Re: [Callers] "booker" fee for tour planning

2017-02-13 Thread Jeff Kaufman via Callers
I've never asked for a booking fee, or played a tour organized by someone who wanted one, but it definitely is a lot of work and if someone wanted to organize a tour for me I wouldn't mind them taking some money! On Feb 13, 2017 6:17 PM, "Woody Lane via Callers" < callers@lists.sharedweight.net> w

Re: [Callers] Role term survey responses

2017-02-13 Thread Woody Lane via Callers
I basically agree with Neal. I would not want to replace gents and ladies with other arbitrary terms. For many of the same reasons. Woody -- Woody Lane Caller, Percussive Dancer Roseburg, Oregon http://www.woodylanecaller.com home: 541-440-1926 cell: 541-556-0054 ---

Re: [Callers] "booker" fee for tour planning

2017-02-13 Thread Woody Lane via Callers
Hi Donna, I've booked quite a few tours with a number of bands, and I've never charged a booking fee for the extra work. Like Jack said, as a caller I am getting some things I really enjoy -- working with the same band every night, getting to the venues I prefer, having some meaningful contro

Re: [Callers] Role term survey responses

2017-02-13 Thread Neal Schlein via Callers
I do not want to replace gent and lady as terms, based on my own experience. Some context: I've been dancing for between 29 and 37 years, depending on how you count--my parents met at a square dance and I grew up dancing. I started calling about 18 years ago, and dance/call ECD, Scottish, squares

Re: [Callers] "booker" fee for tour planning

2017-02-13 Thread Jack Mitchell via Callers
I have also booked quite a few tours, and have also generally not taken a "booking fee" outside of what I was getting paid to call the dances. In a couple of cases, I was booking the tours with a particular $ figure in mind for us to average out per night. The most satisfactory arrangements have

Re: [Callers] "booker" fee for tour planning

2017-02-13 Thread Bob Green via Callers
Hi Donna, I have now booked 4 tours. Three of them have been completed and one is scheduled for next June/July. It is an enormous amount of work...but then so is learning to play an instrument well enough to be going on tour, ;-) In my case, I was traveling with my wife, who was also one of the

[Callers] "booker" fee for tour planning

2017-02-13 Thread Donna Hunt via Callers
Hi Just wondering aloud since this is not something I've ever seen discussed here. Do you (or a musician you're traveling with) take a "booker fee" for planning a tour, or even a single community dance when there is a lot of planning with the event host and time spent booking musicians? How mu

Re: [Callers] Role term survey responses

2017-02-13 Thread David A Kaynor via Callers
I’ve yet to personally encounter a request for terminology usage with which I can’t comfortably work. If an organizer(s) wants me to use “jets” and “rubies”, I’ll do it. Absent such a request, I usually state that my own use of the terms “gent” and “lady” has to do with choreography, not bio

Re: [Callers] Role term survey responses

2017-02-13 Thread Read Weaver via Callers
I occasionally teach but don’t call, so I don’t have cards—there are GF ECD callers on the list who may have more to add. First, a lot of ECDs are written without any reference to gender anyway—the dances often just work like that. An example of a conversion: Fried de Metz Herman’s The Archbish

Re: [Callers] Role term survey responses

2017-02-13 Thread John W Gintell via Callers
> On Feb 13, 2017, at 10:30 AM, Aahz via Callers > wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 13, 2017, Read Weaver via Callers wrote: >> >> As far as I know, all of the ongoing gender-free English country >> dances use a different system, "global terminology." It's based on >> current position rather than role,

Re: [Callers] Role term survey responses

2017-02-13 Thread Aahz via Callers
On Mon, Feb 13, 2017, Read Weaver via Callers wrote: > > As far as I know, all of the ongoing gender-free English country > dances use a different system, "global terminology." It's based on > current position rather than role, and so doesn't have to use a > substitute for gents/ladies. There are a

Re: [Callers] Role term survey responses

2017-02-13 Thread Jeff Kaufman via Callers
I danced email ECD to Jets/Rubies once, I belive at YDW 2014. On Feb 13, 2017 1:38 AM, "Read Weaver via Callers" < callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > As far as I know, all of the ongoing gender-free English country dances > use a different system, “global terminology.” It’s based on current