thread Deane
Thanks for the reply. We couldn't disagree more strenuously, and we think you're wrong beyond belief in your reasoning, but we appreciate the response. Deane On Jan 4, 10:17 am, gwoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speed, simplicity, clarity. We feel that a model object in the view will only

Re: Why doesn't Find* return a group of model objects?

2008-01-04 Thread nate
Your opinion is wrong. - Nate Abele, 2007 On Jan 4, 12:11 pm, Deane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the reply.  We couldn't disagree more strenuously, and we think you're wrong beyond belief in your reasoning, but we appreciate the response. Deane On Jan 4, 10:17 am, gwoo [EMAIL

Re: Why doesn't Find* return a group of model objects?

2008-01-04 Thread rtconner
One time gwoo wrote some quick code that would make find return objects instead of arrays. I turned it into a behavior. Seemed to work pretty well at the time. It should still work (not sure though, because of all the recent changes to cake core). Give it a try.

Re: Why doesn't Find* return a group of model objects?

2008-01-04 Thread nate
Oh, and Deane, I forgot to ask: is that the royal we or the managerial we? On Jan 4, 12:11 pm, Deane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the reply.  We couldn't disagree more strenuously, and we think you're wrong beyond belief in your reasoning, but we appreciate the response. Deane On

Re: Why doesn't Find* return a group of model objects?

2008-01-04 Thread b logica
On Jan 4, 2008 4:28 PM, nate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, and Deane, I forgot to ask: is that the royal we or the managerial we? On Jan 4, 12:11pm, Deane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the reply. We couldn't disagree more strenuously, and we think you're wrong beyond belief in your

Re: Why doesn't Find* return a group of model objects?

2008-01-04 Thread Robby Anderson
I'd also add this: while its not strictly OO behavior, I like the fact that Model searches return pure data, and not other models/objects. It helps reinforce the viewpoint of having the view incapable of performing any meaningful business logic. If model returned other models and those were

Re: Why doesn't Find* return a group of model objects?

2008-01-04 Thread Adam Royle
I can't wait until Christian (Jippy) does his soap opera dissection of this thread in next weeks' CakePHP weekly summaries :) On Jan 5, 1:05 pm, Deane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gwoo: Let me retract my remarks. I was frustrated, and what I wrote was insulting. You have my apologies. Deane